Gavin Bazunu

[Fabrice29]

16 minutes ago, whelk said:

Ed Sheeran laughs when innocents get killed

You seem to genuinely be annoyed about Bazunu saying something perfectly normal and obvious 😂

[whelk]

9 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

You seem to genuinely be annoyed about Bazunu saying something perfectly normal and obvious 😂

No just mocking the saps who are impressed with his statement. Plays to the sixth form student types who need a very simple ‘baddie’. Maybe he could have said war is stupid, and why can’t there be love peace and harmony across the world?

[Fabrice29]

9 minutes ago, whelk said:

No just mocking the saps who are impressed with his statement. Plays to the sixth form student types who need a very simple ‘baddie’. Maybe he could have said war is stupid, and why can’t there be love peace and harmony across the world?

I think you mean ‘Yes’

[Tom & Gerry]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

You think he actually wrote that statement?  “My decision is based purely upon my personal belief that the killing of innocent people is wrong” - what a guy doesn’t believe in the killing of innocent people - imagine having that personal belief?

Anyway sure he will get amazing gratitude on his social media and people love someone who is brave enough to take an unpopular stance of not wanting innocent people killed. 

Seems to be an increasingly unpopular stance, unfortunately. 

[Bobsmith]

Looks like Bazunu is going it alone. Putting politics above football will do nothing for his career. He might be able to get away with it as a world beater but at best he's a league 1 level keeper

https://news.sky.com/story/ireland-confirms-nations-league-game-against-israel-will-go-ahead-13592048

[CB Fry]

I've heard it's a subject he is truly passionate about and he just simply won't drop it.

[Dr Who?]

Up to him. Fair play. If you feel passionate about anything you should always stand up even if you are on your own. 

[Bobsmith]

3 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

Up to him. Fair play. If you feel passionate about anything you should always stand up even if you are on your own. 

I agree, but it’s also important to pick your battles. More people probably know his name because of this, but future clubs may also wonder whether he’s likely to take political stances that could create issues.

Squad harmony has to be considered too. It would have created a pretty poor dynamic at our club if Bazunu were still here and refused to play against Peretz as Israel’s number one.

[Oldandtired]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Oldandtired
As usual I was talking bollocks

[Fabrice29]

5 minutes ago, Bobsmith said:

I agree, but it’s also important to pick your battles. More people probably know his name because of this, but future clubs may also wonder whether he’s likely to take political stances that could create issues.

Squad harmony has to be considered too. It would have created a pretty poor dynamic at our club if Bazunu were still here and refused to play against Peretz as Israel’s number one.

Have an opinion but don’t fuck anything up at Saints and remember you’re a league one keeper so probably better to keep your opinion to yourself is an incredible position to take.

[sadoldgit]

If more people had the courage of their convictions and stood up for them perhaps Trump would no longer be in office. Too many people duck below the parapet and hope it will all go away. The more people who come out in support the better. South Africa were hammered from all quarters. Netanyahu’s Israel should face the same level of international shaming. 

[Bobsmith]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Have an opinion but don’t fuck anything up at Saints and remember you’re a league one keeper so probably better to keep your opinion to yourself is an incredible position to take.

I love a strawman, but in reality actions have consequences. Refusing to play for your country for political reasons may be admirable, but it might also affect your selection in future. The ability point is simply about how indispensable you are. If you’re a world beater, you probably get more wiggle room on things like this. That’s not me saying weaker players should keep their opinions to themselves, just acknowledging that the more valuable you are, the more latitude you tend to get in professional sport.

 

[whelk]

All those marvelling at Baz’s stance presumably get quite excitable about Afghanistan having a cricket team and all those weak cricketers who agree to play them. No, thought not. Maybe someone could put a statement about saying their personal belief is that girls should have an education and homosexuality isn’t a crime to be punishable by death

[Weston Super Saint]

48 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I've heard it's a subject he is truly passionate about and he just simply won't drop it.

If only he had such passion about football.

[Greenridge]

18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

If more people had the courage of their convictions and stood up for them perhaps Trump would no longer be in office. Too many people duck below the parapet and hope it will all go away. The more people who come out in support the better. South Africa were hammered from all quarters. Netanyahu’s Israel should face the same level of international shaming. 

You realise he was voted in, yes? He didn’t get to be President via some kind of coup. 

Edited 36 minutes ago by Greenridge

[Fabrice29]

20 minutes ago, Bobsmith said:

I love a strawman, but in reality actions have consequences. Refusing to play for your country for political reasons may be admirable, but it might also affect your selection in future. The ability point is simply about how indispensable you are. If you’re a world beater, you probably get more wiggle room on things like this. That’s not me saying weaker players should keep their opinions to themselves, just acknowledging that the more valuable you are, the more latitude you tend to get in professional sport.

 

I know what you’re saying but you’d like to think the people above him would support him having an opinion rather than punish him for it. But given it appears the goalkeepers as a whole seem to have been forgotten about on this topic, you could well be right, which as I said, is incredible really.

14 minutes ago, whelk said:

All those marvelling at Baz’s stance presumably get quite excitable about Afghanistan having a cricket team and all those weak cricketers who agree to play them. No, thought not. Maybe someone could put a statement about saying their personal belief is that girls should have an education and homosexuality isn’t a crime to be punishable by death

You’re so weirdly put out by this. I’m not entirely sure what your point is here though? Must be quite a nuanced yet enormous leap to get from Bazunu making a personal decision to anyone patting him on the back needing to take down the Afghan cricket team. 

Edited 29 minutes ago by Fabrice29

[Lord Duckhunter]

Fucking hell the Paddies taking the moral high ground, a country whose Taoiseach  visited the German foreign minister in Dublin to offer official condolences following Hitler's suicide. Fuck me, Churchill even offered them a united ireland for the use of their ports, and they turned him down. We all know which side they took when Jews were being murdered in their millions, so it’s no surprise they’re turning on innocent Jewish footballers now….

[hypochondriac]

That is true bravery 

[Fabrice29]

6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

That is true bravery 

‘True’ bravery. Another incredible position to take. This place gets weirder by the day.