Pancake Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 His last "blog" post was January 15th, before the changes: http://www.jasoneuell.com/blog/22566.Southampton%20are%20forcing%20me%20out Sounded like he wasn't happy at all being left out, so this new management structure would seen, on paper, to be a good way of him getting back in the team that Wotte wants the "senior pros" to lead... But, there is no mention of him in Wottes chat with the Senior players. Kelvin, Perry et al are mentioned, but no Euell: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11273 Also, he didn't get a look in at the Ujpest game we may or may not have played: 1st half: Forecast, Hatch, Saeijs, Perry, Molyneux, James, Smith, Gillet, McGoldrick, Lallana, Holmes 2nd half: Forecast, Imudia, Wotton, Lancashire, Mills, Schneiderlin, Boyle, Pulis, B. Wright-Philips, Sasanowski, Gasmi He's not injured: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6973 Or suspended: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6982 So where has a player gone that many fans believe could and should be a pivotal player during the run-in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I've seen him in my office block. He works for company that shares a building with us! If I see him again I'll take a photo to prove it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I've seen him in my office block. He works for company that shares a building with us! If I see him again I'll take a photo to prove it!! I thought he was a footballer? edit: do we pay him on a pro-rata basis if part of his time during the working week is spent on 'other business interests' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I thought he was a footballer? So did I, obviously though he has decided to cut and run and earn some money some other way. Seriously though, this guy is the double of the Mule!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-ross Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I thought he was a footballer? edit: do we pay him on a pro-rata basis if part of his time during the working week is spent on 'other business interests' ? Obviously havn't been to many games this season! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 His last "blog" post was January 15th, before the changes: http://www.jasoneuell.com/blog/22566.Southampton%20are%20forcing%20me%20out Sounded like he wasn't happy at all being left out, so this new management structure would seen, on paper, to be a good way of him getting back in the team that Wotte wants the "senior pros" to lead... But, there is no mention of him in Wottes chat with the Senior players. Kelvin, Perry et al are mentioned, but no Euell: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11273 Also, he didn't get a look in at the Ujpest game we may or may not have played: He's not injured: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6973 Or suspended: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6982 So where has a player gone that many fans believe could and should be a pivotal player during the run-in? You're not the first one to ask that question Pancake, Does anyone have RELIABLE information instead of stupid wisecracks ? After all he is one of our highest paid players (according to prev. thread here) quote after AGM. in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Does anyone have RELIABLE information instead of stupid wisecracks ? I'm sorry Dave, I cannot do that!! Chill dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11271 He is mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 stupid wisecracks..not on this forum and especially not from me..God forbid. Although it does help the world go round and pass the day whilst I await JEs return phone call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 To quote Pancake: So where has a player gone that many fans believe could and should be a pivotal player during the run-in? The answer to that one is: If he is pivotal to our chances we really are well and truly stuffed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 stupid wisecracks..not on this forum and especially not from me..God forbid. Although it does help the world go round and pass the day whilst I await JEs return phone call. Perhaps he is counting his money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Perhaps he is counting his money The money JE has earnt in his career, leads me to believe, he is the owner of Barclays Bank or that lovely Island called Jersey, where we will play all our home games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 A good manager would get the best out of a player like Euell, our club is a complete joke. Freezing a play out to try and force him to leave is bad enough, doing it when you are 2nd bottom and playing complete ****e is too dumb for words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Banana Factor Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/01/17/pfa-called-in-over-jason-euell-s-dispute-with-southampton-115875-21048077/ Just found this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 A good manager would get the best out of a player like Euell, our club is a complete joke. Freezing a play out to try and force him to leave is bad enough, doing it when you are 2nd bottom and playing complete ****e is too dumb for words. Seconded ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Do Colorado Rapids have a football team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/01/17/pfa-called-in-over-jason-euell-s-dispute-with-southampton-115875-21048077/ Just found this. Oo-er....how come we missed this one (apart from there being no mention of it on the OS of course) ?! PFA called in over Jason Euell's dispute with Southampton Jason Euell has called in the PFA for help after a huge row with Southampton executive chairman Rupert Lowe. The midfielder, 31, made the move after weeks of talks about having his contract paid up came to nothing. MLS side Colorado Rapids want to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Do Colorado Rapids have a football team? http://www.coloradorapids.com/ Rapids Make Two Additions to Technical Staff COMMERCE CITY, COLO. (Monday, January 26, 2009) - Colorado Rapids head coach Gary Smith announced today two additions to his technical staff as Steve Guppy joins the club as assistant coach and David Kramer returns as goalkeeper coach. Assistant coach Steve Guppy comes to Colorado after serving as a player/assistant coach for the Rochester Rhinos during the 2008 season. Guppy holds over 15 years of professional experience in the highest levels of competitive soccer in Europe and North America. A native of Winchester, England, Guppy's career includes stints with Southampton (1989), Wycombe Wanderers (1989-94, 2004-05), Newcastle United (1994), Port Vale (1994-97), Leicester City (1997-2000), and Celtic F.C. (2001-04). Guppy made his MLS debut with a five-game stint with D.C. United during the 2005 season. He then returned to the English leagues in 2006-07 with Stevenage Borough F.C. Recently, Guppy spent three months training with Aston Villa, as he prepared for the 2008 USL-1 season. A crowning moment in his storied playing career was when Guppy earned a national team cap, playing the entire match for England on October 10, 1999 in a 2-1 victory against Belgium. Kramer first joined the Rapids’ technical staff as goalkeeper coach in June 2008. Most recently, the USSF “A” license holder served as the director of coaching for the Colorado Edge Soccer Club. Throughout his eight-year MLS career with Los Angeles, San Jose, and Colorado, he posted a 1.76 goals against average with 15 shutouts in 106 matches with 98 starts. Kramer appeared in 42 games for the Rapids from 2000-2002, including eight playoff matches. His professional career began with the Monterey Bay Jaguars in 1995, when he helped his team to the USISL Western Division championship. Kramer also played with the Colorado Foxes of the A-League in 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Steve Guppy our own local boy who went onto great things elsewhere but Saints> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 The money JE has earnt in his career, leads me to believe, he is the owner of Barclays Bank or that lovely Island called Jersey, where we will play all our home games next season. I thought he was working on a bid for Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-ross Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 JE "I’m still good enough and young enough to be playing regularly in either the Championship or the Premiership" I'm sorry, but this man is deluded! "I was absolutely horrified to find my contract details printed in the local press last week" - yeah, horrified that the truth is out and you're robbing the club. Correct me if im wrong, but i havnt seen anything of an official transfer request. that's what i'd be doing in his shoes. Truth is he knows he on to too much of a good thing. He's dead wood as far as im concerned, the sooner he's of the wage bill the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Oo-er....how come we missed this one (apart from there being no mention of it on the OS of course) ?! PFA called in over Jason Euell's dispute with Southampton Jason Euell has called in the PFA for help after a huge row with Southampton executive chairman Rupert Lowe. The midfielder, 31, made the move after weeks of talks about having his contract paid up came to nothing. MLS side Colorado Rapids want to sign him. I wonder if they're stalling over paying his 'loyalty' bonus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11271 He is mentioned here. Yes I saw that that, but he said, he'd spoken to " the gang of four," and then...went on... " I also spoke to Wayne Thomas and Jason Euell " Now I know that Thomas is a long term injury case, so I don't expect him to be at training or even for treatment EVERY DAY, BUT Euell isn't, neither is he suspended.....so why wasn't he around with the others who presumably meet and train together every day ???? I'm afraid I might turn this into a conspiracy case but .....what can we think? If he's in the line-up tonight ---I'll shut up about it in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Not read that blog before... pretty damning of Lowe's policies towards the senior players IMHO. Sums it up nicely by saying football is a 'business not a sport' at this Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Its certainly looks like Euell has been frozen out of the squad, and I would guess it was due to his "row" with "Lowe" (I don't for one minute think it was a row, more a stalled negotiation; and I don't believe it would have been with Lowe alone, more likely Lowe & Wilde plus Jan/Mark and Jones). And it also looks like that mark has spoken to him separately from the others, indicating to me that he was not at training. Personally, I think the fact that Mark has spoken to him is positive as it leaves the door open for Euell to return to the playing squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Its certainly looks like Euell has been frozen out of the squad, and I would guess it was due to his "row" with "Lowe" (I don't for one minute think it was a row, more a stalled negotiation; and I don't believe it would have been with Lowe alone, more likely Lowe & Wilde plus Jan/Mark and Jones). And it also looks like that mark has spoken to him separately from the others, indicating to me that he was not at training. Personally, I think the fact that Mark has spoken to him is positive as it leaves the door open for Euell to return to the playing squad. It was insensitive of the club to disclose wages information, who would have done that? I know Euell is no world beater but we could certainly do with some experience and effort if we are to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 His last "blog" post was January 15th, before the changes: http://www.jasoneuell.com/blog/22566.Southampton%20are%20forcing%20me%20out Sounded like he wasn't happy at all being left out, so this new management structure would seen, on paper, to be a good way of him getting back in the team that Wotte wants the "senior pros" to lead... But, there is no mention of him in Wottes chat with the Senior players. Kelvin, Perry et al are mentioned, but no Euell: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11273 Also, he didn't get a look in at the Ujpest game we may or may not have played: He's not injured: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6973 Or suspended: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6982 So where has a player gone that many fans believe could and should be a pivotal player during the run-in? Speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Speak for yourself. Thanks, I normally do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Speak for yourself. I thought he was AOK at the end of last season, I thought he'd be key player for us this season. Perhaps Jan misinterpreted his "attitude". I just don't see it as a money issue, he played then got sent off and didn't play any more. Unless he was adjudged to have got deliberately sent off or something, can't see that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 It was insensitive of the club to disclose wages information, who would have done that? I know Euell is no world beater but we could certainly do with some experience and effort if we are to survive Is Lowe trying to keep him or get money for him? What is the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Is Lowe trying to keep him or get money for him? What is the issue I think hes just generally trying to move him on as hes a high earner, you wouldn't disclose somones wages and not expect them to be miffed, euell is prob now actively seeking a move saving lowe the hastle of doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 (edited) If Colorado Rapids want him, why do we not just allow them to sign him on a free. They pay no fee, we stop paying his wages everyones happy no?? I guess from one of the other posts above, the reason for that is Euell wants his huge contract paid out in full and then be able to leave on a free!! If that is the case then he is a bit of a **** given the clubs situation. If this is not the case and as he states in his blog he wants to stay, why not just bloody play him!!! Surely its better we get something for our money instead of nothing?? Edited 27 January, 2009 by Alright Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 His last "blog" post was January 15th, before the changes: http://www.jasoneuell.com/blog/22566.Southampton%20are%20forcing%20me%20out Sounded like he wasn't happy at all being left out, so this new management structure would seen, on paper, to be a good way of him getting back in the team that Wotte wants the "senior pros" to lead... But, there is no mention of him in Wottes chat with the Senior players. Kelvin, Perry et al are mentioned, but no Euell: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11273 Also, he didn't get a look in at the Ujpest game we may or may not have played: He's not injured: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6973 Or suspended: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=6982 So where has a player gone that many fans believe could and should be a pivotal player during the run-in? Wotte specifically mentioned having meeting with Euell in Mondays echo interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Wotte specifically mentioned having meeting with Euell in Mondays echo interview. I thought he said that he had spoken to Euell not met him I think we should support the club in their dealings with Euell as getting him off the payroll is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I thought he said that he had spoken to Euell not met him I think we should support the club in their dealings with Euell as getting him off the payroll is important Rubbish....what is important is using all assets at our disposal to ensure ccc survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 [/b] Rubbish....what is important is using all assets at our disposal to ensure ccc survival. Not if we go into administration his wages are £150000 approx to the end of the season and he has not played well or often. We may then a get a better loan player on less wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Not if we go into administration his wages are £150000 approx to the end of the season and he has not played well or often. We may then a get a better loan player on less wages Big if... Not much evidence of the better loan players up to now is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Not if we go into administration his wages are £150000 approx to the end of the season and he has not played well or often. We may then a get a better loan player on less wages But we havn't saved a penny by freezing him out. he will get all of that £150000 wether we play him or not. Freezing him outhas achieved nothing, if anything now he will be determinded to milk the club for evey penny he can, any goodwill would have disapeared because of Lowe's attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I expect he's busy counting his £200k annual bonus - money well spent I'm sure we can all agree . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Big if... Not much evidence of the better loan players up to now is there? I thought Cork and Pearce were OK this year Perry Wright and Lucketti were good last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I expect he's busy counting his £200k annual bonus - money well spent I'm sure we can all agree . Would be money better spent if Lowe actually let him kick a ball about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I thought he was AOK at the end of last season, I thought he'd be key player for us this season. Perhaps Jan misinterpreted his "attitude". I just don't see it as a money issue, he played then got sent off and didn't play any more. Unless he was adjudged to have got deliberately sent off or something, can't see that myself. He was good at the end of last season, but has been terrible this season. I'd forgotten about the sending off...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 Euell is on the subs bench tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 I thought Cork and Pearce were OK this year Perry Wright and Lucketti were good last year Just the one left now... So lets keep what we have and try to stay in this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 27 January, 2009 Share Posted 27 January, 2009 It clearly isn't only us that doesn't rate him, is it? He has been up for grabs on a free through two transfer windows without a bite, even on loan. Only one manager in Britain rated him - if only Alco-George was a club manager still...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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