Turkish Posted 20 October, 2023 Share Posted 20 October, 2023 6 minutes ago, suewhistle said: No, it was the effing home grown chillie, whaaaa.. seriously! 🙂 Sue with ringsting. What a delightful image 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 11 hours ago, Turkish said: Sue with ringsting. What a delightful image Did it glow in the dark ? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 Im a fan of possession based football, and I’m also a fan of teams that have an identity. I used to do a lot of coaching in my youth, so Im always appreciated and ‘geeked out’ over tactics The Russell Martin appointment always intrigued and excited me, but the more this goes on the more this feels like a busted flush… before I get chastised, Im speaking from balance here, Ive always found Im more of an optimist around Saints on here and on twitter, but Im starting to get genuinely concerned. We can argue until the cows come home about ‘time’ and ‘patience’ but at what point do we start to question this ? We look destined for mid table obscurity with arguably the best ‘squad’ in this division, yet, we look like one of the easiest to beat ? Unfortunately if we are waiting on things to click, then things are going to have to click with a real ferocity to salvage this season… or are we assuming we are gearing up for a push next year ? I need to see more then just words, because so far we have one of the most fragile underbelly’s in the league 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermitzasaint Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 All this topic has revealed is that some fans want to be gaslit and they will tie themselves in knots trying to gaslight others. Russell Martin isn't going to promote us. It's all excuses from him. Poch had a visible effect on us within a few weeks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 7 hours ago, Kermitzasaint said: Poch had a visible effect on us within a few weeks. And he’s struggling at a club that has been utterly rudderless for over 12 months, ring any bells?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 8 hours ago, Kermitzasaint said: All this topic has revealed is that some fans want to be gaslit and they will tie themselves in knots trying to gaslight others. Russell Martin isn't going to promote us. It's all excuses from him. Poch had a visible effect on us within a few weeks. Are you arguing Martin hasn’t had a visible effect on us? Because I see a completely different team to previous years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 17 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: Im a fan of possession based football, and I’m also a fan of teams that have an identity. I used to do a lot of coaching in my youth, so Im always appreciated and ‘geeked out’ over tactics The Russell Martin appointment always intrigued and excited me, but the more this goes on the more this feels like a busted flush… before I get chastised, Im speaking from balance here, Ive always found Im more of an optimist around Saints on here and on twitter, but Im starting to get genuinely concerned. We can argue until the cows come home about ‘time’ and ‘patience’ but at what point do we start to question this ? We look destined for mid table obscurity with arguably the best ‘squad’ in this division, yet, we look like one of the easiest to beat ? Unfortunately if we are waiting on things to click, then things are going to have to click with a real ferocity to salvage this season… or are we assuming we are gearing up for a push next year ? I need to see more then just words, because so far we have one of the most fragile underbelly’s in the league Unbeaten in 4 but oh so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Kermitzasaint said: All this topic has revealed is that some fans want to be gaslit and they will tie themselves in knots trying to gaslight others. Russell Martin isn't going to promote us. It's all excuses from him. Poch had a visible effect on us within a few weeks. In fairness, newly relegated championship teams rarely get the best young manager coming through in the Spanish top flight who has been praised by Pep... I have serious concerns about our football under Martin, we have a far better team than a lot of sides we're facing and yet we're gifting goals, wasting possession/chances, and dropping points. Against that i acknowledge we've had huge churn off/on the field this summer and we are rebooting the entire tactical setup. The reality is, i think we're being carried by the strength of the playing squad rather than the tactics atm - although, that combination might get us promoted either way. I also do think that as this team grows together they will get more fluid and more dominating in games, and that we'll stop making the same mistakes etc at the back... the second half vs hull was at least promising in that we just took control and really did look like getting the winner - but against that, it was the same old frailties at the back which were clear for all to see. The concept of us playing like this in the premier league (assuming we get back) is horrifying. Long story short, the recent games have saved him from the sack, but they're yet to really convince me. With our squad and resources there really is no excuse not to be finishing top 3 or 4 this season - and if we don't i'll be laying that blame on Martin and SR as it stands. For me, we need to spend some money in January and actually strengthen the wing backs and get a proper CF. We're an injury to KWP away from being properly stuffed, and we've needed to be more clinical since Ings left. Edited 22 October, 2023 by Saint86 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermitzasaint Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 5 hours ago, notnowcato said: And he’s struggling at a club that has been utterly rudderless for over 12 months, ring any bells?? Completely irrelevant but you already know that. Chelsea are a totally different side to what we were when he came to us. I realise you are one of the main promoters of RussellBall but no matter how much you big him up, it's obvious it's not working. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermitzasaint Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 5 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Are you arguing Martin hasn’t had a visible effect on us? Because I see a completely different team to previous years. Sorry. I meant a positive visible effect. Not what RM has done. Can see how you were confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 5 hours ago, notnowcato said: And he’s struggling at a club that has been utterly rudderless for over 12 months, ring any bells?? Pochettino had a positive effect at Tottenham and did perfectly well at PSG and more likely that not will succeed at Chelsea ultimately. Chelsea unbeaten in four but apparently that's not good enough for you. Another manager has scraped MK Don to a breathtaking 13th in the third their and Swansea to 9th in the second tier with the one of the very worst defensive records in the league- ring any bells?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 3 hours ago, CB Fry said: Pochettino had a positive effect at Tottenham and did perfectly well at PSG and more likely that not will succeed at Chelsea ultimately. Chelsea unbeaten in four but apparently that's not good enough for you. Another manager has scraped MK Don to a breathtaking 13th in the third their and Swansea to 9th in the second tier with the one of the very worst defensive records in the league- ring any bells?? Yeah, tough gigs at Spuds and PSG. 🙄 The situations Poch and RM inherited here were vastly different, I didn’t compare the 2, I just disagree with the comparison being made in the first place. Struck me as a desperate attempt to undermine RM, I should’ve just ignored it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 4 minutes ago, notnowcato said: Yeah, tough gigs at Spuds and PSG. 🙄 What's that even supposed to mean? Managing Surs is some easy job is it? For someone so breathtakingly pedantic you don't get much right, do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 21 minutes ago, CB Fry said: What's that even supposed to mean? Managing Surs is some easy job is it? For someone so breathtakingly pedantic you don't get much right, do you? For someone so breathtakingly “intelligent” you seem to struggle over a straight forward sentence with a direct emoji to help. Have a nice evening Fry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 7 hours ago, Saint86 said: In fairness, newly relegated championship teams rarely get the best young manager coming through in the Spanish top flight who has been praised by Pep... I have serious concerns about our football under Martin, we have a far better team than a lot of sides we're facing and yet we're gifting goals, wasting possession/chances, and dropping points. Against that i acknowledge we've had huge churn off/on the field this summer and we are rebooting the entire tactical setup. The reality is, i think we're being carried by the strength of the playing squad rather than the tactics atm - although, that combination might get us promoted either way. I also do think that as this team grows together they will get more fluid and more dominating in games, and that we'll stop making the same mistakes etc at the back... the second half vs hull was at least promising in that we just took control and really did look like getting the winner - but against that, it was the same old frailties at the back which were clear for all to see. The concept of us playing like this in the premier league (assuming we get back) is horrifying. Long story short, the recent games have saved him from the sack, but they're yet to really convince me. With our squad and resources there really is no excuse not to be finishing top 3 or 4 this season - and if we don't i'll be laying that blame on Martin and SR as it stands. For me, we need to spend some money in January and actually strengthen the wing backs and get a proper CF. We're an injury to KWP away from being properly stuffed, and we've needed to be more clinical since Ings left. Hilarious, recent games have saved him from the sack... Pretty much like every other manager! In other words, recently he is doing well. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 3 hours ago, notnowcato said: Yeah, tough gigs at Spuds and PSG. 🙄 The situations Poch and RM inherited here were vastly different, I didn’t compare the 2, I just disagree with the comparison being made in the first place. Struck me as a desperate attempt to undermine RM, I should’ve just ignored it. Spurs to 2nd and a champions league final.....yeah, shit job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 9 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Spurs to 2nd and a champions league final.....yeah, shit job Who said it was a shit job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 09:16, Fabrice29 said: Unbeaten in 4 but oh so easy. And yet Rotherham were able to steal a point and we just about got away with it against Hull this weekend which in the end is a great result away from home Again Im generally a happy clapper and my posts history on here is exceptionally pro Russell M and Sports Republic especially in light of my links with the club We’re on an excellent run, after a dreadful run… we now need to maintain this consistency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said: And yet Rotherham were able to steal a point and we just about got away with it against Hull this weekend which in the end is a great result away from home Again Im generally a happy clapper and my posts history on here is exceptionally pro Russell M and Sports Republic especially in light of my links with the club We’re on an excellent run, after a dreadful run… we now need to maintain this consistency You said we look like one of the easiest teams to beat and your citing two games we didn’t get beat in now. We looked quite easy to beat against Sunderland and Leicester. I’m not sure Boro and Ipswich found it particularly easy but fine, even if I give you that, I’m not sure it’s fair on any level to say we’re one of the easiest teams to beat. Edited 23 October, 2023 by Fabrice29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said: You said we look like one of the easiest teams to beat and your citing two games we didn’t get beat in now. We looked quite easy to beat against Sunderland and Leicester. I’m not sure Boro and Ipswich found it particularly easy but fine, even if I give you that, I’m not sure it’s fair on any level to say we’re one of the easiest teams to beat. we are comfortably one of the easiest teams to score against, if anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 20 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: we are comfortably one of the easiest teams to score against, if anything Yeah, that I’ll agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: we are comfortably one of the easiest teams to score against, if anything Which given our squad is completely unacceptable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 In the 6 games since the 2 drubbings we had in September, our average goals conceded per game is 1. Small set of data but hopefully the trend continues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: we are comfortably one of the easiest teams to score against, if anything We seem to be getting better since that Leicester game, 6 goals conceded in 6 games isn't terrible. Edited 23 October, 2023 by skintsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 Apart from 30 mins against Leeds, 45 against Wednesday & Rotherham, I don't remember us absolutely dominating a full game all season. Its actually pretty depressing how average we've been every single week where it looks like we could concede with every attack. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 21 minutes ago, Dman said: Apart from 30 mins against Leeds, 45 against Wednesday & Rotherham, I don't remember us absolutely dominating a full game all season. Its actually pretty depressing how average we've been every single week where it looks like we could concede with every attack. I feel sorry for you. Your expectations and reality are so far apart. Enjoy the wins, be a bit pissed with the losses and meh to the draws. It’s October, we’re fifth, there’s room for improvement and a looooonnnnnnngggggg way to go. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 15 hours ago, notnowcato said: I feel sorry for you. Your expectations and reality are so far apart. Enjoy the wins, be a bit pissed with the losses and meh to the draws. It’s October, we’re fifth, there’s room for improvement and a looooonnnnnnngggggg way to go. Correct - because we appointed a manager who has no track record of being anything other than bang average. Given the cost and quality of our squad, reality should be way closer to our expectations. I'm not expecting us to piss the league like Leicester will (although had we not been rejected by their manager maybe we would have), but I expect us to be more dominant and look more comfortable than we have. Going down was an opportunity to rebuild with a view of going up and being stronger in the PL next season. Its an opportunity we've absolutely wasted as we only get weaker season upon season from here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 43 minutes ago, Dman said: Correct - because we appointed a manager who has no track record of being anything other than bang average. Given the cost and quality of our squad, reality should be way closer to our expectations. I'm not expecting us to piss the league like Leicester will (although had we not been rejected by their manager maybe we would have), but I expect us to be more dominant and look more comfortable than we have. Going down was an opportunity to rebuild with a view of going up and being stronger in the PL next season. Its an opportunity we've absolutely wasted as we only get weaker season upon season from here. ....and tonight's lottery numbers are? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 24 October, 2023 Share Posted 24 October, 2023 He'll tell you afterwards, just like all the gamblers here tell you about their wins afterwards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 What was on the tactics board for a game like Preston Away? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: What was on the tactics board for a game like Preston Away? Chuck the keeper upfront with seconds left and hope their substitute heads it into his own net. Trust the process, it’s working. People like you are the problem, get behind the club… Edited 25 October, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64saint Posted 13 November, 2023 Share Posted 13 November, 2023 (edited) Looks like another fans forum next week then !! Coming thick and fast this season https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/join-us-for-our-next-fan-forum-event Edited 13 November, 2023 by 64saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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