Saint Marky Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Be fantastic if we manage to get back on our first attempt, but do you think we would just do a ‘Burnley’ and struggle in the relegation with our current squad. Who do we have under contract that look premiership quality? I’d say KWP, Taylor ( obligation to buy apparently), Bednarek, Stu, Sulemana, maybe Adam on current form. Downes and Fraser definitely, but not ours. Also Edozie, Charles, Alcaraz, Dibbling and Amo- Ameyaw all with huge potential, but no way near ready for that step up yet.Che is good enough for the second striker role, but highly unlikely he will be here come the summer and Bayern sniffing at KWP amongst others, so would it be a big rebuild like Forest? Edited January 20 by Saint Marky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It would serve us well to keep the core of the side that won promotion together. So that would need us to sign THB, Downes and possibly Fraser as well permanently. Trying to sign KWP on a new contract, although would understand if he wanted a new challenge, would also be a significant step. From there try and add some extra quality.... A Striker being the most obvious need. But, all ifs and buts right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 My guess as to which players would feature: Bazunu - has improved immensely but still occasionally worry. Would be first choice but I’d want a good experienced back up. Lumley - good in the cup but an unknown quantity. Good enough for the Prem? Maybe need another. 3rd choice. McC - see ya later. KWP - would be first choice Bree - competent back up at best. THB - first choice Bednarek - would do a job as first choice but ideally he’d be back up and we’d bring a new CB in. (Or ABK back!) Stephens - back up at best, 4th choice. Holgate - probably gone but would be decent back up. Manning - back up at best. Larios - we may never know Meghoma - potential. Downes - may not be here but would be pushing for first choice for sure if he stayed. Charles - potential but back up Smallbone - tricky. Back up IMO but could be more. SArmstrong - back up/rotation if he stays Charly - should be good enough but doesn’t seem favoured at this level presently so… Aribo - was crap last year but may be good back up now he’s found his feet. Fraser - I think he stays and is a good back up but pushing for first choice Edozie - pushing for first choice SAA - potential but back up Sulemana - not sure off he’d be here but would be pushing for first choice. Needs end product. AA - not Prem quality but he deserves another shot after this season. Pushing first choice if not there. Che - May not be here but does a job. Back up but pushing. Ross - who? Mara - back up at best A lot of work needed but we’d do better than last season. CB, LB, CM, Winger and striker minimum. I’d also be hugely surprised if we held on to KWP. Promising youngsters like Dibling could help. Long way to go though, I dread to think what our team will look like if we don’t get promoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Let's worry about it when we're there, so much water to go under the bridge yet. Let's just enjoy the second half of this season rather than worrying about how we compete next year. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Hopefully we’ll get relegated straight away so we can go up again 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Hopefully we’ll get relegated straight away so we can go up again Instead of Boing Boing Baggies it’ll be See Saw Saints 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 19 minutes ago, Turkish said: Hopefully we’ll get relegated straight away so we can go up again Failure to go up will soften the blow knowing we get to stay in a VAR-less league , won't be the end of the world 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Marky Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 39 minutes ago, Turkish said: Hopefully we’ll get relegated straight away so we can go up again (*) can’t find the twat emoji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 And so will begin the greatest era in our history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, CB Fry said: And so will begin the greatest era in our history. Aren’t we already in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 15 minutes ago, Saint Marky said: (*) can’t find the twat emoji I’m sure you can write a song about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 36 minutes ago, JRM said: Failure to go up will soften the blow knowing we get to stay in a VAR-less league , won't be the end of the world Imagine todays game, 3 minutes drawing lines to disallow our goal, the. They’d be there for 10 minutes checking all the stuff on the Swansea goal whilst both sets of fans are singing V-A-R. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Saint Marky said: Be fantastic if we manage to get back on our first attempt, but do you think we would just do a ‘Burnley’ and struggle in the relegation with our current squad. Who do we have under contract that look premiership quality? I’d say KWP, Taylor ( obligation to buy apparently), Bednarek, Stu, Sulemana, maybe Adam on current form. Downes and Fraser definitely, but not ours. Also Edozie, Charles, Alcaraz, Dibbling and Amo- Ameyaw all with huge potential, but no way near ready for that step up yet.Che is good enough for the second striker role, but highly unlikely he will be here come the summer and Bayern sniffing at KWP amongst others, so would it be a big rebuild like Forest? Sulemana doesn't look Premier League quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Block41 Saint said: Sulemana doesn't look Premier League quality. Or Championship quality tbf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Marky Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 36 minutes ago, Turkish said: Imagine todays game, 3 minutes drawing lines to disallow our goal, the. They’d be there for 10 minutes checking all the stuff on the Swansea goal whilst both sets of fans are singing V-A-R. I think both would have been ruled out fairly quickly, plus I think we’d have the penalty for the foul on Che given. I’m not a fan of VAR in the slightest, but todays game highlighted how poor the officiating is and overall it’s been very poor.I think it we have benefited from the lack of it at our games though, with tight decisions going our way on the whole. Sorry, can you just confirm, is it a song you would like about getting relegated, or about twat emojis? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2024 at 15:45, Saint Marky said: I think both would have been ruled out fairly quickly, plus I think we’d have the penalty for the foul on Che given. I’m not a fan of VAR in the slightest, but todays game highlighted how poor the officiating is and overall it’s been very poor.I think it we have benefited from the lack of it at our games though, with tight decisions going our way on the whole. Sorry, can you just confirm, is it a song you would like about getting relegated, or about twat emojis? Thanks. The officiating is not poor. It’s just operating to a different set of tolerance levels. The sort that football has always had before TV stuck its nose in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 20/01/2024 at 17:08, Colinjb said: It would serve us well to keep the core of the side that won promotion together. So that would need us to sign THB, Downes and possibly Fraser as well permanently. Trying to sign KWP on a new contract, although would understand if he wanted a new challenge, would also be a significant step. From there try and add some extra quality.... A Striker being the most obvious need. But, all ifs and buts right now. I think we have to buy TBH if we go up don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I don’t think it’s a coincidence we’ve become a formidable force without Sulemana in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Maggie May said: I don’t think it’s a coincidence we’ve become a formidable force without Sulemana in the team. What, the same Sulemana who has also been part of this 21 game unbeaten run? Why must people always look to pick out someone to moan about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: What, the same Sulemana who has also been part of this 21 game unbeaten run? Why must people always look to pick out someone to moan about. I’ve been saying this since last season. Sulemana is a colossal waste of money and I don’t think anyone can say otherwise when judging his return so far. A lot of fans wear rose tinted glasses because of his performance against Liverpool. A match where the term “dead rubber” doesn’t even do it justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We would struggle massively as it stands but probably only need three or so quality signings to change that, assuming THB, Downes and Fraser sign. We have very few players that could excel at PL level (prob just KWP and potentially THB and Downes, but we have plenty that are good enough as part of a good team set up: Janny B, Stuey, Alcaraz, Fraser, Edozie etc.) We would need to sign a good left back. We would need to sign a CB as well as THB, or I guess we could bring Bella Kotchap back. We would need to sign a combative centre mid. We would need to sign a striker. If being greedy, a GK too. If we got those signings right, I think we would have a fair chance of staying up. Baz KWP - THB - New - New New - Downes - Smallbone/Stu/Alcaraz Arma/Amo/Dibbles - New - Fraser/Edozie That leaves Stephens, Bree, Manning, Charles, that other striker we signed as options. Sell Sulemana and I assume Adams will have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, benjii said: We would struggle massively as it stands but probably only need three or so quality signings to change that, assuming THB, Downes and Fraser sign. We have very few players that could excel at PL level (prob just KWP and potentially THB and Downes, but we have plenty that are good enough as part of a good team set up: Janny B, Stuey, Alcaraz, Fraser, Edozie etc.) We would need to sign a good left back. We would need to sign a CB as well as THB, or I guess we could bring Bella Kotchap back. We would need to sign a combative centre mid. We would need to sign a striker. If being greedy, a GK too. If we got those signings right, I think we would have a fair chance of staying up. Baz KWP - THB - New - New New - Downes - Smallbone/Stu/Alcaraz Arma/Amo/Dibbles - New - Fraser/Edozie That leaves Stephens, Bree, Manning, Charles, that other striker we signed as options. Sell Sulemana and I assume Adams will have left. How about Ross Stewart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 53 minutes ago, HKsaint said: How about Ross Stewart? Pretty much written him off. Clearly made of glass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Dman said: Pretty much written him off. Clearly made of glass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Marky Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 I think the question was answered in last nights performance unfortunately… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 19 minutes ago, Saint Marky said: I think the question was answered in last nights performance unfortunately… If we had a decent striker, we would have won last night (or at least scored 3). This is the fundamental issue and has been since we lost even Pelle (and certainly Ings pre-last injury). Burnley's issue as well. If we do get a striker like that tho we'll lose him in the Jan transfer window anyway 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 36 minutes ago, Saint Marky said: I think the question was answered in last nights performance unfortunately… Nah, i wouldn't read anything into it what so ever. The most obvious takeaways for me is that you have to play your best players (i.e KWP, Armstrong(s), Adams, Fraser, Downes, THB etc). We didn't do that yesterday for a start. And the other takeaway is that we'd need to purchase attackers of the right quality, our approach play last night was pretty much spot on and it showed what you can get out of the way we play - but the quality at the top end killed us. I reckon we'd have done better with Fraser in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Nah, i wouldn't read anything into it what so ever. The most obvious takeaways for me is that you have to play your best players (i.e KWP, Armstrong(s), Adams, Fraser, Downes, THB etc). We didn't do that yesterday for a start. And the other takeaway is that we'd need to purchase attackers of the right quality, our approach play last night was pretty much spot on and it showed what you can get out of the way we play - but the quality at the top end killed us. I reckon we'd have done better with Fraser in there. He is the only player we have who will take on the first time shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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