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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, whelk said:

Probably the only person who does. I wish he would fuck off back to where he came from and never come back

He comes from Bursledon and seemingly has been controversial there too according to articles online (Echo). I wish it was a bit closer to that end of the M27 as he’d be ideal for Pompey Online, it’s full of posters with his views on this and the other idiot thread he started. Maybe now they’re in the Championship he might switch allegiances as he hardly ever posts seemingly on the actual SFC related part of this site anymore? 

Just to educate him, autism even at the severe end of spectrum is no mitigation whatsoever for the crimes charged with and he deserves to rot in hell, but it does explain why the parents and siblings had some problems managing him. It’s very rare but there are other cases by perps who aren’t black people born in the UK. Neurodiverse UK citizens come in nice, ordinary, horrible and evil, just like every other segment of the population https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/35086/tw-autistic-teenagers-found-guilty-of-heinous-crime

They are also more likely than the average to be victims of violent crime due to lack of social awareness https://news.sky.com/story/oliver-stephens-murder-two-teens-sentenced-for-luring-autistic-boy-to-park-and-murdering-him-12416456

He’s got previous form, go back and see some of his posts on Grenfell at the time and the Brexit thread which showed violent intent to other posters with different views Badger mentions. Doesn’t care much for the facts does John, but in his head would love to be out there with the EDL boys, but the body was never up to it.

Look at this, far right morons and ex-football firms/England travel club on banning orders smashing up a cop shop (law and order) and torching a CAB. In the most deprived part of the country where the citizens need it the most. Edit - just seen his post where he says there’s no evidence the rioters are far right - they’re chanting for Tommy Robinson in all of the reports you dense skate prick. But then he probably doesn’t need the MSM, probably in the MLT camp of batshit crazy conspiracy theories https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0jqjxe8d1yt

Because the thick cunts see the first lie online posted by Robinson and Farage, and smash up their country. But then Bannon loves Robinson, GM loves Trump and both Trump and Robinson are convicted, racist felons. 

Never mind that the actual parents of the victims, grieving for a loss we can barely understand it’s so dreadful, have asked for this nonsense to stop and that’s it’s making the pain x10 worse.

Yes CB Fry, he is indeed a cunt, and to add a very lonely, and an attention seeking one. Well he’s getting what he wanted but not liking what he’s seeing. It isn’t racist to want to debate immigration at all, but it is to do so on the basis of stirring up hate on blatant misinformation. 

 

 

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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7 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

He’s got previous form, go back and see some of his posts on Grenfell at the time ,.,,

I had forgotten about the immigrant meth lab theory that GM was pushing.

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spyinthesky

spyinthesky

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I am someone who was born just after the end of WW2 and can remember going to collect food vouchers at a Post Office in London Road well into the early 1950's.
We had very little.
Both Mum & Dad lost relatives and property during the war and this was not uncommon.
National Service put young men into uniform for a year or two and subject to discipline.
I got the cane at school at 10 years old for repeating a word I had heard but had no idea what it meant.
We had discipline at school and discipline at home.
It wasnt pleasant and sometimes the boundaries were stretched but basic rules were set and this brought most of us in line.
We rented a 14" Sobell TV, had no phone, no car, no foreign holidays and we stood in the rain in the Chocolate Boxes to watch the Saints make their way up from Division 3 to the unexpected heights of Division One.
A lot of us used to sneak in to watch Hampshire Cricket later in the day FOC when they played at the County Ground.
Many of us played football in the winter and cricket in the summer either at school or on the many Sports Grounds around the town.
When we went anywhere by coach or train, the entertainment was provided by looking out of the window, not focused on a screen which nowadays provides irrelevant or seditious material.
I was given a small Kodak camera for passing the 11+ and promptly left it on a Royal Blue coach taking us to a rented caravan in Weymouth which leaked and after 3 days we had to pack up and go home so I have very few photos of me growing up and most of them would not have been good enough quality to pass through the Boots developing process in any event.
We had scraps at school using fists as the only weapon, no kicking and definitely no weapons and no Drugs, the latter contributing a lot to society's woes in recent times.
In rather a rambling way, I am suggesting that although my kids and society as a whole have many more material things, life has become much more polarised and less disciplined, to the detriment of us all.
Moving onto the subject of Immigration, I have a lot of good friends who are not WASP's and have all made decent contributions to life in this country as have many immigrants before them eg Irish, Caribbean, Huguenots, Jews etc
Most of them, who have integrated fully into life in this country, agree that Immigration should be controlled and decry the way Britain has lost it's perceived traditional values.
How Immigration is dealt with in a sensitive way and how the legislators deal with those promoting radical views is beyond my comprehension but something needs to be done..
However those 'patriots' supporting the likes of Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon , Katie Hopkins, Nigel Farage  etc etc are not helping nor are the likes of Twitter and other platforms that allow access to all sorts of unsubstantiated nonsense to be passed on to largely under educated thugs who delight in a bit of summer rioting and the opportunity of robbing the occasional convenience store.
This all seems to be reminiscent of the problems that led up to WW2 when Mosley and his black shirts turned their attention on the Jews, replicating what was going on in Germany. Although they were effectively repulsed here by actions of those who were opposed to their doctrine, the world moved onto much more dangerous times and unfortunately this seems to be happening around the world at the moment.
I havent much longer to concern myself about this or the concerns about whether Saints will be able to avoid another relegation but I do worry about my kids and all you whippersnappers on here who will have to deal with the consequences.
Best of luck chums.
 

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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This thread is called solving the problem of immigration. It seems as though the far right and those who make excuses for them solution is to attack mosques, attack peaceful locals who have different coloured skin, set fire to police cars and buildings, loot stores. These are people fighting for British values and to get their country back. If these are British values and getting our country back means more racial intolerance from far right thugs, I’d rather not thanks. And for those desperately trying to pretend that the rioting isn’t being driven by far right thugs and blatant Islamophobia, you are deluded and just as bad as those throwing bricks.

aintforever

aintforever

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3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

This thread is called solving the problem of immigration. It seems as though the far right and those who make excuses for them solution is to attack mosques, attack peaceful locals who have different coloured skin, set fire to police cars and buildings, loot stores. These are people fighting for British values and to get their country back. If these are British values and getting our country back means more racial intolerance from far right thugs, I’d rather not thanks. And for those desperately trying to pretend that the rioting isn’t being driven by far right thugs and blatant Islamophobia, you are deluded and just as bad as those throwing bricks.

The racism of those defending the rioting scumbags is so thinly veiled it’s embarrassing.

We are all shocked and appalled by the horrific murders and I’m sure every one of us will want the government to do whatever it can to stop a repeat in the future. But anyone whose first thought is to go out and attack a mosque is just a racist thug - it’s as simple as that. The fact the the cunt responsible was British makes all this rioting completely nonsensical as well as counter productive.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, aintforever said:

The racism of those defending the rioting scumbags is so thinly veiled it’s embarrassing.

We are all shocked and appalled by the horrific murders and I’m sure every one of us will want the government to do whatever it can to stop a repeat in the future. But anyone whose first thought is to go out and attack a mosque is just a racist thug - it’s as simple as that. The fact the the cunt responsible was British makes all this rioting completely nonsensical as well as counter productive.

But he is the wrong sort of British.

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ChrisPY

ChrisPY

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10 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

I get called a cunt by lefties on here

I called you a cunt. I’m someone who is generally slightly left of centre and voted Labour in the previous two elections (decent opposition being the reason ahead of support of Corbyn in the former). On this issue I’m centrist if not slightly to the right.

i called you a cunt because you’re a racist cunt and your views will only create division in our country.

Immigration is a clear problem but needs to be dealt with sensitively but with clarity.

No party is currently doing that but the sort of drivel you spout is creating more excuses and distraction for those parties to use instead of delivering real change. With respect, shut up and fuck off.

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Guided Missile

Guided Missile

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On 02/08/2024 at 07:34, Guided Missile said:

Here's a racist news article. Just shows what can happen when you import radicalised and damaged families from war zones like Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and Rwanda. 

Trouble is, no one is allowed to question or challenge why this great country of ours and its population were forced to agree to this. I doubt many of these damaged people are living in Islington. Normally the government places them in working class areas. 

We are heading for a civil war. Pick your side.

Sounds like Elon Musk agrees with me.

 

badgerx16

badgerx16

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6 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Sounds like Elon Musk agrees with me.

 

That is not validation, Musk is a grade A cretin. A rich cretin admittedly, but a cretin nonetheless.

On second thoughts - Birds of a feather..,,.,....

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bpsaint

bpsaint

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8 hours ago, Turkish said:

Looks like Spain are going to have thousands of new doctors and engineers looking for work next week

All of those women and children desperately fleeing war torn Morocco….

They made their bed unfortunately when they handed over resident status to half a million undocumented migrants, the invasion will just carry on now.

Yet the Spanish seem more concerned  about overtourism 🤷🏻‍♂️

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egg

egg

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11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

That is such a ridiculous article - is that written by some Trump fan boy?

It gives the impression it's Spain proper and that Spain has changed it's law to invite illegal immigrants. 

In truth it's Ceuta, not Spain proper, and the legal change is just not to to turn back people intercepted at sea. Everyone else, ie all this lot, can and will be turned back like they were in 2021. Unaccompanied kids only will need to be provided for by Spain, the rest will get turned back. 

This highlights 3 things. 

Stupid reporting 

People's feeds soaking up stupid reporting, and not reading below the surface 

Why the feck do Spain still have 2 northern outposts in Africa. Mental. 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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2 minutes ago, egg said:

That is such a ridiculous article - is that written by some Trump fan boy?

It gives the impression it's Spain proper and that Spain has changed it's law to invite illegal immigrants. 

In truth it's Ceuta, not Spain proper, and the legal change is just not to to turn back people intercepted at sea. Everyone else, ie all this lot, can and will be turned back like they were in 2021. Unaccompanied kids only will need to be provided for by Spain, the rest will get turned back. 

This highlights 3 things. 

Stupid reporting 

People's feeds soaking up stupid reporting, and not reading below the surface 

Why the feck do Spain still have 2 northern outposts in Africa. Mental. 

It was posted by our regular "X" dunce, Alex, what do you expect? This is what happens when pot-washers are allowed social media.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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31 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

It was posted by our regular "X" dunce, Alex, what do you expect? This is what happens when pot-washers are allowed social media.

Part of Spain/their territory was ‘invaded’.

sorry it was not Spain “proper” or what ever that is.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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29 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

It was posted by our regular "X" dunce, Alex, what do you expect? This is what happens when pot-washers are allowed social media.

Says the resident fruit picker 

egg

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Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Part of Spain was ‘invaded’

sorry it was not Spain “proper” or what ever that is.

Spain "proper" is Spain. Hth. 

Describing Ceuta as Spain is akin to describing Gibraltar as Britain. 

Reporting that Spain has allowed an "amnesty" against newly arriving illegal immigrants, when it hasn't, is poor journalism. 

The gullible soak up this shit reporting because it feeds their narrative. A sign of times, sadly. 

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egg

egg

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

Such a good comeback you had to post it separately 😂

Any cherries and strawberries going spare please? 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Part of Spain was ‘invaded’

sorry it was not Spain “proper” or what ever that is.

Just read into things first before just blindly posting - that's all we're asking.

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Yep, up there with the pot wash gag.

This "I know that you are, but what am I" schtick is very 1980's playground. If that's the best you've got no wonder you get X to form your opinions for you.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

This "I know that you are, but what am I" schtick is very 1980's playground. If that's the best you've got no wonder you get X to form your opinions for you.

You keep saying it. Not me. You say it over and over

all we are asking is to debate with a Bit of respect

 

 

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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8 minutes ago, egg said:

Spain "proper" is Spain. Hth. 

Describing Ceuta as Spain is akin to describing Gibraltar as Britain. 

Reporting that Spain has allowed an "amnesty" against newly arriving illegal immigrants, when it hasn't, is poor journalism. 

The gullible soak up this shit reporting because it feeds their narrative. A sign of times, sadly. 

Cueta and Gibraltar are different beasts

but I’m sure you know that

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

You keep saying it. Not me. You say it over and over

all we are asking is to debate with a Bit of respect

 

 

You won't get respect if you post from X, and rightly so.

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

Maybe they need them all to put out the wildfires?

I think dropping people on fires to put them out is pretty barbaric, although I'm sure there are lots of people on this forum that would support it.

egg

egg

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1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Cueta and Gibraltar are different beasts

but I’m sure you know that

Sure, there's a difference and I oversimplified it, but it doesn't alter that your article gave the impression that these people were coming into mainland Spain, not an enclave on a different continent. 

Regardless, the reporting was still daft, and Spain having outposts in Africa even dafter. 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not even a BBC piece on X. That is harsh. 

Nick Sorter on the BBC is he? No, he's a right wing influencer.

It takes a lot to be told this at 7.20am, but I think you need a timeout mate. Go gather yourself and have a think about what you're trying to post.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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3 minutes ago, egg said:

Sure, there's a difference and I oversimplified it, but it doesn't alter that your article gave the impression that these people were coming into mainland Spain, not an enclave on a different continent. 

Regardless, the reporting was still daft, and Spain having outposts in Africa even dafter. 

Not my article I never wrote it. It was a blunt and extreme take from an outsider PoV.

do I agree with it? No, but the wider point of immigration and the complete lack of will and ability to do anything meaningful is highlighted here.

 

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Nick Sorter on the BBC is he? No, he's a right wing influencer.

It takes a lot to be told this at 7.20am, but I think you need a timeout mate. Go gather yourself and have a think about what you're trying to post.

I never said he was on the BBC?

what has the time of day got to do with anything?

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I never said he was on the BBC?

You didn't post a BBC article on X. All you did was post from a right wing influencer. Why would you post a BBC article from X when you can post it from the BBC site?

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

You didn't post a BBC article on X. All you did was post from a right wing influencer.

I know it didn’t.

again, I never said it was an BBC article.

All we are asking is to read the replies before making sarky responses. 

 

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egg

egg

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not my article I never wrote it. It was a blunt and extreme take from an outsider PoV.

do I agree with it? No, but the wider point of immigration and the complete lack of will and ability to do anything meaningful is highlighted here.

 

That's an odd interpretation. 

What we have is people keen to enter the EU, and Spain clinging onto their colonial past thus giving people a potential entry point. 

egg

egg

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2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Who's "we"? 

All I am asking is not to post articles from X.

 

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Why?

I'm not sure where this flirting is taking the discussion. 

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

Because a lot of non-racist people don't have it and can't read the full articles.

Is this out of bounds for you?

 

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