Jack Stephens

[SW11_Saint]

2 minutes ago, saintant said:

So you'd presumably be happy if we sell Ramsdale, Fernandes, Dibling, Bednarek and THB and spend only on one attacking midfielder because that's the only position you think is left to fill after comments from Spors. Can you imagine the outcry from the majority of the fanbase?

It’s not what I think - I’m just reporting (via Alfie House) what Spors has allegedly indicated. On the CBs I’d be happy with what we’ve got if Bednarek/THB leave (though I’d rather see THB stay). 

I think they’ll feel a McCarthy & Bazunu are enough for this division and maybe bring in a new 3rd choice keeper. 

Much of what we can spend is down to PSR, which is in turn related to outgoing sales, so could be Spors is just keeping his cards close to his chest until he knows who is leaving and for how much. 

[aintforever]

9 minutes ago, Challenger said:

The extremely low bar set last season clearly hasn't been raised.

No point wetting the bed just yet, best wait and see what the squad looks like at the close of the transfer window.

The Stephens thing is a load of fuss about nothing.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, SW11_Saint said:

It’s not what I think - I’m just reporting (via Alfie House) what Spors has allegedly indicated. On the CBs I’d be happy with what we’ve got if Bednarek/THB leave (though I’d rather see THB stay). 

I think they’ll feel a McCarthy & Bazunu are enough for this division and maybe bring in a new 3rd choice keeper. 

Much of what we can spend is down to PSR, which is in turn related to outgoing sales, so could be Spors is just keeping his cards close to his chest until he knows who is leaving and for how much. 

Ok, then it's possibly your interpretation of what Spors said that differs from mine.

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, imadirtyurchin said:

See, I actually think you’re right - and he must have some perceived value around the club as they are paying him a lot of money to be there and for longer. I don’t have a problem with that bit really - I have a problem with an arguably poor quality player (proven with a pretty mediocre career and stats) with stupid disciplinary problems being captain and therefore pretty much guaranteeing himself to be on the pitch and an important part of the 11. We should be aiming for better. I want to improve the team not reward a historically bad season. I don’t mind if they think he’s good for morale and the dressing room. Let him put the cones out. As he’s captain he’ll play. 

Plus Lallana was allegedly paid £45k p/w last year to so similar and it certainly wasn’t based on playing contribution. Now he’s part of coaching set-up. If Will Still is happy about that, good for them both. But Adam is supposed to be that voice of experience. Why does Stephens need to be for the next year 3 years as well? At least Lallana was a top player. How many non-playing voices of experience do we need? 

And a Jack still could’ve done that under contract next season.

[hypochondriac]

25 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

Pretty sure Spors has indicated he’s only after a CB (done), Striker (done), and attacking midfielder (tbc). 

Nope he didn't say that. He said those were the three positions we were going to sign before selling anyone. If the big name players leave then fairly obviously we will replace them. 

[SW11_Saint]

36 minutes ago, imadirtyurchin said:

Oh yeah, you’re absolutely right. Stats can be made to say anything. Except in this case…, I couldn’t make the stats say that jack stephens was a good player 😆

Indeed… 

[SW11_Saint]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

Ok, then it's possibly your interpretation of what Spors said that differs from mine.

Absolutely. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

It’s not what I think - I’m just reporting (via Alfie House) what Spors has allegedly indicated. On the CBs I’d be happy with what we’ve got if Bednarek/THB leave (though I’d rather see THB stay). 

I think they’ll feel a McCarthy & Bazunu are enough for this division and maybe bring in a new 3rd choice keeper. 

🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, aintforever said:

No point wetting the bed just yet, best wait and see what the squad looks like at the close of the transfer window.

The Stephens thing is a load of fuss about nothing.

It’s what comes next if they can pull this stunt. Echo puff pieces about how well Bazunu and BBD are training, new contract for Smallbone, McCarthy, more ‘good lads’.

Edited 8 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Challenger]

9 minutes ago, aintforever said:

No point wetting the bed just yet, best wait and see what the squad looks like at the close of the transfer window.

The Stephens thing is a load of fuss about nothing.

Indeed, however I am not getting the impression the new " regime" is learning anything by offering a new contract to a bang average player.

We're in this league due to piss poor management decisions and players of the calibre of JS.

[imadirtyurchin]

17 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

Indeed… 

But did we win? Or just not lose? 😆 did we not lose because the opposition fell asleep watching jack complete 92 percent of his 600 4 yard passes per game?!

 

this could go on forever. ultimately its happened. we have to live with it.

 

Best bit is - Im looking forward to seeing the goalie with the worst shot to save ratio in the world /s (but also not /s) between the sticks again

 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by imadirtyurchin
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[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, imadirtyurchin said:

Best bit is - Im looking forward to seeing the goalie with the worst shot to save ratio in the world /s (but also not /s) between the sticks again

I’d actually laugh if the club did that and he let a couple of soft ones to give the skates their first league win at SMS. Agent Gavin indeed. Given the volume of keeper links though this summer, I doubt even they’ll be that stupid this time. 

[Whitey Grandad]

40 minutes ago, imadirtyurchin said:

But did we win? Or just not lose? 😆 did we not lose because the opposition fell asleep watching jack complete 92 percent of his 600 4 yard passes per game?!

 

this could go on forever. ultimately its happened. we have to live with it.

 

Best bit is - Im looking forward to seeing the goalie with the worst shot to save ratio in the world /s (but also not /s) between the sticks again

 

 

 

It never fails to amaze me that anybody actually believes this crap. It's an algorithm looking at videos FFS and yes, I do suspect a hint of sarcasm in there somewhere. 

[S-Clarke]

1 hour ago, SW11_Saint said:

It’s not what I think - I’m just reporting (via Alfie House) what Spors has allegedly indicated. On the CBs I’d be happy with what we’ve got if Bednarek/THB leave (though I’d rather see THB stay). 

I think they’ll feel a McCarthy & Bazunu are enough for this division and maybe bring in a new 3rd choice keeper. 

Much of what we can spend is down to PSR, which is in turn related to outgoing sales, so could be Spors is just keeping his cards close to his chest until he knows who is leaving and for how much. 

If they truly think any of that, then we have no future under the current ownership and management model and they need to go. That would be sending us to L1 at a very alarming rate.

I don't think that's the case though. We will replace Fernandes, THB, Ramsdale if they were sold. You can't lose your best players and complacently fall back to your squad players and expect to be competitive. I'm sure they're not that daft.

Edited 7 hours ago by S-Clarke

[SW11_Saint]

3 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Nope he didn't say that. He said those were the three positions we were going to sign before selling anyone. If the big name players leave then fairly obviously we will replace them. 

Yes, sorry, I think you are right. Three they were attempting to ‘get on with’ regardless, but then others to replace some of those who depart. 

[SW11_Saint]

5 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

If they truly think any of that, then we have no future under the current ownership and management model and they need to go. That would be sending us to L1 at a very alarming rate.

I don't think that's the case though. We will replace Fernandes, THB, Ramsdale if they were sold. You can't lose your best players and complacently fall back to your squad players and expect to be competitive. I'm sure they're not that daft.

I stand corrected. I think @hypochondriac has it right - three that Spors was sourcing regardless of sales (two down, one to go) and then others to follow to replace some departures where we don’t have cover. 

i still don’t think they will replace all key departures. Even if THB goes I think they see Quashie & Edwards stepping in. Goalie - not sure. I’d like them to buy (assuming Rambo goes) but might they think the two they have are ‘okay enough’ in this Dlv, then Rambo goes on loan and returns if we get promoted? We’ll see. 

If we keep AR & MF I’ll be very confident about our chances. 

Edited 2 hours ago by SW11_Saint

[SW11_Saint]

6 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Adequate doesn’t get you automatic promotion which is supposedly what Still has been set to aim for. Wood is not an adequate Champ CB either - have a watch of this. If the club had paid attention, Martin wouldn’t have been allowed to sign him. And Quashie hasn’t played a minute in the Championship, Kayi Sanda barely a couple of promising PL sub cameos. Edwards has 18 months experience and a good half-season loan at QPR but he will 100% need experience - high quality experience for this level - if Jan and THB leave. Unless the club are repeating the 08/09 experiment. Brum, Ipswich et al won’t be relying on a u23 back line like the above and that’s the minimum bar for Southampton Football Club.

 

Serious question- which CB are you expecting us to buy if THB goes?

[SW11_Saint]

6 hours ago, Challenger said:

Indeed, however I am not getting the impression the new " regime" is learning anything by offering a new contract to a bang average player.

We're in this league due to piss poor management decisions and players of the calibre of JS.

“Rinse & repeat”

[hypochondriac]

8 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I’d actually laugh if the club did that and he let a couple of soft ones to give the skates their first league win at SMS. Agent Gavin indeed. Given the volume of keeper links though this summer, I doubt even they’ll be that stupid this time. 

Interview with Still saying its his choice and how impressed he's been by him in training. God I hope not! 

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

Serious question- which CB are you expecting us to buy if THB goes?

If bednarek and THB go then I'd like to see Ben mee sign. 

[coalman]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interview with Still saying its his choice and how impressed he's been by him in training. God I hope not! 

At some point we'll realise our players look so good in training is because of the standard of opposition.