The Reform Thread

[whelk]

9 hours ago, The Kraken said:

At least say it out loud as to why, Ian

Because they will go after nurses pensions 

[Farmer Saint]

9 hours ago, iansums said:

This is an even better post, outright indignation followed by comedy genius.

Not sure indignation is the correct word there, no anger involved.

I assume you don't want to have a go at telling us which one of them you like?

Edited 6 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

With the Conservative right wing membership and those who left that party as they felt it wasn’t right wing enough, certainly. And he’s miles better than Braverman or any of the other defectors, or indeed Farage or Tice. But he’s as ambitious and ruthless as Boris was in a party one man likes to call his castle, however much Farage realises he needs to build a front bench and plenty disliked him in the Tory party, including some on the right as well who saw an opportunist right winger compared to Braverman, Patel and others who they viewed as instinctive. It’ll be a bumpy ride and his intention is clear - bring the parties together with him as leader which plenty on both sides don’t want. 
Outside of the Tory right, he struggles with centrist voters and his southern gazumping estate agent image allied to the stench of planning related corruption allegations will deter ex-Labour potential Reform switchers in the Midlands and North. Boris could unlock those voters, Farage could unlock some, but I don’t think Bob has the same pulling power. But he could win them seats in the SE, East and SW. 

Sure but there's advantages and disadvantages to having him vs not having him. Imo I can see why those at the top of reform think that the advantages would outweigh the disadvantages and tbh I would agree with them. You've said yourself he's miles better than most of the others. Long way till the election but I reckon Jenrick attracts more votes than he repels personally.

[Winnersaint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Because they will go after nurses pensions 

And teachers etc, they can fuck right off. They're not having my 'gold plated' pension. 

[rallyboy]

Jenrick might bring in support, unlike Suella who has probably knocked a few thousand off the Reform fanbase - seeing her circus act yesterday reminded me of those Boris cabinet yes-men and women who would spout literally any old lies, just to harvest votes from the thick.

The Conservative party looks less hateful and more palatable than it did yesterday morning.

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

The only reason I would not vote Reform is Farage himself. I think they need a new leader. Not sure if Jenrick would be the man for the job and would rather it was Zia Yusuf myself. But under Farage I could not vote for them. If there was an election right now I have no idea at all who I would vote for. Labour and Tory, absolutely no way.

It will be these lot, just admit it, you fit right in

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party – Vote For Insanity

 

[iansums]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

Not sure indignation is the correct word there, no anger involved.

I assume you don't want to have a go at telling us which one of them you like?

Not a fan of either to be honest in terms of their personalities and records. There are some politicians you warm to and others that grate on you, across the whole political spectrum. I've mentioned before that I admire Streeting and Mahmood for instance.

[Farmer Saint]

25 minutes ago, iansums said:

Not a fan of either to be honest in terms of their personalities and records. There are some politicians you warm to and others that grate on you, across the whole political spectrum. I've mentioned before that I admire Streeting and Mahmood for instance.

Not sure why you've taken so much umbridge with what I said then.

Edited 4 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[iansums]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Not sure why you've taken so much umbridge with what I said then.

I didn’t, just thought it amusing so thought I would mock your posts. I guess  I should have added a smiley emoji 🙂 

[Jeremy Corbyn]

2 hours ago, rallyboy said:

Jenrick might bring in support, unlike Suella who has probably knocked a few thousand off the Reform fanbase - seeing her circus act yesterday reminded me of those Boris cabinet yes-men and women who would spout literally any old lies, just to harvest votes from the thick.

The Conservative party looks less hateful and more palatable than it did yesterday morning.

a good couple of weeks for Kemi I think, handled the Jenrick departure authorititively, lost some waster MPs and been more likeable doing the circuit.  They're obviously a long way from government but they'll improve if they quietly develop back in to the safe and calm party whilst reform and labour make all the noise.

[rallyboy]

Tories just need to offload Philp, Holden and one or two other lunatics and they'll look normal again.

[Farmer Saint]

31 minutes ago, iansums said:

I didn’t, just thought it amusing so thought I would mock your posts. I guess  I should have added a smiley emoji 🙂 

Hmmm, how odd. Not sure your "mocking" ended up how you envisaged it.

Edited 2 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[sadoldgit]

There are people on social media in this country saying they think that Trump is doing a great job and that we need ICE on the streets over here.

They have actually watched the videos and think we should have some of that over here. 

We live in strange times.
 

[iansums]

10 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

There are people on social media in this country saying they think that Trump is doing a great job and that we need ICE on the streets over here.

They have actually watched the videos and think we should have some of that over here. 

We live in strange times.
 

Have to agree with you on that

[tdmickey3]

Duck will be pleased 

[spyinthesky]

Seems that India and the EU have agreed a big trade deal.
I wonder what Nige and his Brexit followers make of this?

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Seems that India and the EU have agreed a big trade deal.
I wonder what Nige and his Brexit followers make of this?

Our deal will be biggerer and betterer once we get the Government the country deserves.

Edited 52 minutes ago by badgerx16