S-Clarke Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Willo of Whiteley said: its ok lads, I’m convinced MLG is working off of FM Ratings, which are hugely skewed in our squad at the moment I find. So, no, the reality is if we don't replace Dibling and Fernandes we do not have a top Championship side, far from it. But we will replace if they go, so it's a moot point. 1
sockeye Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: The potential problem lies not within two quality players leaving, nor does it lie in the fee we receive - it will be a large sum come what may. The problem lies with the replacements we get in for those two. We know they won't be of the same quality - how could they be, we are now a league lower and thus less attractive to players. However they simply cannot be duds. We can't afford to go signing guff. Over to you, recruitment team... If they’re just going to buy more deadwood they can keep the money to themselves and it can contribute to getting a rolls royce player upon promotion
Saint Scott Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: MLG is working off of FM Ratings, which are hugely skewed in our squad at the moment I find. So, no, the reality is if we don't replace Dibling and Fernandes we do not have a top Championship side, far from it. But we will replace if they go, so it's a moot point. Isn't MLG responsible for said ratings? Makes sense
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, sockeye said: If they’re just going to buy more deadwood they can keep the money to themselves and it can contribute to getting a rolls royce player upon promotion you think we will get promoted without spending a bit on replacements for Dibling and Fernandes? 3 1
sockeye Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Chez said: you think we will get promoted without spending a bit on replacements for Dibling and Fernandes? No we definitely have positions we need to buy, in my opinion a couple of MF, winger and GK, but I suppose I just have a bit of a hangover from last summer 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Chez said: you think we will get promoted without spending a bit on replacements for Dibling and Fernandes? Of course we will, after all, last summer's transfer kitty was used to buy players for this season's championship campaign. Cunning eh? 2
Matthew Le God Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said: At an initial fee of £40m +, he'd be Forest's record signing, West Ham have only spent more on Haller, I think, and same for Wolves with Cunha, so I don't see it happening. As I said ages ago, those sides would all want a Gibbs-White type deal of £25m+ add-ons, which I can't see us accepting. They've spent in that ballpark very recently
Suhari Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago It is pretty fucking quiet on incoming rumours. I know there's a while before the pink dildos get dusted off, but still. Lot's of work to do. Hope Spors can deliver.
Matty's Caddy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Suhari said: It is pretty fucking quiet on incoming rumours. I know there's a while before the pink dildos get dusted off, but still. Lot's of work to do. Hope Spors can deliver. Purple….. 1
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Of course we will, after all, last summer's transfer kitty was used to buy players for this season's championship campaign. Cunning eh? Now I understand, Downs and Quarshie have been signed to help us win League 1 next season. Go down in order to carry enough momentum to stay up in the PL after a double promotion. 5
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Chez said: There was a story a few weeks ago about Porto putting in a £20m bid. The same Porto who bought Bednarek. Thinks that's where the link is from.
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Sigh. We all knew it was happening but still depressing to get confirmation I think it's more about whether people will pay what we want. If they do it's nearly £90m in the kitty, and a very similar squad to what we had last time in this League, before any purchases. Edited 1 hour ago by Farmer Saint 1
Matthew Le God Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Sigh. We all knew it was happening but still depressing to get confirmation It is not true It does not meet definition of a fire sale. A "fire sale" is actively looking to sell assets cheaply. That is not what they are doing. 2
Matthew Le God Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 55 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: MLG is working off of FM Ratings, which are hugely skewed in our squad at the moment I find. The FM ratings are my opinion, so I don't base my opinion on the ratings it is the other way round. You say 'at the moment ' but the last FM data you could have seen is from February 2024. Saints FM data 18 months later is very different! 1
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Sigh. We all knew it was happening but still depressing to get confirmation He seems pretty depressed about the state of things. If he's worried then we should be too. 1
UpweySaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: It will be interesting to note if the same thing happens to Ipswich and Leicester. Think so far Ipswich have only lost Delap of any consequence. Morsy maybe too? Leicester despite the perceived financial issues have only lost Vardy who was out of contract anyway. I know the window is only open for another month, but if they escape with their squads pretty much intact from last season it's mot a great look for SR. To be fair I’m not sure who Leicester have who really stood out last season? Fatuwu was brilliant before his injury and their keeper looks good, who else would be wanted by bigger clubs? It’s odd because they probably have a better squad than us but I can’t see too many who bigger clubs would see much value in.
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: He seems pretty depressed about the state of things. If he's worried then we should be too. I don't entirely disagree. Adam is normally a bit of a happy clapper abd only a few days ago he was saying the club can't lose both players. Quite a change.
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Sigh. We all knew it was happening but still depressing to get confirmation 4 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: He seems pretty depressed about the state of things. If he's worried then we should be too. "Depressing", "depressed". Get a grip and stop being wet fannies. We're a championship club. Accept that some players are far too good for this level and will move on. Blackmore has. 1
beatlesaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: It is not true It does not meet definition of a fire sale. A "fire sale" is actively looking to sell assets cheaply. That is not what they are doing. Yes fire sale is a bad choice of words from Blackmore there BUT the sentiment of the post, ie players leaving, rings true,albeit not for small fees.
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, UpweySaint said: To be fair I’m not sure who Leicester have who really stood out last season? Fatuwu was brilliant before his injury and their keeper looks good, who else would be wanted by bigger clubs? It’s odd because they probably have a better squad than us but I can’t see too many who bigger clubs would see much value in. Leicester - Mavadidi, Fatuwu, El Khannouss, Ndidi - No real rumours around them yet tbh but Id expect El Khannouss to go atleast Ipswich - Delap, Hutchinson, Davis ? - Delaps gone, there’s noise around Hutchinson The thing is, for us, we have two very very good youngsters in Dibling and Fernandes, so its fairly obvious they’ll go… of everyone mentioned Id put them two, Khannouss and Delap on similar levels, and Id imagine they’ll all be gone come window close
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, UpweySaint said: To be fair I’m not sure who Leicester have who really stood out last season? Fatuwu was brilliant before his injury and their keeper looks good, who else would be wanted by bigger clubs? It’s odd because they probably have a better squad than us but I can’t see too many who bigger clubs would see much value in. The keeper was supposed to of interest, wouldn't be surprised if someone takes a punt on Faes as well. Possibly a market aboard for some of their squad. 1
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: The same Porto who bought Bednarek. Thinks that's where the link is from. https://the72.co.uk/2025/06/30/southampton-porto-bid-20m-taylor-harwood-bellis/
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, egg said: "Depressing", "depressed". Get a grip and stop being wet fannies. We're a championship club. Accept that some players are far too good for this level and will move on. Blackmore has. I think even more, it's a fucking game, and a pretty shit one that has been stacked in the favour of the big boys for so long that it's just a bit shit. No-one's dying. We're not being starved. Get out and enjoy the smaller things in life and stop getting depressed that we're no longer a mid to lower PL table team. 4
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Yes fire sale is a bad choice of words from Blackmore there BUT the sentiment of the post, ie players leaving, rings true,albeit not for small fees. If clubs were willing to pay, then they were always going to leave, and anyone that thinks differently is mental. 1
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Sigh. We all knew it was happening but still depressing to get confirmation Oh dear, going to be a big dose of midtable reality Shame after all the statements/ promises we have heard
SNSUN Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: The keeper was supposed to of interest, wouldn't be surprised if someone takes a punt on Faes as well. Possibly a market aboard for some of their squad. Faes is awful. I hope he stays there and partners Vestergaard.
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, Chez said: Now I understand, Downs and Quarshie have been signed to help us win League 1 next season. Go down in order to carry enough momentum to stay up in the PL after a double promotion. And no premier league club wanted Ramsdale
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Chez said: https://the72.co.uk/2025/06/30/southampton-porto-bid-20m-taylor-harwood-bellis/ I would say they had the bid rejected and moved onto Bednarek, wouldn't you?
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Oh dear, going to be a big dose of midtable reality Shame after all the statements/ promises we have heard Why mid-table? And what promises? Edited 1 hour ago by Farmer Saint
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, tdmickey3 said: And no premier league club wanted Ramsdale Exactly, £25m was too much for any PL team to gamble. 1
UpweySaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Leicester - Mavadidi, Fatuwu, El Khannouss, Ndidi - No real rumours around them yet tbh but Id expect El Khannouss to go atleast Ipswich - Delap, Hutchinson, Davis ? - Delaps gone, there’s noise around Hutchinson The thing is, for us, we have two very very good youngsters in Dibling and Fernandes, so its fairly obvious they’ll go… of everyone mentioned Id put them two, Khannouss and Delap on similar levels, and Id imagine they’ll all be gone come window close I knew I was forgetting some! El Kanous and Ndidi have both been linked with moves. Curious if either or both are still with them at the end of the window. Isn’t Ndidi meant to have a reasonably low release clause? Presume El Kanous will have a relegation clause too … Faes I struggle with. I can’t decide if he seems worse than he is because he stands out so much on the pitch- if he drops a b*lock it’s hard for him to go under the radar. Much like David Luiz. The only way I see us keeping Dibling is if nobody thinks the gamble on his potential matches the fee we insist on. 1
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said: Why mid-table? Because the squad isn’t going to end up good enough for higher.
bangkoksaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Check out Stoke, Blackburn, Norwich et al. Not being a drama queen, just a realist as I think that’s what’s incoming for us over the foreseeable future. Nothing SR has done illustrates to me that they have the know how to recruit what we need or hang onto the few players that are worthy of wearing our shirt. TBF I’m not that fussed anymore, the PL is shot and the way it’s just about money now has pretty much ruined it for the majority of match going supporters. Just enjoy whatever we get served up.
2Morrow Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Hermansen and el khanouss will leave leicester, vardy retired. Hutchinson, delap will leave Ipswich. Cajuste may return after loan expired Fernandes dibling ramsdale will leave saints. In my opinion that's the three of the better players from each gone. I am sure Leicester and Ipswich at a distance would say they would love Armstrongs 20 plus goals and assists, we know hes not amazing but from the outside maybe he would look it. Lot of the window left, but dibling and fernandes money should in theory fund two new wingers (rak saki and a European unknown) a CAM (i would vote for a championship 'star' like rudoni and throw our weight around the best of the rest) and some minor improvements at the edges (new GK/RB/CM)
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, tdmickey3 said: Because the squad isn’t going to end up good enough for higher. But it's very similar to the one we had 2 years ago, is it not? And we also have the players we bought last season to help us this year.
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Oh dear, going to be a big dose of midtable reality Shame after all the statements/ promises we have heard I'm not sure what you're referring to. It should have been obvious that the big names would go, that a few quid would repay the owners cash input, and that we'd then add a few bodies.
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said: I would say they had the bid rejected and moved onto Bednarek, wouldn't you? Whatever you say Farmer Saint.
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Farmer Saint said: But it's very similar to the one we had 2 years ago, is it not? And we also have the players we bought last season to help us this year. We will see
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, tdmickey3 said: Because the squad isn’t going to end up good enough for higher. Lol Even without TD and MF is comfortably a playoff side at minimum You don’t realise the gulf in quality between prem and champ and the growing gulf growing between the now PL yoyo clubs and rest of the division
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Smirking_Saint said: Lol Even without TD and MF is comfortably a playoff side at minimum You don’t realise the gulf in quality between prem and champ and the growing gulf growing between the now PL yoyo clubs and rest of the division We will see
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chez said: Whatever you say Farmer Saint. Well, would you not? Or are Porto trying to re-create the CB pairing from one of the worst ever PL defences? Edited 1 hour ago by Farmer Saint 1
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, egg said: I'm not sure what you're referring to. It should have been obvious that the big names would go, that a few quid would repay the owners cash input, and that we'd then add a few bodies. I strongly doubt we will add anything decent
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, tdmickey3 said: We will see If and when we do see you’ll be nowhere to be seen with a ‘I was wrong’ Have a sit down, change your bed sheets and lets see where we are in September 1
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: We will see Is it not though? I seem to remember you thought that squad was the best in the League, so where are the big differences?
Saint86 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said: its ok lads, I’m convinced Strongly disagree with this comment. Without dibling and Fernandes replacements (let alone aribo and edozie), we would be criminally short of wide / attacking mid type players for champ automatic contenders. 3
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: We will see So what position do you think we'll finish in?
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 16 minutes ago, egg said: "Depressing", "depressed". Get a grip and stop being wet fannies. We're a championship club. Accept that some players are far too good for this level and will move on. Blackmore has. Odd response. I accepted we would sell the majority of decent players ages ago. Actually losing them is still a negative experience. 1
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Smirking_Saint said: If and when we do see you’ll be nowhere to be seen with a ‘I was wrong’ Have a sit down, change your bed sheets and lets see where we are in September Hahahahaha I am more interested in where we will be at end of season. And I will be here if you want to revisit either way….. Stick to your happy clapping, I will wait for reality 1
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: So what position do you think we'll finish in? Mid table, as I have already said
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, tdmickey3 said: I strongly doubt we will add anything decent Depends on your level of expectation. Some people are not appreciating where we are, and nothing has been promised. Regardless, you shouldn't be surprised that the best players will go, and that any replacement will be of a lower standard.
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