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Love the idea of us spending £20 million on Sargent to get promoted only then for the same people begging for him this year to be demanding another striker who can do it at PL level next year and not grasping the concept of a budget. Also Kieffer fucking Moore 🤣

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1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Love the idea of us spending £20 million on Sargent to get promoted only then for the same people begging for him this year to be demanding another striker who can do it at PL level next year and not grasping the concept of a budget. Also Kieffer fucking Moore 🤣

Yup, agree... Steering clear of the best championship players and scraping through via the play offs is the only way to go... 😉

#footybanter

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

Yup, agree... Steering clear of the best championship players and scraping through via the play offs is the only way to go... 😉

#footybanter

I’m not entirely sure what your point is here? But yeah, we’ve signed some of the best Championship players just this week, along with having a few already, and yeah going up via the play offs would be good 👍

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2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I’m not entirely sure what your point is here?

How many more times do I have to say this...? I don't make 'points'... I just post inane drivel... Which I assume is why I seem to fit in very well on this forum... ;)

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6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Love the idea of us spending £20 million on Sargent to get promoted only then for the same people begging for him this year to be demanding another striker who can do it at PL level next year and not grasping the concept of a budget. Also Kieffer fucking Moore 🤣

It's a balancing act. We need enough to give ourselves a decent chance of going up, but cannot lumber ourselves with players not good enough for the PL with 3 years left on their contracts if we make it. That's why I think decent loans are the way to go - we get we need for this year, and have a clean slate next summer whatever happens this season. 

But yep, if Kiefer Moore is the answer, feck knows what the question is. 

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8 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Love the idea of us spending £20 million on Sargent to get promoted only then for the same people begging for him this year to be demanding another striker who can do it at PL level next year and not grasping the concept of a budget. Also Kieffer fucking Moore 🤣

Loved us to have signed Keiffer Moore , 4 goals in 5 games so far.

What's wrong with having a player like this for a couple of years . 

It's not like he would be our only option

He cost Wrexham 2m . 

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4 minutes ago, trousers said:

How many more times do I have to say this...? I don't make 'points'... I just post inane drivel... Which I assume is why I seem to fit in very well on this forum... ;)

That sounds suspiciously like a point to me 😉 

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3 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Loved us to have signed Keiffer Moore , 4 goals in 5 games so far.

What's wrong with having a player like this for a couple of years . 

It's not like he would be our only option

He cost Wrexham 2m . 

Completely different scenarios. Moore fits Wrexham, they're new to the division from the other way and need a seasoned pro with Champ experience to fit their direct play, they use width and whip crosses into the box constantly. 

We are a team with ambition to go back up, we have a lot of slight/nimble attackers in and around the box and we currently don't whip huge amounts of balls into the box - so the chances are is that he'd have been really ineffective for us, he'd have looked like a pub player and fans would have been throwing Spors under the bus for signing him.

It's also 4 games. He's not scored double figures at this level since 2019. He really isn't as good as is being made out here, he's a bog average bottom half Champ player.

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7 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Loved us to have signed Keiffer Moore , 4 goals in 5 games so far.

What's wrong with having a player like this for a couple of years . 

It's not like he would be our only option

He cost Wrexham 2m . 

Sorry, I don't buy that. That's hindsight talking.

People would have been up in arms if we'd put our hopes in a 33 year old who scored 5 league goals last year, 7 the year before, and a total of 9 across the 3 seasons before. 

Don't try and tell me that you wanted us to sign a bloke who'd scored 21 league goals in 5 seasons. That's bollox. 

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10 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Completely different scenarios. Moore fits Wrexham, they're new to the division from the other way and need a seasoned pro with Champ experience to fit their direct play, they use width and whip crosses into the box constantly. 

We are a team with ambition to go back up, we have a lot of slight/nimble attackers in and around the box and we currently don't whip huge amounts of balls into the box - so the chances are is that he'd have been really ineffective for us, he'd have looked like a pub player and fans would have been throwing Spors under the bus for signing him.

It's also 4 games. He's not scored double figures at this level since 2019. He really isn't as good as is being made out here, he's a bog average bottom half Champ player.

It's difficult to disagree that Moore would not be somebody we'd want to sign. However, I do think our approach will change once we have the new signings integrated and what you describe above about using width and crossing into the box is exactly what Tom Fellows brings to the party. My concern is that we don't the have the "right" centre forward to take advantage of those sort of crosses, as I can't see Archer scoring too many with his head. Stewart would be the obvious choice of our 4, but I get the impression that Still only plays him towards the end of the league games. 

So, while I agree Moore wouldn't be the answer, it's going to be interesting to see how we leverage the approach that Tom Fellows will give us.  

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I think ultimately it will end up being Downs. The lad has goals in him just hasn't got up and running. Good physical traits too.

I don't hink we invest the money we did without a view to play him regularly.

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13 minutes ago, egg said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. That's hindsight talking.

People would have been up in arms if we'd put our hopes in a 33 year old who scored 5 league goals last year, 7 the year before, and a total of 9 across the 3 seasons before. 

Don't try and tell me that you wanted us to sign a bloke who'd scored 21 league goals in 5 seasons. That's bollox. 

something something everyone said that about rickie lambert etc etc etc

5 goals in 27 league games for a team that were one of the best 3 in the league last year. 5 goals. 5. 

This is not a return that this forum would call acceptable if that player was called, I don't know, Che Adams.

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36 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Love the idea of us spending £20 million on Sargent to get promoted only then for the same people begging for him this year to be demanding another striker who can do it at PL level next year and not grasping the concept of a budget. Also Kieffer fucking Moore 🤣

Let's get promoted first and then worry about a striker after that. Incidentally, you have no idea whether Sargent will be a success or not in the PL now as a mature striker rather than an unproven young man. I bet you he is more likely to make the grade there in a seasons time than Downs 

We all get the concept of a budget. SRs problem in the past is that they have gone for quantity (often unproven) over quality. Spaffing 40 million on Sulkemana and Onuachu possibly the epitome of that.

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5 minutes ago, Hopper said:

I think ultimately it will end up being Downs. The lad has goals in him just hasn't got up and running. Good physical traits too.

I don't hink we invest the money we did without a view to play him regularly.

And you know he has goals in him, how?

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I think the strike against Espanyol shows he's got goals there...

But to a degree scoring goals is about luck. Jay has scored one this season, but how many times has he hit the post?

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The reality is that we won't be getting a striker unless we shift AA and perhaps BBD. Likely will only be a loan, and only if a good enough player becomes available on the last day.

Otherwise we're looking to shift Edozie, Smallbone, Bree and Aribo to bring in the new RB on loan and LW from Germany. Not sure why the Edozie deal is taking so long now Brugge have qualified for the CL but he needs to hurry up and go so we can get a replacement in. 

Otherwise I think that's it for transfers. Our CBs should be good enough to challenge top 2 in this league despite the performances so far, and most of our strikers again are proven at this level.

The one position where we are weak is GK. Persisting with Bazunu who is statistically one of, if not the worst goalkeeper in the league is criminal. You know that 99% of the time, he won't save a decent shot, leaving us overly reliant on our defenders—while other teams can count on their goalkeepers to bail them out from one or two big chances per game. Just have to hope that it doesn't hurt us too much and we rectify in January either from a loan, or if possible by recalling Ramsdale. 

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12 minutes ago, TheSoundman said:

I think the strike against Espanyol shows he's got goals there...

But to a degree scoring goals is about luck. Jay has scored one this season, but how many times has he hit the post?

That's because he's aiming for it. Seriously,  it's a psychological thing.

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3 minutes ago, Bobsmith said:

The reality is that we won't be getting a striker unless we shift AA and perhaps BBD. Likely will only be a loan, and only if a good enough player becomes available on the last day.

Otherwise we're looking to shift Edozie, Smallbone, Bree and Aribo to bring in the new RB on loan and LW from Germany. Not sure why the Edozie deal is taking so long now Brugge have qualified for the CL but he needs to hurry up and go so we can get a replacement in. 

Otherwise I think that's it for transfers. Our CBs should be good enough to challenge top 2 in this league despite the performances so far, and most of our strikers again are proven at this level.

The one position where we are weak is GK. Persisting with Bazunu who is statistically one of, if not the worst goalkeeper in the league is criminal. You know that 99% of the time, he won't save a decent shot, leaving us overly reliant on our defenders—while other teams can count on their goalkeepers to bail them out from one or two big chances per game. Just have to hope that it doesn't hurt us too much and we rectify in January either from a loan, or if possible by recalling Ramsdale. 

🤣😂😅

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22 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

And you know he has goals in him, how?

His senior record at Koln was 0.5 goals per 90 minutes played or 1 in 2.

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Read the wrong season's stats
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43 minutes ago, egg said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. That's hindsight talking.

People would have been up in arms if we'd put our hopes in a 33 year old who scored 5 league goals last year, 7 the year before, and a total of 9 across the 3 seasons before. 

Don't try and tell me that you wanted us to sign a bloke who'd scored 21 league goals in 5 seasons. That's bollox. 

If we are 'getting into the mixer', and waiting till we have proper 'wingers', Moore would suit our system infinitely better than Armstrong and/or Downs....the ball certainly would not be coming back from the forward line as frequently as it does into a wide open midfield.

Anyway, it is what it is

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7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

If we are 'getting into the mixer', and waiting till we have proper 'wingers', Moore would suit our system infinitely better than Armstrong and/or Downs....the ball certainly would not be coming back from the forward line as frequently as it does into a wide open midfield.

Anyway, it is what it is

Mate, we'd have pissed ourselves laughing if Pompey had signed Moore. Now people are devastated that he's gone to Wrexham. 

Hypocrisy and BS boil my piss. 

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Just now, egg said:

Mate, we'd have pissed ourselves laughing if Pompey had signed Moore. Now people are devastated that he's gone to Wrexham. 

Hypocrisy and BS boil my piss. 

I get that, but the club does not particularly signs players based on the reaction of SaintsWeb.

we'll probably get fellows to whack in crosses to players not particular suited for the aerial game

 

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53 minutes ago, egg said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. That's hindsight talking.

People would have been up in arms if we'd put our hopes in a 33 year old who scored 5 league goals last year, 7 the year before, and a total of 9 across the 3 seasons before. 

Don't try and tell me that you wanted us to sign a bloke who'd scored 21 league goals in 5 seasons. That's bollox. 

Just see as a fairly cheap ( to sign) option . 

Not necessarily a player you are going to rely on every game. 

He cost a quarter of what we paid for Downs. 

I appreciate he's not exactly prolific but he was a regular starter/coming off the bench player for Sheff Utd last season who got 92 points. 

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14 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Are we really at the point where people are saying we should have signed Moore? 
 

Fucking hell:mcinnes: 

No, we are at the point of saying that 2 season after Che Adams left we have not replaced him and as a target man are dependent upon someone with a handful of matches in 3 seasons and someone starting their career with no experience in this country.

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2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

we'll probably get fellows to whack in crosses to players not particular suited for the aerial game

 

It’s amazing really that he managed to be so good at West Brom crossing to Maja, Grant, Wallace and Diangana. 
 

Not a single one of them over 6 foot. 
 

Maybe they should have signed Moore. :lol:

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8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I get that, but the club does not particularly signs players based on the reaction of SaintsWeb.

we'll probably get fellows to whack in crosses to players not particular suited for the aerial game

 

Not all crosses need to be 7ft in the air.

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Wet spam looking at their fan boy for another SFC player??

Still’s brilliant response to West Ham move for second Saints star
West Ham are hoping Fernandes can help turn the club’s season around after a dismal start.


Southampton have been using the £41m coming on from the Hammers to make additions for their push to return to the Premier League.

Still has been touted as a future West Ham manager.

Majority owner David Sullivan has previously stated ‘never say never’ about Still becoming Hammers boss one day, once he has more experience.

One thing is for certain, the 32-year-old is ensuring he has good relations with the West Ham hierarchy.

Now Still has issued a brilliant response to a West Ham move for a second Southampton star.

Nayef Aguerd has refused to play for West Ham at Nottingham Forest as he tries to force a move to Marseille.

Still said about West Ham interest in Harwood-Bellis

But he made it clear he doesn’t expect Harwood-Bellis to be sold as things stand and sent a playful warning to his beloved Hammers.

Although West Ham will note he said something similar about Fernandes at the start of that particular saga.

“They want another one of our players?!” Still said.

“I don’t think Taylor was ever for sale, to be honest.

“I love West Ham, but stay off him!”

Harwood-Bellis came through at Man City before being sold to Southampton for £15m.

The 23-year-old centre-back has been linked with a move to east London for some time.

But it seems unlikely Still is willing to let him go at this late stage of the window, making a West Ham move for Cresswell more likely.

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We need a new GK before we even think about a number 9. 

Bazunu is an absolute liability. His injury last time round saved our season and we’ve gone back in this year with the same Achilles heal (no pun intended) which has already cost us 3 points this season. 

I cannot believe we were in the market for a new keeper and we’ve picked up one that’s worse than the other 2 idiots we have… after seeing against Stoke what a decent keeper can do. 

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Just now, Dman said:

We need a new GK before we even think about a number 9. 

Bazunu is an absolute liability. His injury last time round saved our season and we’ve gone back in this year with the same Achilles heal (no pun intended) which has already cost us 3 points this season. 

I cannot believe we were in the market for a new keeper and we’ve picked up one that’s worse than the other 2 idiots we have… after seeing against Stoke what a decent keeper can do. 

That same Stoke keeper who chucked one in yesterday. 

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6 minutes ago, Appy said:

That same Stoke keeper who chucked one in yesterday. 

Another keeper making a mistake doesn't mean that Bazunu is good enough to be our #1. Behave. 

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24 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I get that, but the club does not particularly signs players based on the reaction of SaintsWeb.

we'll probably get fellows to whack in crosses to players not particular suited for the aerial game

 

The last bit I'm with you on. I watch the Fellows highlights reel and question how his crossing ability helps us. However, the point remains that nobody, if they're being honest, went into the transfer window hoping and praying that we'd sign Kieffer Moore. Not even Kieffer Moore. 

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24 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Just see as a fairly cheap ( to sign) option . 

Not necessarily a player you are going to rely on every game. 

He cost a quarter of what we paid for Downs. 

I appreciate he's not exactly prolific but he was a regular starter/coming off the bench player for Sheff Utd last season who got 92 points. 

You're saying that with hindsight. If he'd been at crap at Wrexham as he's been for the last few seasons, you wouldn't have said that we should have signed him. I'd bet you all the pies at St Mary's that you didn't say it at the start of the window either. 

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5 minutes ago, egg said:

The last bit I'm with you on. I watch the Fellows highlights reel and question how his crossing ability helps us. However, the point remains that nobody, if they're being honest, went into the transfer window hoping and praying that we'd sign Kieffer Moore. Not even Kieffer Moore. 

It doesn't have to be Moore. But it is obvious that Still likes to play with wingers and our two central striker options are a perennially injured striker whose fitness cannot be counted upon and a young striker who has never played in this country. That is a risk that we cannot afford.

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11 minutes ago, Bobsmith said:

Another keeper making a mistake doesn't mean that Bazunu is good enough to be our #1. Behave. 

Oh absolutely not, but Johansson also isn’t the prime Buffon this forum seems to think he is. I don’t rate Bazunu. 

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1 minute ago, Appy said:

Oh absolutely not, but Johansson also isn’t the prime Buffon this forum seems to think he is. I don’t rate Bazunu. 

Fair enough. I'd agree that Johansson isn't necessarily what we need permanently, but he would be an upgrade on Bazunu and a competent #2 in the PL. 

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56 minutes ago, Hopper said:

His senior record at Koln was 0.5 goals per 90 minutes played or 1 in 2.

They say that people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost, for support rather than illumination.

If you ignore junior football he scored 13 in 42. Less than 1 in 3.

 

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11 minutes ago, egg said:

You're saying that with hindsight. If he'd been at crap at Wrexham as he's been for the last few seasons, you wouldn't have said that we should have signed him. I'd bet you all the pies at St Mary's that you didn't say it at the start of the window either. 

Nope fair do's your right ,  I have said this with the benefit of hindsight. 

Just think a cheapish deadline day target man style player could help us out. 

More importantly you've just made think of a Chicken Balti pie from the concourse....mmm..lovely. 

 

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12 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

They say that people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost, for support rather than illumination.

If you ignore junior football he scored 13 in 42. Less than 1 in 3.

 

About the same as the prolific Moore’s then 😪

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So who is going to be the final boss in the marketing player unveiling videos......

Seems like a perfect opportunity to unveil one more marquee signing that will make this forum meltdown. 🤣

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3 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

So who is going to be the final boss in the marketing player unveiling videos......

Seems like a perfect opportunity to unveil one more marquee signing that will make this forum meltdown. 🤣

Kieffer moore obviously 

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