Off season fun - international tournament memories

[benjii]

Hi Saints fans!

Let's talk international tournament highlights. For me:

- Italia 90

The first tournament I was old enough to properly watch and understand, and coincided with first season going to The Dell. So many iconic moments and images:

The England shell suit

The opening match upset and Cameroon's "tackles"

The San Siro

Pavarotti

Baggio v Yugoslavia

Roger Milla and his funny dance

Platt v Belgium

Toto Schillachi

Gazza and Lineker v Cameroon

Germany being ruthlessly efficient and jammy bastards

Chris Waddles pelanty 

Maradonna crying 

 

Then, a bit of a 6 year wasteland due to England being shite...

- Euro 96

Home summer tournament. 14 years old. Magic. Fucking Germans again.

- France 98

Despite Hoddle being a cunt to MLT... Top football: Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Cafu, Thuram, Viera, Petit, Zidane, Henry...  the amazing match against Argentina. Beckham's highs and lows. Owen's ridiculous emergence into the big time with that goal.

- Jap / S Korea 2002

At uni, so watching matches in Walkabout at breakfast time was not a problem. Revenge on the Argies (sorry Poch). Being proud of England even though we screwed up. Ronaldo's redemption. All dayers and pulling birds. Magic.

 

Since then, all a bit meh. 

 

Edited June 8 by benjii

[Green]

Similar timeline to me. I sometimes wonder if I would have loved football as much as I did if I hadn’t had Italia 90 as my first major tournament in my football supporting liftetime.

I would also add that I quite enjoyed 2018 with England getting to the semi finals again. 

Other than that some unremarkable tournaments that merge into one. I have an excellent recall of what happened 35 years ago, where I was, who I watched it with but ask me what happened 3.5 days ago and I’d be struggling with the detail. 

[AlexLaw76]

Italia 90 is what it was all about

The music just summed it all up

[The Kraken]

Overall, the actual games in Italia 90 were fairly dreadful. Obviously England getting so far, New Order, the general filming of it all, everything made it a competition that many remember so fondly.  But there was a record low number of goals scored across the tournament and many attribute it as one of the biggest contributors to the bringing in of the backpass law.

I loved Italia 90, right down to the goal nets, but the tournament as a whole is certainly viewed through rose tinted specs.

1986 was a real occasion, I remember watching much of it but not really old enough to fully appreciate it. USA 94 crap for many reasons, mostly us not being in it, but just a soulless experience. France 98 was brilliant right up to Beckham acting the twat.

Edited June 8 by The Kraken

[benjii]

8 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Overall, the actual games in Italia 90 were fairly dreadful. Obviously England getting so far, New Order, the general filming of it all, everything made it a competition that many remember so fondly.  But there was a record low number of goals scored across the tournament and many attribute it as one of the biggest contributors to the bringing in of the backpass law.

I loved Italia 90, right down to the goal nets, but the tournament as a whole is certainly viewed through rose tinted specs.

1986 was a real occasion, I remember watching much of it but not really old enough to fully appreciate it. USA 94 crap for many reasons, mostly us not being in it, but just a soulless experience. France 98 was brilliant right up to Beckham acting the twat.

Yes, I'm sure you're right about the football in Italia 90. I was 8 so I remember the "moments" but wasn't a sophisticated enough connoisseur to opine on the football overall!

I remember 94 being crap. Crap venues. Crap heat. Crap matches. Crao Dianno Ross pelanty.

Too young for 86.

Loved 98.

[bugenhagen]

Nice topic Benji!

For me 86 was the big one. Danish Dynamite, Elkjær and Laudrup, Maradona and the Hand of God, France v Brazil, Platini and Tigana, Socrates and Zico, Gary Lineker top scorer. My love of the game started here. 

90 was also special with England and Baggio. 94 mostly beacause Norway made it (at Englands expense). 

In 98 I was in the army, but when Norway beat Brazil it felt like all of Norway was out dancing in the streets (something we never do) in the midnight sun. 

In 2010 I was lucky enough to travel and attend 6 games in South Africa. Could have done without the vuvuzela, but other than that pretty magical experience. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

"It shall never catch on," I said in my FO report, after watching Rimet hand over a trophy in Montevideo.

[benjii]

 

 

Edited June 8 by benjii

[benjii]

 

 

[Teamsaint1]

I was at the jnfamous “Tear Gassed in Turin” game against Belgium in 1980 

My only trip abroad to watch England.Got out of Turin the following  day. We were used to trouble at games in those days,  but I had seen enough.

Great goal by Ray Wilkins though.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

My 1982 World Cup immersion was the stuff that only someone with an endless, warm, summer holiday, a fresh set of felt tips for tracking player and team info, and friends to play football with between games could have.

[benjii]

10 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

My 1982 World Cup immersion was the stuff that only someone with an endless, warm, summer holiday, a fresh set of felt tips for tracking player and team info, and friends to play football with between games could have.

Sounds like my 1990. Wall charts, books, sticker albums, out on the BMX, jumpers for goalposts, bottle of squash, scab on the knee, footy shirt, what's that in the bush - porno mag?, white dog turds, Marathon bar, Opal Fruits, Bond on before and after the News at Ten. Night, night.

[Badger]

1970.

Nothing comes close to the sense of excitement and expectation that I had as a child for that. It wasn’t just a World Cup, it was our World Cup that was being played for.

I was too young in 1966 so 1970 was the first I had an interest in. The weeks before pestering my Dad for the Esso coins of the squad. 
 

I always look back on it as a ‘pure’ World Cup when the team went there as OUR team,a team of heroes. I hadn’t developed club rivalries then. When we next got there 1982 there was an indifference to Utd, Liverpool, Spurs players. 
 

Seems an innocent bygone age. Close to tears when we lost to Brazil, and then West Germany. But I’d get it out of my system by kicking a ball around with a mate in the back garden after. Or if he wasn’t available, then a match v our dog.  (Realised years later that if we’d had penalty shoot outs in those days, the dog would have won), 
 

[The Kraken]

12 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

My 1982 World Cup immersion was the stuff that only someone with an endless, warm, summer holiday, a fresh set of felt tips for tracking player and team info, and friends to play football with between games could have.

My first ever panini sticker book that one, when we were living in Germany. Had to send off for Karl Heinz Rummenigge and Zico (amongst a few others), they were like gold dust.

[Badger]

1970’s were interesting though England didn’t qualify.

1974 - Cruyff, Dutch ‘total football’.

1978 - ticker tape welcomes etc. Ardiles coming to England that summer. Our domestic game had changed forever.

In 1974 we were all supporting Scotland. In 1978 after Ally McCleod’s bragging (“ Scotland will definitely come back with a medal ..”) it was different and many were amused by how bad they were. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Just now, The Kraken said:

My first ever panini sticker book that one, when we were living in Germany. Had to send off for Karl Heinz Rummenigge and Zico (amongst a few others), they were like gold dust.

Oh the sticker book!

We were all healthier kids because all the money we got for sweets went on Panini stickers.🙂

We didn't keep them as kids, but I made sure to get a complete album off eBay years ago. 🙂

[Holmes_and_Watson]

9 minutes ago, benjii said:

Sounds like my 1990. Wall charts, books, sticker albums, out on the BMX, jumpers for goalposts, bottle of squash, scab on the knee, footy shirt, what's that in the bush - porno mag?, white dog turds, Marathon bar, Opal Fruits, Bond on before and after the News at Ten. Night, night.

You were fine up to then, you deviant 🙂

[AlexLaw76]

Whilst 1990 will forever be the seminal football tournament for me, a nod to Euro 96. I genuinely thought we were going to win it after the Scotland game. We were at home, the anthem, Wembley was just so loud and everyone was behind it. And just… Gazza!

For the length of a football stud, FFs!

[Lighthouse]

8 hours ago, benjii said:

- Jap / S Korea 2002

At uni, so watching matches in Walkabout at breakfast time was not a problem. Revenge on the Argies (sorry Poch). Being proud of England even though we screwed up. Ronaldo's redemption. All dayers and pulling birds. Magic.

That tournament had one of the all time great Saints WC moments.

 

[Convict Colony]

8 hours ago, benjii said:

Hi Saints fans!

Let's talk international tournament highlights. For me:

- Italia 90

The first tournament I was old enough to properly watch and understand, and coincided with first season going to The Dell. So many iconic moments and images:

The England shell suit

The opening match upset and Cameroon's "tackles"

The San Siro

Pavarotti

Baggio v Yugoslavia

Roger Milla and his funny dance

Platt v Belgium

Toto Schillachi

Gazza and Lineker v Cameroon

Germany being ruthlessly efficient and jammy bastards

Chris Waddles pelanty 

Maradonna crying 

 

Then, a bit of a 6 year wasteland due to England being shite...

- Euro 96

Home summer tournament. 14 years old. Magic. Fucking Germans again.

- France 98

Despite Hoddle being a cunt to MLT... Top football: Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Cafu, Thuram, Viera, Petit, Zidane, Henry...  the amazing match against Argentina. Beckham's highs and lows. Owen's ridiculous emergence into the big time with that goal.

- Jap / S Korea 2002

At uni, so watching matches in Walkabout at breakfast time was not a problem. Revenge on the Argies (sorry Poch). Being proud of England even though we screwed up. Ronaldo's redemption. All dayers and pulling birds. Magic.

 

Since then, all a bit meh. 

 

Ronaldinho lobbing seamen over 40yards.

Havent seen a performance like it since carnival.

[Football Special]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

Sounds like my 1990. Wall charts, books, sticker albums, out on the BMX, jumpers for goalposts, bottle of squash, scab on the knee, footy shirt, what's that in the bush - porno mag?, white dog turds, Marathon bar, Opal Fruits, Bond on before and after the News at Ten. Night, night.

This was the best, I was around the same age, whole thing was magic 

[John Boy Saint]

4 hours ago, benjii said:

 

Always liked this one

 

Edited June 8 by John Boy Saint

[Wade Garrett]

First sticker book was World Cup 78.

82 in Spain was brilliant - Marco Tardelli and Schumacher nearly killing Battiston.

Italy beating the amazing Brazilians 3-2 remains one of the best games I’ve seen.

[Midfield_General]

14 hours ago, benjii said:

Sounds like my 1990. Wall charts, books, sticker albums, out on the BMX, jumpers for goalposts, bottle of squash, scab on the knee, footy shirt, what's that in the bush - porno mag?, white dog turds, Marathon bar, Opal Fruits, Bond on before and after the News at Ten. Night, night.

[whelk]

We went to all Italia 90 knockout games.. Great memories. Using Interail ticket to overcome the booze ban zig-zagging Italy/Europe. Touts couldn’t sell tickets cheap enough for the Cameroon game in Naples- less than a tenner. When football was still pretty much lads only. Although was loads of National Front cunts in England mob. Back then we’d have battered the Russians.

Rimini was fun too. Italian police fucking nowhere to be seen before rounding up any England fans they could find.  Half our hotel deported

[Midfield_General]

On 08/06/2025 at 18:27, Teamsaint1 said:

I was at the jnfamous “Tear Gassed in Turin” game against Belgium in 1980 

My only trip abroad to watch England.Got out of Turin the following  day. We were used to trouble at games in those days,  but I had seen enough.

Great goal by Ray Wilkins though.

I got tear gassed in Marseille at England vs. Tunisia in 1998.

The planning for that match was like it had been scientifically calibrated to guarantee as much crowd trouble as possible. England, with their notorious hooligan following, have been drawn to play Tunisia, so let's play it in Marseille, which has the biggest North African population in France outside Paris, including 128,000 Tunisians, and where half the police are of North African descent. Chuck in a baking hot day and a 2.30pm kick off time allowing plenty of time for a load of wankers to get tanked up and boom. Carnage. 

Edited June 9 by Midfield_General

[Gloucester Saint]

First football memory (sadly too young for Keegan/Ball/Channon magic 1980-2) was in France on a holiday watching Robson’s fastest ever WC goal v France and I remember them scoring and Robson’s header for the second. Took some interest in the rest of WC 1982 including the Keegan/Brooking fitness saga, Schumacher’s assault which outraged my parents and the wonderful Brazil team.

My club interest didn’t emerge until 1983/4 and 1984/5, so Euro 1984 didn’t really engage me but WC 1986 in Mexico (not realising they hosted again since 1970 because Colombia couldn’t build the stadiums) I was fully immersed and with my Ladybird guide to the tournament and stadia. I remember the Portugal defeat (the scorer fell on us over-running the Milton wall at Nick Holmes testimonial v Benfica the following year), Wilkins red card and then the essential 3-0 over Poland, Lineker’s hat-trick, congas on the terraces. Beat Paraguay and then the infamous Hand of God followed by probably the probably the best goal I’ve ever seen.

Euro 1988 was the marvellous Dutch team, England were woeful, Robson did his shoulder and Lineker had hepatitis. 

Italia 90 was iconic as other posters have said, Euro 92 Shearer’s miss v France and the infamous Lineker substitution v Sweden which astonished a country. USA 94 was alright, finished my GCSEs so plenty of time to watch it. Hagi, Stoichkov, Valderrama, Baggio, final spoiled it a bit. Euro 96 and France 98 were both great.

[benjii]

8 hours ago, whelk said:

We went to all Italia 90 knockout games.. Great memories. Using Interail ticket to overcome the booze ban zig-zagging Italy/Europe. Touts couldn’t sell tickets cheap enough for the Cameroon game in Naples- less than a tenner. When football was still pretty much lads only. Although was loads of National Front cunts in England mob. Back then we’d have battered the Russians.

Rimini was fun too. Italian police fucking nowhere to be seen before rounding up any England fans they could find.  Half our hotel deported

Amazing! Jealous. 

[whelk]

4 hours ago, benjii said:

Amazing! Jealous. 

Looking back it is hard to think how we organised ourselves to know where the games were, get tickets etc. as no mobiles or internet

[bugenhagen]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Looking back it is hard to think how we organised ourselves to know where the games were, get tickets etc. as no mobiles or internet

Didn't we have to move a flower pot with a red flag in our window or balcony? Then the other guy would mark a mailbox nearby to indicate they had got the message. Followed by a drop-off behind a bench on the local ferry or something... 

Edited Monday at 23:20 by bugenhagen
Typo

[Football Special]

22 hours ago, whelk said:

We went to all Italia 90 knockout games.. Great memories. Using Interail ticket to overcome the booze ban zig-zagging Italy/Europe. Touts couldn’t sell tickets cheap enough for the Cameroon game in Naples- less than a tenner. When football was still pretty much lads only. Although was loads of National Front cunts in England mob. Back then we’d have battered the Russians.

Rimini was fun too. Italian police fucking nowhere to be seen before rounding up any England fans they could find.  Half our hotel deported

As a kid I loved that era, stay up late to watch the football, then up early to put the news on for footage of troubling scenes involving England fans and images of deported fans walking through the airport with t-shirts pulled over their heads 

[east-stand-nic]

Argentina 1978 first for me. For some reason i supported Tunisia, which was cool because they lasted about as long as England normally do. So i was set up for a lack of disappointment for years to come.

1982 - That 3-2 Ital Brazil game. Brazil that year were the best I had ever seen. As ever, England flattered to deceive and had no real goal threat. Two nil nil games and it was Au revoir.

1986, my first WC in the privacy of my own bedroom with an old black and white TV. The hand of god and our disallowed goal was the time I started to realise football was corrupt and everyone hated England. Maradona was ace though to be fair.

1990, total heart break. The worst I had felt after a game since Highbury 84. No other real memories for me. And that was that until 96 Euro's which i watched and 98 WC, then that was enough for me and I can honestly say I have probably watched no more than 3 or 4 WC games since. 

[John Boy Saint]

On 09/06/2025 at 23:02, whelk said:

Looking back it is hard to think how we organised ourselves to know where the games were, get tickets etc. as no mobiles or internet

I have that having to work North London again - I use sat nav more for the timings to customers and some new roads - I've pulled up at many a customer and recognised the vicinity and where old customers were back in 1987-92 and I think how the bloody hell did I find my way to these tucked away places, armed only with the paper back sized  A-Z with tiny print and felt tips marking which road I needed to be on!

Probably why today my in built geolocation is part homing Pigeon, folk get in my car and are amazed I just drive to where we are going 100's of miles away sat nav free, when they query it I often ask how are you going to get anywhere if someone turns off all the satellites? Very few youngsters know how to use a traditional map.

[benjii]

Flipping heck.

I'd forgotten how bad that minute of football was after the kick off. Absolutely cowardly.

 

[malcolm waldron]

I can remember vividly the key moments throughout England's route to the semi-final in 1990 - McMahon's error against RoI, Gazza's trickery against Holland (as I'm sure they were still known as then), Mark Wright with a plaster on his eyebrow nodding the winner against Egypt in a dreadful match - followed by the excitement and agony of the knock-out stages. Yet ask me who we played in 2018 and 2022 and I'll need to google it. 

[ant]

5 hours ago, benjii said:

Flipping heck.

I'd forgotten how bad that minute of football was after the kick off. Absolutely cowardly.

 

Can quite clearly see Zidane vom just before taking the penalty.

[Yorkshire Saint]

Genuinely feel James should save the 1st one and stay on his feet for the 2nd. 

That's a skate for you. 

[S-Clarke]

7 hours ago, benjii said:

Flipping heck.

I'd forgotten how bad that minute of football was after the kick off. Absolutely cowardly.

 

That is one game that made me feel sick for a few days, it was pretty bad.

As a tournament as a whole though, Euro 04 lives in my memory. Loved it, brings back some amazing memories for me. I guess we all have a tournament that leaves similar feelings, probably showing my age!

[SNSUN]

I was at Boarding School, 1998, doing A-Levels when the World Cup was on. My school had a Sixth Form Club which meant Sixth Formers had a place to go and drink alcohol at the weekends (the other option was Reading). However as it was a special occasion they opened it up on the Tuesday of the England vs Argentina game. We still had to do an hour of homework, at which point there was a mad rush to get to the club to secure the best seats in front of the giant TV. I have never won anything in my life, let alone anything athletic, but somehow through sheer will I got a front row seat to watch that match. Great atmosphere too. Alcohol was flying when Owen scored his goal.

[Miltonaggro]

I went right off international football when Venables and Hoddle were managing England with all the favouritism and press bullshit plus treatment of MLT when he was world class, and never really been too bothered since.  However, the preceding Robson era was terrific, in terms of the personalities, football, and following England abroad - '86 and '90 world cups the stand out and completely unique.  But for me, the tournament that best sticks in the memory was the 82 World Cup in Spain.  Either Shoot magazine or Texaco petrol gave away this tournament disc which you could turn to reveal squad members, Saints were represented by Dave Watson #5 and Kevin Keegan #7 in an incredibly strong squad - an invincibles moment. Then in the run up to the tournament Admiral reveal that cracking new England kit, coveted by kids all over the country, the red away is still a thing of sublime beauty.  In my youthful enthusiasm I genuinely thought we were nailed on to win it.  Going into the tournament both Watson and Keegan were injured, and though the likes of Bryan Robson played out of his skin in the first game against that brilliant France side (3-1 and quickest goal in WC history) it went flat against Germany and Spain in the latter stages and even the return of the talisman KK had no effect.  Looking back a typical England tournament, but loved that England side which gave us Shilton and Mills a few months later.     

     

[Badger]

20 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

I went right off international football when Venables and Hoddle were managing England with all the favouritism and press bullshit plus treatment of MLT when he was world class, and never really been too bothered since.  However, the preceding Robson era was terrific, in terms of the personalities, football, and following England abroad - '86 and '90 world cups the stand out and completely unique.  But for me, the tournament that best sticks in the memory was the 82 World Cup in Spain.  Either Shoot magazine or Texaco petrol gave away this tournament disc which you could turn to reveal squad members, Saints were represented by Dave Watson #5 and Kevin Keegan #7 in an incredibly strong squad - an invincibles moment. Then in the run up to the tournament Admiral reveal that cracking new England kit, coveted by kids all over the country, the red away is still a thing of sublime beauty.  In my youthful enthusiasm I genuinely thought we were nailed on to win it.  Going into the tournament both Watson and Keegan were injured, and though the likes of Bryan Robson played out of his skin in the first game against that brilliant France side (3-1 and quickest goal in WC history) it went flat against Germany and Spain in the latter stages and even the return of the talisman KK had no effect.  Looking back a typical England tournament, but loved that England side which gave us Shilton and Mills a few months later.     

     

1982 had its moments, although it was played as I remember just after the Falklands War so that was a bit of distraction. ( All delighted when the Argies lost their opening game). 

Some great moments early stages, was it Brazil v Italy with some spectacular goals ? Brazil looked great at one point.

Schumachers assault stands the test of time.

But they bollocksed the format up with a second group stage of groups of three. Teams seemed to play not to lose. Really stagnated the format. Never repeated. 

[Turkish]

For those, like me, who remember italia 90 romantically if this doesn’t make you nostalgic I don’t know what will so many memories 

 

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

One day we'll all look back at the 2025 Club World Cup with fond memories similar to those on this thread. Got a feeling Tunis v Chelsea is going to be a classic with the whole nation behind the blues attempting to get out of the group stage with a potential QF with Hilal at stake. Going to be magical stuff.

[The Kraken]

Was listening to the radio earlier about it, it’s so utterly grubby, in fact corruption in plain sight.

From the Guardian….

It is no secret that the Club World Cup would not be happening in the way it is now happening without Dazn. In December 2024 Dazn offered Fifa a jaw-dropping $1bn (£787m) for the broadcast rights, all the more startling in a market that was, to that point, also Uncontested.

A month later Saudi Arabia concluded its own deal to buy a 10% stake in Dazn in return for – guess what – another $1bn. Two months after that Fifa announced its vast tournament prize fund, also, by coincidence, $1bn, thereby ensuring full compliance from its invited guests.

In the middle of this, around the time the soon-to-be-Saudi-part-owned Dazn was concluding its Fifa TV rights deal, Fifa awarded the 2034 World Cup to Saudi Arabia via a show of Uncontested applause from its members, thereby completing what is no doubt an entirely illusory circle of hand-washing.

[Midfield_General]

On 13/06/2025 at 19:37, Miltonaggro said:

I went right off international football when Venables and Hoddle were managing England with all the favouritism and press bullshit plus treatment of MLT when he was world class, and never really been too bothered since.  However, the preceding Robson era was terrific, in terms of the personalities, football, and following England abroad - '86 and '90 world cups the stand out and completely unique.  But for me, the tournament that best sticks in the memory was the 82 World Cup in Spain.  Either Shoot magazine or Texaco petrol gave away this tournament disc which you could turn to reveal squad members, Saints were represented by Dave Watson #5 and Kevin Keegan #7 in an incredibly strong squad - an invincibles moment. Then in the run up to the tournament Admiral reveal that cracking new England kit, coveted by kids all over the country, the red away is still a thing of sublime beauty.  In my youthful enthusiasm I genuinely thought we were nailed on to win it.  Going into the tournament both Watson and Keegan were injured, and though the likes of Bryan Robson played out of his skin in the first game against that brilliant France side (3-1 and quickest goal in WC history) it went flat against Germany and Spain in the latter stages and even the return of the talisman KK had no effect.  Looking back a typical England tournament, but loved that England side which gave us Shilton and Mills a few months later.     

     

This man is 33 years old. 7 years younger than Cristiano Ronaldo. 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Midfield_General

[Miltonaggro]

22 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

This man is 33 years old

 

Yep and Bobby Robson let’s him go to saints as over the hill, and promptly becomes England manager the next month! Never played for England again but 120 odd games in the following 3 seasons for SFC suggests he still had some lead in the pencil! 

[whelk]

6 hours ago, The Kraken said:

Was listening to the radio earlier about it, it’s so utterly grubby, in fact corruption in plain sight.

From the Guardian….

It is no secret that the Club World Cup would not be happening in the way it is now happening without Dazn. In December 2024 Dazn offered Fifa a jaw-dropping $1bn (£787m) for the broadcast rights, all the more startling in a market that was, to that point, also Uncontested.

A month later Saudi Arabia concluded its own deal to buy a 10% stake in Dazn in return for – guess what – another $1bn. Two months after that Fifa announced its vast tournament prize fund, also, by coincidence, $1bn, thereby ensuring full compliance from its invited guests.

In the middle of this, around the time the soon-to-be-Saudi-part-owned Dazn was concluding its Fifa TV rights deal, Fifa awarded the 2034 World Cup to Saudi Arabia via a show of Uncontested applause from its members, thereby completing what is no doubt an entirely illusory circle of hand-washing.

I see CH5 have the tv rights here and assumed they paid fuck all for something no normal fan is excited about. Although I heard Auckland FC have a rating similar to Kidderminster Harriers so will be interesting seeing how they get on. 
Saudis are killing sport 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Saudis are killing sport 

Careful. Might be closer to home than you think. And our saviour.