Blackburn 2-1 Saints - Match Threads

[Football Special]

I've got contacts at Luton and follow their fortunes through good mates, I can tell you we really are as bad as they were last season , reality is starting to kick in for some of our fans 

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

They have folded every time there’s been a bit of dissent from the fans. Witness Martin v Spurs and some of mild stick v Juric. Banners, plane with a Solak out message, 90 minutes of chanting to get out of the club - that would be a start.

Falling attendances as the parachute payments will dwindle in parallel will achieve the aims. 

This won’t be like Guy Askham being pigheaded over Branfoot for almost 3 years. 

Yes but they own the club. It's their plaything so they don't want or need to give it up. If the fans don't like it I'm not sure what we do about it. That's my point. It's a closed shop. The only way I see anything happening is if Dragan states he's providing no more money and demands a way to get back some of what he's already put in. I'm scratching my head because it's a weird set up with Solak providing the money and SR making the decisions.

[RedWillie]

Preston next at home. Attendance will probably be 21000 at best, empty seats everywhere. A big 'F You Sports Republic' banner across the Northam would look nice.

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[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, saintant said:

Yes but they own the club. It's their plaything so they don't want or need to give it up. If the fans don't like it I'm not sure what we do about it. That's my point. It's a closed shop. The only way I see anything happening is if Dragan states he's providing no more money and demands a way to get back some of what he's already put in. I'm scratching my head because it's a weird set up with Solak providing the money and SR making the decisions.

But they also own the losses by the same logic, and what you’ve said is rational and logical btw. And those can be huge at Champ level if the gates drop away. They’ll need to sell playing assets as the parachute payments fall away which makes the anchor club of a group less useful. It depends if he’s willing to be pigheaded like Venky’s have with Blackburn or Pozzos with Watford, but my sense should that he doesn’t. 

[Toadhall Saint]

5 minutes ago, saintant said:

Yes but they own the club. It's their plaything so they don't want or need to give it up. If the fans don't like it I'm not sure what we do about it. That's my point. It's a closed shop. The only way I see anything happening is if Dragan states he's providing no more money and demands a way to get back some of what he's already put in. I'm scratching my head because it's a weird set up with Solak providing the money and SR spunking it up the wall.

Corrected for you 

[Football Special]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

But they also own the losses by the same logic, and what you’ve said is rational and logical btw. And those can be huge at Champ level if the gates drop away. They’ll need to sell playing assets as the parachute payments fall away which makes the anchor club of a group less useful. It depends if he’s willing to be pigheaded like Venky’s have with Blackburn or Pozzos with Watford, but my sense should that he doesn’t. 

Isn't he being forced out at board level of his other business? 

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, Football Special said:

Isn't he being forced out at board level of his other business? 

Not 100% sure of the context in what was his business but yes, there seemed to be manoeuvres which succeeded in June in removing him from United Group’s board and having just looked, his action to the Dutch courts to be reinstated was rejected only last week https://www.eureporter.co/lifestyle/media/2025/10/21/european-media-dragan-solak-loses-control-of-united-group-in-court-defeat/

Quite a fall from grace in Serbia.

[Football Special]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Not 100% sure of the context in what was his business but yes, there seemed to be manoeuvres which succeeded in June in removing him from United Group’s board and having just looked, his action to the Dutch courts to be reinstated was rejected only last week https://www.eureporter.co/lifestyle/media/2025/10/21/european-media-dragan-solak-loses-control-of-united-group-in-court-defeat/

Quite a fall from grace in Serbia.

Interesting, whether we want him out or not I'd imagine his attention is elsewhere 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Football Special said:

Interesting, whether we want him out or not I'd imagine his attention is elsewhere 

And protests against him would be a gift for his domestic foes.

[die Mannyschaft]

17 minutes ago, RedWillie said:

Preston next at home. Attendance will probably be 21000 at best, empty seats everywhere. A big 'F You Sports Republic' banner across the Northam would look nice.

Another boring 97 minutes of algebra football. 

[OttawaSaint]

10 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Another boring 97 minutes of algebra football. 

I just doesn't add up.

[Maggie May]

Someone needs to correct the score on this thread title - you’re going to confuse a hell of a lot of people that won’t know the result before logging on. lol 

[Roo1976]

42 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

But they also own the losses by the same logic, and what you’ve said is rational and logical btw. And those can be huge at Champ level if the gates drop away. They’ll need to sell playing assets as the parachute payments fall away which makes the anchor club of a group less useful. It depends if he’s willing to be pigheaded like Venky’s have with Blackburn or Pozzos with Watford, but my sense should that he doesn’t. 

Who do we as fans want to own the club?.................be careful of what you wish for,remember Sheff weds................,its senior management that arnt very good in making the right judgement calls in the vital team development  process IMO.

Do SR know what they see on the pitch? its so damn frustrating to know our club is fucking appallingly run,and so badly managed they seem to be beyond reproach, and it dosnt project good sell for a future buyer at this moment does it.

[Willo of Whiteley]

58 minutes ago, RedWillie said:

Preston next at home. Attendance will probably be 21000 at best, empty seats everywhere. A big 'F You Sports Republic' banner across the Northam would look nice.

Probably is you know full well it’ll be 28,000+.

Out fans can’t do a Sheffield Wednesday and properly boycott.

[Matty's Caddy]

Today was a pivotal moment on where I stood on will still. 
I was pro, I so wanted him to succeed and was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 
today was nothing less than a shambles. 
tactically inept

sorry will, that’s on you

i’m out
 

[Lighthouse]

41 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Probably is you know full well it’ll be 28,000+.

Out fans can’t do a Sheffield Wednesday and properly boycott.

Boycotting is a massive over reaction, considering the amount of money our owners have just spent. The time to boycott is when you’re owned by the likes of Chansiri, SISU, Lowe or the Venkys.

Don’t go if you don’t want to but expecting people to stay away on principle is wide of the mark.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

Boycotting is a massive over reaction, considering the amount of money our owners have just spent. The time to boycott is when you’re owned by the likes of Chansiri, SISU, Lowe or the Venkys.

Don’t go if you don’t want to but expecting people to stay away on principle is wide of the mark.

So 4 wins in what seems forever is no reason to boycott these charlatans just because money has been provided - and large chunks of it wasted I might add.  If that isn't ammunition enough to warrant a boycott I don't know what is.

[trousers]

6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Boycotting is a proportionate reaction, considering the amount of money our owners have just wasted.

Fixed it for you

[Mboto Gorge]

14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Boycotting is a massive over reaction, considering the amount of money our owners have just spent. The time to boycott is when you’re owned by the likes of Chansiri, SISU, Lowe or the Venkys.

Don’t go if you don’t want to but expecting people to stay away on principle is wide of the mark.

And here is your reason Saints fans are considered soft, this attitude and malaise synonymous with a lot of our fans , who won’t even consider action against owners who’ve overseen the worst run of results in English football history over 50 consecutive league games, Through blatant mismanagement of the football club over recruitment of players , managers, muddled thinking , complacency, arrogance and constant chopping and changing of club strategies and philosophy,

that’s right, the worst run of results EVER.  But yeah, let’s not rock the boat too much. And we wonder why these owners continue to fleece us, knowing we will just clap away at full time regardless. Fucking ridiculous 

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[Football Special]

20 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Boycotting is a massive over reaction, considering the amount of money our owners have just spent. The time to boycott is when you’re owned by the likes of Chansiri, SISU, Lowe or the Venkys.

Don’t go if you don’t want to but expecting people to stay away on principle is wide of the mark.

Personally I think it's better for fans to turn up and direct their anger at the directors box for 90 mins rather than just stay away.

They have broken this club that means something to us, the fans, and deserve every bit of abuse they get 

[Soton7]

How comes the poor nipper who came on had no name or number back of his shirt? Literally we’ve been shambles from top to bottom.

 

 

[Ed Rooney]

Second half effin terrible, like watching under 9’s

Subs made effin terrible and not made any better by Captain Stephens not even trying.

Other Captain Armstrong trying to look good rather than fuckin score - basically the loss his fault today - two easy one v one and he wanted to look special the first one and instead just looked a prick, 2nd one just as bad but at least he didn’t try a pathetic chip from 16 yards out - fuckin criminal, ego bigger than ability which can be said for most of those pricks.

Manager at fault for subs and naming such weak, non leader captains, but the players - fuck me, they really haven’t helped this season  

Edited 8 hours ago by Ed Rooney

[Football Special]

12 minutes ago, Soton7 said:

How comes the poor nipper who came on had no name or number back of his shirt? Literally we’ve been shambles from top to bottom.

 

 

Because he was never part of the planned squad, Saints "illness" problems meant they got him from u21s who were in Leicester for the game so they got him to travel at short notice, literally got a cab up to Blackburn arriving just in time, poor lad made error for their winner as well 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Football Special

[Football Special]

https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1982067765549859189?t=W8ne8_Mb7HnPf_bF5CrOcQ&s=19 

Edited 8 hours ago by Football Special

[trousers]

10 minutes ago, Football Special said:

https://x.com/AlfieHouseEcho/status/1982067765549859189?t=W8ne8_Mb7HnPf_bF5CrOcQ&s=19 

 

 

Can you imagine such a shambolic amateurish scenario like that ever arising under, say, a Cortese regime? Love him or hate him, he ran a tight ship and wouldn't have let it happen. Taking two ill players to an away game in the hope that they'll be ok, whilst not bringing any first team back up for them, and then having to rely on an U21 player who happened to be half way up the country who then has to come on with an unnamed / unnumbered shirt. Tin pot in the extreme. 

Edited 8 hours ago by trousers

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, Matty's Caddy said:

Today was a pivotal moment on where I stood on will still. 
I was pro, I so wanted him to succeed and was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 
today was nothing less than a shambles. 
tactically inept

sorry will, that’s on you

i’m out
 

Same 

[Football Special]

13 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

Can you imagine such a shambolic amateurish scenario like that ever arising under, say, a Cortese regime? Love him or hate him, he ran a tight ship and wouldn't have let it happen. Taking two ill players to an away game in the hope that they'll be ok, whilst not bringing any first team back up for them, and then having to rely on an U21 player who happened to be half way up the country who then has to come on with an unnamed / unnumbered shirt. Tin pot in the extreme. 

I think Cortese is irrelevant to be honest. You could argue any other professional or semi professional team would plan better. 

And don't get me started on other squad members being paid handsomely to sit at home.doing jigsaw puzzles, utterly bizarre sequence of incompetence that would verge on someone deliberately sabotaging the club to be believable 

Edited 8 hours ago by Football Special

[Football Special]

I feel sorry for lads like Bragg , u21s had been having a great season , that squad should be left alone for now and not infected by the loser mentality of the first XI, instead he gets a call last min he's needed in Blackburn and ends up like a contestant on Race Across the World trying to get to the checkpoint in a taxi, chucked on in rubbish circumstances 

Edited 8 hours ago by Football Special

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Boycotting is a massive over reaction, considering the amount of money our owners have just spent. The time to boycott is when you’re owned by the likes of Chansiri, SISU, Lowe or the Venkys.

Don’t go if you don’t want to but expecting people to stay away on principle is wide of the mark.

To borrow a phrase from another forum member: that's a fucking noddy, son-in-law attitude. How about we do something about it before we get to the kind of state that Wednesday or Coventry have found themselves in?

SR may have actually put money into the club, but if it's invested as badly as it has been then it's no different from having an owner who wants to bleed the club dry. They've had an easy ride so far, but they need to be held to account for their utterly appalling stewardship of OUR club. 

As long as these fucking muppets are in charge, we will continue to be an absolute laughing stock. If you're happy to sit on your hands and let them continue to grossly mismanage the club then that's your prerogative. But don't tell other fans how they should or shouldn't deal with what has become an unacceptable situation.

Edited 8 hours ago by Sheaf Saint

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

To borrow a phrase from another forum member: that's a a fucking noddy, son-in-law attitude. How about we do something about it before we get to the kind of state that Wednesday or Coventry have found themselves in?

SR may have actually put money into the club, but if it's invested as badly as it has been then it's no different from having an owner who wants to bleed the club dry. They've had an easy ride so far, but they need to be held to account for their utterly appalling stewardship of OUR club. 

As long as these fucking muppets are in charge, we will continue to be an absolute laughing stock. If you're happy to sit on your hands and let them continue to grossly mismanage the club then that's your prerogative. But don't tell other fans how they should or shouldn't deal with what has become an unacceptable situation.

 

[Osvaldorama]

23 minutes ago, trousers said:

Can you imagine such a shambolic amateurish scenario like that ever arising under, say, a Cortese regime? Love him or hate him, he ran a tight ship and wouldn't have let it happen. Taking two ill players to an away game in the hope that they'll be ok, whilst not bringing any first team back up for them, and then having to rely on an U21 player who happened to be half way up the country who then has to come on with an unnamed shirt. Tin pot in the extreme. 

Was thinking the same. 
 

Absolute shambles from the top down.

 
Tessem & Blackmore were urging patience on the radio, saying Still needs until the international break. 

But I disagree. I don’t think we can even wait until the next international break, I think he has to go now. We need an experienced championship manager in to stop the rot.
 

His tenure has been a complete catastrophe and we are in free fall until he goes. 

[Football Special]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

Was thinking the same. 
 

Absolute shambles from the top down.

 
Tessem & Blackmore were urging patience on the radio, saying Still needs until the international break. 

But I disagree. I don’t think we can even wait until the next international break, I think he has to go now. We need an experienced championship manager in to stop the rot.
 

His tenure has been a complete catastrophe and we are in free fall until he goes. 

Sports Republic are too afraid to appoint a proper leader who would call out their nonsense approach to running a football club and player recruitment 

[trousers]

6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Tessem & Blackmore were urging patience on the radio, saying Still needs until the international break. 

They were probably saying the same about Martin this time last year...

[Mboto Gorge]

23 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I think Cortese is irrelevant to be honest. You could argue any other professional or semi professional team would plan better. 

And don't get me started on other squad members being paid handsomely to sit at home.doing jigsaw puzzles, utterly bizarre sequence of incompetence that would verge on someone deliberately sabotaging the club to be believable 

This is it entirely, you could sit an outsider down and it would take hours to run through every instance of sheer incompetence and poor decision making that these owners have overseen over the last few years. It’s literally staggering. The incompetence beggars belief. They’ve set this club back decades, we are close to being right back to 2009 levels of shitness here - yes we aren’t skint, but we will soon have very little money to spend and be hovering around the league one trap door, so barely any difference at all. Thanks guys , great job. Cunts 

[die Mannyschaft]

The investors must have got thier investment back with all the skip load of cash that's rolled in from ticket sales, player sales, prem money, tv money,  parachute money. Accounts,  consultants, investors only hang around for more money so the football is secondary to making profit. I cant see much footballing decisions being made. 

We need football investors , people wuth football knowledge, experience and who want success for the club and players not the corporate brand, the club badge is more important. 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by die Mannyschaft

[AlexLaw76]

7 minutes ago, trousers said:

They were probably saying the same about Martin this time last year...

Blackmore offers nothing other than than the club are doing their best. He is a fucking wet wipe of the highest order.

House, he is a smarmy **** who get irritated at fans for questioning the manager.

 

Very sad state of affairs when these 2 are our voices to the club outside of the match itself.

[Lighthouse]

13 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

To borrow a phrase from another forum member: that's a fucking noddy, son-in-law attitude. How about we do something about it before we get to the kind of state that Wednesday or Coventry have found themselves in?

SR may have actually put money into the club, but if it's invested as badly as it has been then it's no different from having an owner who wants to bleed the club dry. They've had an easy ride so far, but they need to be held to account for their utterly appalling stewardship of OUR club. 

As long as these fucking muppets are in charge, we will continue to be an absolute laughing stock. If you're happy to sit on your hands and let them continue to grossly mismanage the club then that's your prerogative. But don't tell other fans how they should or shouldn't deal with what has become an unacceptable situation.

That’s a hell of a way to end a post telling me exactly how upset I should be and how I should react to it.

SR haven’t had an easy ride. They’ve lost a significant portion of their income from failing to stay in the PL on two separate occasions. They care far more about that than a bunch of fans boycotting games, which will cost them peanuts in comparison.

Like I said, stay away if you like, but unless you think we’re going to drive the club into administration with a boycott I’m not sure what you hope to achieve. Personally I think sacking the manager is a lot more likely, appropriate and sustainable.

[die Mannyschaft]

13 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Sports Republic are too afraid to appoint a proper leader who would call out their nonsense approach to running a football club and player recruitment 

I'm surprised they managed to employ the correct person to mark a football pitch out and not a tennis court. Perhaps they think Saints is an American Football team. 

[Sheaf Saint]

41 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

Can you imagine such a shambolic amateurish scenario like that ever arising under, say, a Cortese regime? Love him or hate him, he ran a tight ship and wouldn't have let it happen. Taking two ill players to an away game in the hope that they'll be ok, whilst not bringing any first team back up for them, and then having to rely on an U21 player who happened to be half way up the country who then has to come on with an unnamed / unnumbered shirt. Tin pot in the extreme. 

I'm absolutely speechless at this. It's the kind of ineptitude you would expect from a Sunday league team - turning up to a game just hoping that their star player isn't too hungover from the night before and then having to get one of the guys' sons who's just come as a spectator to play in his place when he doesn't show up.

That alone should be a sackable offence at this level.

[Mboto Gorge]

32 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

To borrow a phrase from another forum member: that's a fucking noddy, son-in-law attitude. How about we do something about it before we get to the kind of state that Wednesday or Coventry have found themselves in?

SR may have actually put money into the club, but if it's invested as badly as it has been then it's no different from having an owner who wants to bleed the club dry. They've had an easy ride so far, but they need to be held to account for their utterly appalling stewardship of OUR club. 

As long as these fucking muppets are in charge, we will continue to be an absolute laughing stock. If you're happy to sit on your hands and let them continue to grossly mismanage the club then that's your prerogative. But don't tell other fans how they should or shouldn't deal with what has become an unacceptable situation.

Absolutely bang on. 

[Sheaf Saint]

4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

That’s a hell of a way to end a post telling me exactly how upset I should be and how I should react to it.

SR haven’t had an easy ride. They’ve lost a significant portion of their income from failing to stay in the PL on two separate occasions. They care far more about that than a bunch of fans boycotting games, which will cost them peanuts in comparison.

Like I said, stay away if you like, but unless you think we’re going to drive the club into administration with a boycott I’m not sure what you hope to achieve. Personally I think sacking the manager is a lot more likely, appropriate and sustainable.

Yeah, only that's not actually what my post said is it. Maybe read it again.

As to what it would hopefully achieve? For starters just send a message to SR that we're not going to be mugged off anymore and continue to pay for their pitiful 'product'. 

[trousers]

Just to clear one thing up, have Lighthouse and MLG ever been seen together in the same room...? (Maybe at a Contrarian Festival but that doesn't count... )

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[captainchris]

4 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Starmer’s at least handled Trump well even if domestically poor, this is Liz Truss level ineptitude.

Ehhhh 😂😂😂😂

[captainchris]

1 hour ago, Ed Rooney said:

Second half effin terrible, like watching under 9’s

Subs made effin terrible and not made any better by Captain Stephens not even trying.

Other Captain Armstrong trying to look good rather than fuckin score - basically the loss his fault today - two easy one v one and he wanted to look special the first one and instead just looked a prick, 2nd one just as bad but at least he didn’t try a pathetic chip from 16 yards out - fuckin criminal, ego bigger than ability which can be said for most of those pricks.

Manager at fault for subs and naming such weak, non leader captains, but the players - fuck me, they really haven’t helped this season  

AA Is just not good enough yet continues to be picked which is bloody futile… 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

15 minutes ago, trousers said:

Just to clear one thing up, have Lighthouse and MLG ever been seen together in the same room...? (Maybe at a Contrarian Festival but that doesn't count... )

Yes it does! 🙂

[Mboto Gorge]

18 minutes ago, trousers said:

Just to clear one thing up, have Lighthouse and MLG ever been seen together in the same room...? (Maybe at a Contrarian Festival but that doesn't count... )

To determine this you’d have to check if lighthouse ever refuses to answer questions when he knows he’s been stumped,  by claiming the person asking him a question has used a Strawman or Tu quoque fallacy thus rendering the question void. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Mboto Gorge

[Appy]

Just got back, christ, what a grim day, never known an entire away end or match just completely turn on one substitution, things were relatively positive, well, as much as it can be this season until Scienza went off, it was just baffling, invited pressure from Blackburn and the fans. 
 

I’ve wanted to give this manager time as I’m so sick and tired of the churn of chopping and changing, but he lost the vast majority today if he hadn’t already. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

53 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Sports Republic are too afraid to appoint a proper leader who would call out their nonsense approach to running a football club and player recruitment 

As long as they all buy into their incompetence, they can continue to believe in their many failings.

An actual experienced football manager, looking to get success on the pitch rather than in player trading, wouldn't put up with it for a second. Which is why they will never hire one, and now why none will touch SR with a barge pole.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Just now, Holmes_and_Watson said:

As long as they all buy into their incompetence, they can continue to believe in their many failings.

An actual experienced football manager, looking to get success on the pitch rather than in player trading, wouldn't put up with it for a second. Which is why they will never hire one, and now why none will touch SR with a barge pole.

Beginning to see why the likes of Wilcox and Shields jumped at the first opportunity that came their way

[Forester]

Horrendous journey up there and missed first two minutes.  While I agree we could have won this is we had taken our Armstrong chances, as doubtless game would have panned out differently, in truth the performance was poor, especially second half.  
 

I was optimistic after Swansea, and thought we looked good for first hour at Brizzle, but this was not that type of performance.  Poor quality game, littered with errors, and back to it being hard to discern any pattern of intended play.  Then, like Tuesday, once we go behind the performance levels totally cave in.

I thought Charles was our best player before getting injured, and we now have our best two full backs both out (Jelert and Welington) along with our best performing midfielder and striker.  Grim.

A couple of other worrying observations, Wood was looking great before Tuesday but has had two bad games on the spin, similarly Edwards and Quarshie look like they went backwards today.  Azaz anonymous again, and I have yet to see anything at all from Roeslev that looks like a Premier League player of 100 appearances.  

I really want to see Still grow into the job and learn fast, but I am developing a horrible feeling that the players don’t rate him and aren’t playing for or him.  There are too many experienced players not firing or excluded for it to be a coincidence.  I hope I am wrong and he turns it around but things aren’t looking good.