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Posted
3 minutes ago, whelk said:

Walliams must just love the timing of the release. Although if as per his injunctions he will kill himself might all be moot

To be fair I think we'd all say that wouldn't we. Got to call his bluff.

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1 hour ago, benjii said:

FFS.

Patting passing women on the bum is not as bad as prolonged grabbing of their breasts or fanny.

If you rape someone you get years. Whether you're Pakistani, Afghan or faux-Victorian comedian come Jesus warrior.

If you genuinely think the institutions of the UK are set up to treat white British people worse than immigrants or racial minority Brits then you're an idiot of the highest order.

You nailed it Benjii

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Posted
2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

There is a specific offence for assaulting a minor if under 16 so the age of the 14 year old is very relevant and wasn’t relevant to brand.

Our mates case was sentenced in the crown court not a magistrates court. He also admitted criminal damage which also wasn’t relevant to brand, although I acknowledge this is a less serious charge than assault, albeit still an additional crime.
 

Im struggling to identify the reason for the difference in sentencing particularly the large disparity and I think you are also, if we are honest.

If I walked out of my house and grabbed two women by the bum, including a school girl, then smashed up the bus stop. Told a crown court judge I was sorry I think that 99% of the population would say a £400 fine is taking the piss, particularly when you then ask Russell brand the length of his sentence for two assaults.

You’re wasting your time. He has no problem with asylum seekers getting very lenient punishments for sexually assaulting children. Can’t you see that? 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

You’re wasting your time. He has no problem with asylum seekers getting very lenient punishments for sexually assaulting children. Can’t you see that? 

But poor, misunderstood Russell Brand has been hard done by has he? 😂

The Wyvern Wanker strikes again.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

But poor, misunderstood Russell Brand has been hard done by has he? 😂

The Wyvern Wanker strikes again.

No, I’m happy with Brand getting put away for a long time. You’re the one fully supporting lenient punishments for asylum seekers that sexually assault children. No backtracking on that now, all on record. 

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Just now, The Wyvern said:

No, I’m happy with Brand getting put away for a long time. You’re the one fully supporting lenient punishments for asylum seekers that sexually assault children. No backtracking on that now, all on record. 

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Posted
49 minutes ago, benjii said:

I'm shocked to hear Walliams groomed young girls.

 

I always thought he was gay.

Always been a bit strange that bloke so never really knew either way!

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Posted
6 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

I just hope this harsh sentence is the start of a new justice system that punishes sexual crimes appropriately.

Seen far too many lenient rulings in the last few years:

 

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I'm curious... Out of all the possible examples of lenient sentences you could have used to compare Brand's to, why have you chosen to highlight a couple involving immigrants? 

I get that you didn't create the graphic yourself and have just copied it from somewhere else, but what was the point you were trying to make with it?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I'm curious... Out of all the possible examples of lenient sentences you could have used to compare Brand's to, why have you chosen to highlight a couple involving immigrants? 

I get that you didn't create the graphic yourself and have just copied it from somewhere else, but what was the point you were trying to make with it?

It's a mystery for sure!

I mean they had this one to choose from as well, but I suspect it doesn't fit the narrative quite so well even though the 'crime' was comparable :

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-given-lengthy-prison-sentences-for-rape-of-woman-on-brighton-beach-13563576

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Two asylum seekers have been given lengthy prison sentences for repeatedly raping a woman on Brighton beach, while a third who filmed the attack has also been jailed.

The woman had been separated from her friends on a night out when two of the men took her behind a beach hut and raped her, while the third went to the location moments later and captured footage of the attack.

 

Ibrahim Alshafe, 26, from Egypt, and Abdulla Ahmadi, 26, from Iran, had both denied two counts each of raping the woman on 4 October last year. They were found guilty.

The pair were jailed for 21 years each at Hove Crown Court on Wednesday.

Obviously it's two tier sentencing with the White British guys getting far worse treatment.  Obviously.

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4 hours ago, benjii said:

FFS.

Patting passing women on the bum is not as bad as prolonged grabbing of their breasts or fanny.

If you rape someone you get years. Whether you're Pakistani, Afghan or faux-Victorian comedian come Jesus warrior.

If you genuinely think the institutions of the UK are set up to treat white British people worse than immigrants or racial minority Brits then you're an idiot of the highest order.

In relation to the law and sentencing bums v boobs makes no difference and sentencing is what we were talking about. Nobody has been able to explain the reason for the significant disparity despite assaulting a minor). Can you? All I’ve done is ask the question and looked at the sentencing guidelines. If somebody can then fine but nobody has

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

You nailed it Benjii

Do you like being the lap dog? Yapping around of the back of posts of people of the same political persuasion. It’s embarrassing. Get your own opinion and articulate it rather than making stupid comments.

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48 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

In relation to the law and sentencing bums v boobs makes no difference and sentencing is what we were talking about. Nobody has been able to explain the reason for the significant disparity despite assaulting a minor). Can you? All I’ve done is ask the question and looked at the sentencing guidelines. If somebody can then fine but nobody has

Why did the two Brighton asylum seekers rapists get twice the sentence that Brand did?

Rape is rape, right?

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42 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Why did the two Brighton asylum seekers rapists get twice the sentence that Brand did?

Rape is rape, right?

Youve oversimplified a detailed explanation of why I queried the sentencing in the two cases we talked about. I didnt say the sentences should be the same, I questioned the huge disparity for what appear to be similar crimes (albeit one was with a minor and got a lesser sentence) and why one was a £400 fine. You have just taken the conversation down to a very basic level. The Brighton case involved multiple rape, abduction, violence (kicking, slapping, strangling and spitting) and prolonged abuse, filming of the incident and a vulnerable victim. There are your differences right there. How about the differences in the cases I mentioned? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

Oh that's the private eye podcast. I see it mentioned in the mag.

Surely an investigation due on why everyone on there acts and speaks as if they're Hislop's love children. 🙂

Posted
2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Youve oversimplified a detailed explanation of why I queried the sentencing in the two cases we talked about. I didnt say the sentences should be the same, I questioned the huge disparity for what appear to be similar crimes (albeit one was with a minor and got a lesser sentence) and why one was a £400 fine. You have just taken the conversation down to a very basic level. The Brighton case involved multiple rape, abduction, violence (kicking, slapping, strangling and spitting) and prolonged abuse, filming of the incident and a vulnerable victim. There are your differences right there. How about the differences in the cases I mentioned? 

You've missed the point that there are numerous factors that influence sentencing, not least admitting the crime and showing remorse.

Those are things the courts take into account when determining the tariff. That's why the lesser tariff was issued.

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16 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Do you like being the lap dog? Yapping around of the back of posts of people of the same political persuasion. It’s embarrassing. Get your own opinion and articulate it rather than making stupid comments.

Whah Whaa Whah 😭

Nothing to do with political persuasion on this thread, its about a disgusting piece of shit getting his well deserved comeuppance, resulting in you trying to attack the sentencing and showing your failure to understand something AGAIN, no surprise there.

I don`t tend to reply to you much because you are a nasty piece of work but its fun watching those that do making an absolute fool of you each time.

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Posted
3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Whah Whaa Whah 😭

Nothing to do with political persuasion on this thread, its about a disgusting piece of shit getting his well deserved comeuppance, resulting in you trying to attack the sentencing and showing your failure to understand something AGAIN, no surprise there.

I don`t tend to reply to you much because you are a nasty piece of work but it’s fun watching those that do making an absolute fool of you each time.


I find your posts truly fascinating. 

You are barely sentient. It’s like a monkey has found a keyboard and managed to log into a forum 

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I still remember when Labour loved Russell Brand. Left wing politicians were queuing up to be in photos with him etc. 

 

Does anyone remember ‘Sachsgate’ and how Left-liberal columnists rushed to complain that most people who wrote to the BBC about it had been encouraged to do so by The Daily Mail and hadn’t actually listened to the radio show. 
😂

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Posted

Brand got a pretty lenient sentence. I know a bloke who got 12 years for attempted rape & sexually assaulting his bird. It was only a few weeks ago as well, so highlights how lucky Brand was after being found guilty. 

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1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:


I find your posts truly fascinating. 

You are barely sentient. It’s like a monkey has found a keyboard and managed to log into a forum 

Says the forum clown 🤣

I wish I could say I find your posts fascinating , I just realise you are a radicalised, blinkered, racist with a strange, scared outlook on life.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, tdmickey3 said:

Says the forum clown 🤣

I wish I could say I find your posts fascinating , I just realise you are a radicalised, blinkered, racist with a strange, scared outlook on life.

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Whah Whaa Whah 😭

Nothing to do with political persuasion on this thread, its about a disgusting piece of shit getting his well deserved comeuppance, resulting in you trying to attack the sentencing and showing your failure to understand something AGAIN, no surprise there.

I don`t tend to reply to you much because you are a nasty piece of work but its fun watching those that do making an absolute fool of you each time.

You’re really quite intellectually challenged. I know it’s not your fault and I don’t tend to get personal on here but sometimes there is an exception. People can have opinions but if they are thick as two planks it’s not coherent. Where did I say Brands sentence was too much? 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Wow - Being called out by an inspirational, clearly very successful, smart, intelligent, well read and articulate chap like you really has made me reflect on my life and my outlook on it…..I definitely, definitely dont agree with this statement “It’s like a monkey has found a keyboard and managed to log into a forum” and i would never post something sarcastic

You weren't being called out by that post, Osvaldorama was, unless you're the same person as we've always suspected...

 

Oops 😬 

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8 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

You weren't being called out by that post, Osvaldorama was, unless you're the same person as we've always suspected...

 

Oops 😬 

Just replied to the wrong post. I prefer my subsequent response. Much more honest. Do you have anything else to do rather than wait for people to post on other peoples posts? There are websites for you to make other friends on or even a girlfriend (wouldn’t want @tdmickey3 getting jealous though).

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Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Just replied to the wrong post. I prefer my subsequent response. Much more honest. Do you have anything else to do rather than wait for people to post on other peoples posts? There are websites for you to make other friends on or even a girlfriend (wouldn’t want @tdmickey3 getting jealous though).

Not on your high-horse about sending insults today then? Thought you saw yourself as above all that, especially when I wasn't sending any insults? 😂😂😂

It's embarrassing when you get caught out, but you need to reign in that anger.

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Not on your high-horse about sending insults today then? Thought you saw yourself as above all that, especially when I wasn't sending any insults? 😂😂😂

It's embarrassing when you get caught out, but you need to reign in that anger.

I agree I didn’t need to throw any insults. Including at @tdmickey3 My standards are typically better than that so I’ll take it on the chin and apologise. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Brand got a pretty lenient sentence. I know a bloke who got 12 years for attempted rape & sexually assaulting his bird. It was only a few weeks ago as well, so highlights how lucky Brand was after being found guilty. 

Yep. I thought that would be 12-15 years. What he got wasn't unduly lenient, but it was light. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

You’re really quite intellectually challenged. I know it’s not your fault and I don’t tend to get personal on here but sometimes there is an exception. People can have opinions but if they are thick as two planks it’s not coherent. Where did I say Brands sentence was too much? 

If your point isn't that you don't consider Brand's sentence to be excessive, in a sentence or two, what is your point?

Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, egg said:

If your point isn't that you don't consider Brand's sentence to be excessive, in a sentence or two, what is your point?

I was seeking clarity on the disparity in the sentencing of the two cases looking at the guidelines. The sentencing  is drastically different and it wasn’t clear why particularly as the lesser sentence involved a minor. That was my starting point. 

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I was seeking clarity on the disparity in the sentencing of the two cases looking at the guidelines. The sentencing  is drastically different and it wasn’t clear why particularly as the lesser sentence involved a minor. That was my starting point. 

Different cases with different facts will always have different sentences. 

Brand's sentence can be too strong or weak, and someone else's sentence can be too strong / weak. That's it. 

Fwiw, I think Brand's sentence was light. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, egg said:

Different cases with different facts will always have different sentences. 

Brand's sentence can be too strong or weak, and someone else's sentence can be too strong / weak. That's it. 

Fwiw, I think Brand's sentence was light. 

But there's more to come ;)

Posted
19 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

But there's more to come ;)

Yep, I suspect plenty. Anything else is likely to be concurrent too. 

That said, I'm staggered that anyone's first reaction to Brand's sentence is to attempt to compare it to an entirely different case, presumably to feed some kind of narrative. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Being reported now that there's a second well known person who has an injunction to prevent similar allegations as Walliams from being published.

Noel Fielding?

Posted
10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Being reported now that there's a second well known person who has an injunction to prevent similar allegations as Walliams from being published.

A very surprising (to me) name kept popping up when I saw reports re Walliams. 

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lol @ Johnathan Ross claiming he was unaware of the devious conduct of his long-time very good pals….

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Posted
6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Any clues who it may or may not be?

Not sure it's right to speculate. 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, egg said:

A very surprising (to me) name kept popping up when I saw reports re Walliams. 

Yeah, if that's the same name I kept seeing on Reddit then it came as a surprise to me as well. Seems to be an open secret in the industry.

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An injunction against one of the alleged victims actually banned her from talking to the Police under any circumstances, and is technically still in effect unless he consents to lift it.

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