SoccerMom Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/7910396.stm Gutted if this is true. Can't see why it would be misinformation, though. Get it sorted, physios!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 It's alright, should be ok, but if not then liptak looks to be a worthy replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 5 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Hmm, yes, but it's the partnership with Perry that's been so impressive over the last few games. I know that it's foolish to believe that players aren't going to have spells when they can't play, and we need to be secure in the alternatives, but these next couple of games could see us out of the bottom three. It's clearly very important that he stays in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 If there's any doubt at all, and it's something that could be aggravated then rest him and bring him back against Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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um pahars Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 It's alright, should be ok, but if not then liptak looks to be a worthy replacement. I'm afraid I do not share your optimism with regards Liptak. I am of coure no footballing expert and have seen him play for a total of about 15mins, but he looked scary (and I don't mean in an agressive, I'll bite yer legs off way). Not good news if true, so hopefully a minor niggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 I've seen him play for about 2 mins and I agree with you Um. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 For someone i thought very little of when he was appointed, i enjoy reading everything Woote says (When he''s not slating fans) .......even a bit of the old Fergie mind games in that interview. Keep it coming Mr Woote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/7910396.stm Gutted if this is true. Can't see why it would be misinformation, though. Get it sorted, physios!!! Just says minor injury and they are hopeful he will be back for the Brum game. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 What about Wayne Thomas? I'm a little confused about when he's due to be fit again.....have looked back at the OS articles and he was originally due back "in the new year" after having surgery, and yet the latest articles say that he's recovering "ahead of schedule".... Did I miss an update between his original projected recovery date and now? Can't see one on the OS.... Not sure how someone due back in the "new year" can be "ahead of schedule" in March....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 What about Wayne Thomas? I'm a little confused about when he's due to be fit again.....have looked back at the OS articles and he was originally due back "in the new year" after having surgery, and yet the latest articles say that he's recovering "ahead of schedule".... Did I miss an update between his original projected recovery date and now? Can't see one on the OS.... Not sure how someone due back in the "new year" can be "ahead of schedule" in March....? Not sure where/when it was on the OS or anything but the consensus, as I understood it, until recently was that he would be unlikely to play this season. If he gets fit it will be a big bonus as we are still threadbare at the back in the event of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Wotte appears to be playing the psyche game quite well. Putting all the pressure on Birmingham City, while leaving the impression that SFC are going to enjoy the challenge of beating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 I'm afraid I do not share your optimism with regards Liptak. I am of coure no footballing expert and have seen him play for a total of about 15mins, but he looked scary (and I don't mean in an agressive, I'll bite yer legs off way). Not good news if true, so hopefully a minor niggle. Unlike you not to be optimistic afterall Liptak could turn out to be better than Saejis or Perry. Liptak and Saejis could become our best partnership at the back since Killer carried Claus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Unlike you not to be optimistic afterall Liptak could turn out to be better than Saejis or Perry. Liptak and Saejis could become our best partnership at the back since Killer carried Claus. nineteen, you've had some half decent posts of late (Well at least readable). Don't go back to being a mong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Unlike you not to be optimistic afterall Liptak could turn out to be better than Saejis or Perry. Liptak and Saejis could become our best partnership at the back since Killer carried Claus. I think this could well be a post to keep for posterity:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Liptak and Saejis could become our best partnership at the back since Killer carried Claus. Of course - I forgot how his mind works. Killer = a coach under Wotte. Wotte = a friend of Lowe. Therefore Killer = a friend of Sundance // Nineteen & Sundance / Nieteen slag off anyone who could be compared with Killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 nineteen, you've had some half decent posts of late (Well at least readable). Don't go back to being a mong. Which part did I offend you with. My optimism that Liptak maybe better than Perry or the fact that Svennson was a vastly superior CB than Claus. Its not as though I was suggesting Vincent Pericard was more effective up front than Marek Saganowski. If mong is an abbrieviation then for personal reasons if nothing else I find the word deeply offensive along with any other term that has it's origins based in describing human disabilities along with words that are racially offensive. Sorry I had to mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 I think this could well be a post to keep for posterity:D Maybe, but the real nugget will be the one you post that starts: 'I am really optimistic and upbeat about this club and its set up.....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Which part did I offend you with. My optimism that Liptak maybe better than Perry or the fact that Svennson was a vastly superior CB than Claus. Its not as though I was suggesting Vincent Pericard was more effective up front than Marek Saganowski. If mong is an abbrieviation then for personal reasons if nothing else I find the word deeply offensive along with any other term that has it's origins based in describing human disabilities along with words that are racially offensive. Sorry I had to mention that. It wasn't meant to offend, so if it did, my apologies (Just a Hythe colloqualism), but i suspect any offence you have taken is an attempt to deflect attention from your post, suggesting Liptak is going to be our hero. If only Stevenage (And his other teams) had seen his true potential . I have this mental picture of Lowe lambasting you down the phone for blowing your new found credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 nineteen, you've had some half decent posts of late (Well at least readable). Don't go back to being a mong. I thought he had a point, we won't know what Liptak is like until we see him a few times, could turn out to be good or bad, I'll pass judgement after a few appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 It wasn't meant to offend, so if it did, my apologies (Just a Hythe colloqualism), but i suspect any offence you have taken is an attempt to deflect attention from your post, suggesting Liptak is going to be our hero. If only Stevenage (And his other teams) had seen his true potential . I have this mental picture of Lowe lambasting you down the phone for blowing your new found credibility. Where did Palace pluck Ian Wright from? Darren Ferguson has recently signed a player from Richmond (I think) who couldn't get game in Basingstoke reserves and he has already had a brief run out for the posh the other night. SaintWarwick is right until we've had a chance to get a good look at him we don't know, I suppose you thought Saejis was going to be good based simply on his background. Colloqualism is not a justification but apology accepted even with your unnecessary sceptism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy_Saint Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 Where did Palace pluck Ian Wright from? Darren Ferguson has recently signed a player from Richmond (I think) who couldn't get game in Basingstoke reserves and he has already had a brief run out for the posh the other night. SaintWarwick is right until we've had a chance to get a good look at him we don't know, I suppose you thought Saejis was going to be good based simply on his background. Colloqualism is not a justification but apology accepted even with your unnecessary sceptism. Not to mention the likes of Dave Kitson, Andy Keogh, Michael Kightly, Stephen Hunt and Kevin Doyle to name but a few. All plucked from relative obscurity in non league (or Irish league) to become very good championship players. Not saying Liptak is gaurenteed to be awsome for us but at least give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 5 March, 2009 Share Posted 5 March, 2009 What about Wayne Thomas? I'm a little confused about when he's due to be fit again.....have looked back at the OS articles and he was originally due back "in the new year" after having surgery, and yet the latest articles say that he's recovering "ahead of schedule".... Did I miss an update between his original projected recovery date and now? Can't see one on the OS.... Not sure how someone due back in the "new year" can be "ahead of schedule" in March....? I saw Wayne Thomas on Saturday, and he can still barely walk. There is no way he will be playing again this season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 I saw Wayne Thomas on Saturday, and he can still barely walk. There is no way he will be playing again this season IMO. Cheers for that. So it sounds like the OS are being a smidgen over optimistic with their reporting, which isn't a bad thing I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 My initial thoughts... 1) He's out for the season 2) He's been recalled on his loan Reality... Southampton have a minor injury worry over defender Jan-Paul Saeijs, but they are hopeful the Dutchman will be fit for the trip to St Andrew's. Calm down dear...put down the exclamation mark button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 who else did liptak play for? surely one of them would have seen his, according to Canteens optimism, potential to be in the ian wright type mold :-) not knocking the lad and will reserve judgement until he has played for more than 10 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 What about Wayne Thomas? I'm a little confused about when he's due to be fit again.....have looked back at the OS articles and he was originally due back "in the new year" after having surgery, and yet the latest articles say that he's recovering "ahead of schedule".... Did I miss an update between his original projected recovery date and now? Can't see one on the OS.... Not sure how someone due back in the "new year" can be "ahead of schedule" in March....? He did his cruciate ligaments, I'll be very surprised if he plays this season. At the moment, there isn't any real need to rush him back either - it's not as if we're a) leaking goals left, right and centre, or b) short on defensive cover right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 I'm afraid I do not share your optimism with regards Liptak. I am of coure no footballing expert and have seen him play for a total of about 15mins, but he looked scary (and I don't mean in an agressive, I'll bite yer legs off way). Not good news if true, so hopefully a minor niggle. Absolutely agree with your view of Liptak, he looks poor but I hope this is down to getting into the games when he has come on as sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 He did his cruciate ligaments, I'll be very surprised if he plays this season. At the moment, there isn't any real need to rush him back either - it's not as if we're a) leaking goals left, right and centre, or b) short on defensive cover right now. I believe that he was told after the operation that he faced a 12 month recovery period however it seems he is recovering much more quickly than this (6 months ahead of the original recovery plan) and could start training again before the end of the season. Even with this good news, it is highly unlikely he will be fit enough to feature in any games this is season but should be ready for the next campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 (edited) A quick hypothetical... If JPS is carrying a knock is it better to give him a day off on Saturday to make sure he's fit for Tuesday? After all - on paper Tuesday's is the far more winnable match. Or is it better to try and keep the momentum going with a result tomorow no matter what the cost? Edited 6 March, 2009 by SaintDonkey terrible grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 Is Liptak better than the forgotten man Lancashire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 Is Liptak better than the forgotten man Lancashire? a paraplegic is better than Lancashire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 Absolutely agree with your view of Liptak, he looks poor but I hope this is down to getting into the games when he has come on as sub. I don't see how anyone can get a meaningful appraisal of Liptik from about five minutes of play. He hasn't done anything wrong. He shored up the defence for the last crucial minutes of two games when we frequently have conceded and lost games recently. He is tall and made some crucial headers. He has everything to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 I don't see how anyone can get a meaningful appraisal of Liptik from about five minutes of play. He hasn't done anything wrong. He shored up the defence for the last crucial minutes of two games when we frequently have conceded and lost games recently. He is tall and made some crucial headers. He has everything to prove. I agree. He's a white Darren Moore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 I would prefer to hear from those who have seen Liptac playing for the reserves and their observations on his strengths and weaknesses. Must admit it did make me laugh when he made the run out of defence the other day, got past the halfway line, looked confused and kicked to ball into touch. However, lets give the lad a chance if he is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 I agree. He's a white Darren Moore... Well just as long as he's not a white Darren Powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 6 March, 2009 Share Posted 6 March, 2009 Which part did I offend you with. My optimism that Liptak maybe better than Perry or the fact that Svennson was a vastly superior CB than Claus. Its not as though I was suggesting Vincent Pericard was more effective up front than Marek Saganowski. If mong is an abbrieviation then for personal reasons if nothing else I find the word deeply offensive along with any other term that has it's origins based in describing human disabilities along with words that are racially offensive. Sorry I had to mention that. LMAO - Another moment of tory boy trying to talk football (badly) and then over-reacting, despite the hugely hypocritical diatribe and class-laden bigotry we usually hear every other post from Sundance/Nineteen Ventaspleen. Keep peddling the "Pericard" analogy. It may work one day, on some bench somewhere...in the woods. You need to research a new tag line about the sport, that one is wearing thin. Maybe, but the real nugget will be the one you post that starts: 'I am really optimistic and upbeat about this club and its set up.....' Lighten up. A bad day in the wellington boot factory?! Isn't it ironic when you buy 2 pairs of wellington boots, then chew your own foot off....errrrrrr, maybe not. *gets tweed jacket* ;o) Where did Palace pluck Ian Wright from? Darren Ferguson has recently signed a player from Richmond (I think) who couldn't get game in Basingstoke reserves and he has already had a brief run out for the posh the other night. SaintWarwick is right until we've had a chance to get a good look at him we don't know, I suppose you thought Saejis was going to be good based simply on his background. Colloqualism is not a justification but apology accepted even with your unnecessary sceptism. You've done some more research, well done. Having some actual, genuine recall and depth to your football knowledge will stand you in better stead for the analysis though, or any respite. I find the scepticism utterance laughable though, with your track record. When you so blindly and sycophantically sound off as the mouth piece for your peerage yet blindly, verbosely and quite wrongly castigate Crouch, esq. with your bitter, snobbish hatred (for whatever reasons) and twisted misdemeanour. Sorry to be antagonistic but I’m not sure if this is your more polite, tongue biting moniker (peddling positive relations for Lowe, esq.), or the more realistic and bigoted personality, frustrated at now being able to control and manipulate the good people of Southampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 (edited) LMAO - Another moment of tory boy trying to talk football (badly) and then over-reacting, despite the hugely hypocritical diatribe and class-laden bigotry we usually hear every other post from Sundance/Nineteen Ventaspleen. Keep peddling the "Pericard" analogy. It may work one day, on some bench somewhere...in the woods. You need to research a new tag line about the sport, that one is wearing thin. Lighten up. A bad day in the wellington boot factory?! Isn't it ironic when you buy 2 pairs of wellington boots, then chew your own foot off....errrrrrr, maybe not. *gets tweed jacket* ;o) You've done some more research, well done. Having some actual, genuine recall and depth to your football knowledge will stand you in better stead for the analysis though, or any respite. I find the scepticism utterance laughable though, with your track record. When you so blindly and sycophantically sound off as the mouth piece for your peerage yet blindly, verbosely and quite wrongly castigate Crouch, esq. with your bitter, snobbish hatred (for whatever reasons) and twisted misdemeanour. Sorry to be antagonistic but I’m not sure if this is your more polite, tongue biting moniker (peddling positive relations for Lowe, esq.), or the more realistic and bigoted personality, frustrated at now being able to control and manipulate the good people of Southampton! Gordon you seem to the bigoted one full of hatred and frustration and all because I am trying to manipulate you? Are you that easily manipulated or threatened by some fairly run of the mill comments that you need to lose your self control? Your thoughts on SFC are so well made and effective you could just be the Vincent Pericard of the forum. CK Chesterton wrote ' Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions'. Read my original post again and then read your response. Chesterton's quote has you down perfectly don't you think? If you want to insult me to the point I stop posting you are going to have to try a lot harder than that. Try starting with some wit and intelligence, oh and some facts because if you had the opportunity to pick me out from a line up of likely candidates based on your preconceptions I'd be the last man standing. You though might be a little easier, spittle is a give away. Edited 8 March, 2009 by Nineteen Canteen spelling error - just the thing Gordon likes to latch onto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 Where did Palace pluck Ian Wright from? Darren Ferguson has recently signed a player from Richmond (I think) who couldn't get game in Basingstoke reserves and he has already had a brief run out for the posh the other night. Nineteen / Sundance has done some research on football. Clever old him. I wonder if this link about Justin Fashanu would help in his burgeoning interest in football. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7930310.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 8 March, 2009 Share Posted 8 March, 2009 Gordon you seem to the bigoted one full of hatred and frustration and all because I am trying to manipulate you? Are you that easily manipulated or threatened by some fairly run of the mill comments that you need to lose your self control? Your thoughts on SFC are so well made and effective you could just be the Vincent Pericard of the forum. CK Chesterton wrote ' Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions'. Read my original post again and then read your response. Chesterton's quote has you down perfectly don't you think? If you want to insult me to the point I stop posting you are going to have to try a lot harder than that. Try starting with some wit and intelligence, oh and some facts because if you had the opportunity to pick me out from a line up of likely candidates based on your preconceptions I'd be the last man standing. You though might be a little easier, spittle is a give away. Hello Mr Pot. Considering some of the vitriolic attacks and insults towards many posters on here and others in the real world (e.g. Crouch, McMenemy et al), then I'm afraid that the last 0.5% of credibility you may have had has quickly vanished with the above post:rolleyes::rolleyes: You need to decide as to whether you will be nice Nineteen Canteen, rude Nineteen Canteen, Sundance Beast, Flashman, The Bear and whatever the other three monikers were and stick with that persona, because the good cop/bad cop is just so confusing;). From the man in the Itchen South/Chapel corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 Gordon you seem to the bigoted one full of hatred and frustration and all because I am trying to manipulate you? Are you that easily manipulated or threatened by some fairly run of the mill comments that you need to lose your self control? Your thoughts on SFC are so well made and effective you could just be the Vincent Pericard of the forum. Conversely, maybe you should consider some of your previous comments, both as Sundance and Nineteen (let's be fair, you're not fooling anyone) and remember the constant reference to flat caps and disdain towards the fellow Saints supporters. That attitude speaks much louder than some more recent, well placed words splashed around the forum (twinned with some 'wide of the mark football facts' that have been revised in your endless free time). People remember those words so a shift in tactics doesn't change a leopard's spots in my 'humble' opinion. Humility eh?! Who'd have thought. It makes me chuckle to be fair. You're persistent to say the least. CK Chesterton wrote ' Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions'. Read my original post again and then read your response. Chesterton's quote has you down perfectly don't you think? You've done well - your most hypocritical post to date, possibly. If you want to insult me to the point I stop posting you are going to have to try a lot harder than that. Try starting with some wit and intelligence, oh and some facts because if you had the opportunity to pick me out from a line up of likely candidates based on your preconceptions I'd be the last man standing. You though might be a little easier, spittle is a give away. I do not wish, nor take pleasure, from insulting you. I merely take your words for what they're worth, and respond accordingly. Put that into perspective, or twist it as you wish but I don't wish any ill of you, nor intend to play games and overtly insult you. I just speak for myself, and those like minded. It's only an opinion. If you see me as a meaningless, opinion less, witless numpty, then feel the need to insult me - then so be it. You obviously regard yourself as some superior wit, an intellect intent on playing mind games on a football forum, trying to sway opinion and then spouting verbosity at all those that oppose your questionable agenda. Arrogant. Maybe sanctimonious too but that's common ground here, myself not excluded. You've got to laugh. Another post laden with an inane & obscure quote (what is the fascination with other people's words?) in yet more thinly veiled pomposity, directed as a hypocritical snipe at myself, purporting a futile and meaningless point. WOW! That's a mouthful, although I won't make any euphemism towards you, in a tongue in cheek (no pun intended) manner, as that also upsets you. In fact, most things upset you that don't fall in your remit of anything pro-Rupey...maybe throwing in a neutrally appeasing "Pericard" quote so as not to get as many backs up as your older/preferred target of Crouch or Pearson. Please, if you're going to dish out the insults and get a bee in that bonnet, try and be more succinct and, equally, relevant. Watching the game tonight old fella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 Nineteen / Sundance has done some research on football. Clever old him. I wonder if this link about Justin Fashanu would help in his burgeoning interest in football. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7930310.stm can't believe that was 11 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 CK Chesterton wrote ' Bigotry may be roughly defined as the anger of men who have no opinions'. Read my original post again and then read your response. Chesterton's quote has you down perfectly don't you think? G. K. Chesterton. If you're going to quote somebody, please make sure that you get his name right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 March, 2009 Share Posted 10 March, 2009 can't believe that was 11 years ago Goold ole Sundance/Nineteen didn't believe it at all;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 G. K. Chesterton. If you're going to quote somebody, please make sure that you get his name right. Thank You, Wes. Gary Chesterton also wrote: 'One sees great things from the valley; only small things from the peak'. Come down and join the common man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 G. K Chesterton :- ""The world will very soon be divided, unless I am mistaken, into those who still go on explaining our success, and those somewhat more intelligent who are trying to explain our failure." So presumably the 500 you label as the serial moaners explaining where we went wrong, are in fact the more intelligent among us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 Maybe, but the real nugget will be the one you post that starts: 'I am really optimistic and upbeat about this club and its set up.....' Let's cross everything that Um starts a post with that next year - it'll mean that you know who has gone and we are starting afresh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 (edited) Thank You, Wes. Gary Chesterton also wrote: 'One sees great things from the valley; only small things from the peak'. Come down and join the common man. Not this season - ask any Charlton fan... (boom boom!). Edited 11 March, 2009 by SW11_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 G. K Chesterton :- ""The world will very soon be divided, unless I am mistaken, into those who still go on explaining our success, and those somewhat more intelligent who are trying to explain our failure." So presumably the 500 you label as the serial moaners explaining where we went wrong, are in fact the more intelligent among us. Chesterton could have been writing about us on so many occasions!!!!! e.g. Given the line that Lowe is in the charge as he has the backing of his cabal and can do as he pleases, then: "To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it!!!" Then perhaps persisting with Poortvliet and then reading out the "Everything is OK" letter at the AGM: "It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 And yet another three apposite pearls of wisdom from Chesterton:- "Men do not differ much about what things they will call evils; they differ enormously about what evils they will call excusable." "It's not that we don't have enough scoundrels to curse; it's that we don't have enough good men to curse them." "There is a case for telling the truth; there is a case for avoiding the scandal; but there is no possible defense for the man who tells the scandal, but does not tell the truth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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