McGoldrick - superb

[benjii]

I feel, having taken a lot of stick this season, he deserves a thread for what was an excellent performance last night.

 

I don't want to discuss whether the stick was justified or not but simply urge him to maintain the level of commitment, effort and composure he showed last night.

 

If the rest of the team can up their performance to a similar level we will have no problem staying up.

Edited 8 April, 2009 by benjii

[Saints foreva]

He has been one of our better players over the past couple of months, since Euells involvement in the side he seems to try harder and play a whole lot better than before.

 

Well done McGoldrick!

[SaintDonkey]

And well done Euell - two players who've got a hell of a lot of stick from certain fans but are still fighting for Saints survival.

 

Just wish Jason would spend more time in shooting practise!

[scott_saints]

Best player for me last night. Was awesome!

[ladysaint]

I actually said last night during the game that he was having his best game for a long time and for me MOTM.

[mattbrennan]

He was bossing the game in the middle. Absolute quality. His touch was superb throughout the night and he made various sublime passes including the perfectly weighted chip over the top from the right side in the second half which I think landed straight at BWP's feet. He was tackling back when he lost possesion (although he didnt lose it much).

 

I agree with ladysaint - he was absolutely immense and by far the best player on the pitch. He seemed to be playing with some confidence and real belief in his ability -not just the naive ****iness he possesed at the beginning of the season.

[saints_is_the_south]

I was thinking about starting a similar thread even before the Watford game.

 

I think we have all given DMG stick during the season to score 12 goals in a struggling team is a very good achievement. Probably MOTM last night had it not been for Size's 2 goals.

[saintinlondon]

agreed. put in a good shift all over the park

[The Flying Finn]

It's because he's playing in his natural position.

 

The lad's always had the talent, he's just not an out and out striker.

[trousers]

Just don't play too well or we might end up owing Notts County another 6 figure sum....

[West End Saint]

Have to agree DMG has been excellent in midfield and he still might make a striker he seems to of lost the attitude I think he has sussed out the great players have talent and workrate he has improved as a player this season and fair play to him also I have given Lloyd James some stick this season but he has been great as well didnt we miss him against Charlton so well done to both of them

[Smirking_Saint]

Said for a little while i thought midfield was his best position, was not at watford but glad to hear he took the enthusiasm he showed from saturday into last night.

 

For me there are two types of player, those that take criticism and go down hill and those that take it and act upon it.

 

Fair play for DMG being the latter, FWIW though i feel Lallana may be the first of the two.

[david in sweden]

DMG has looked excellent the last 2 games in midfield. Composed and bright with lots of energy. Nothing like his performance and attitude of a couple of months ago.

 

Just a shame it's come so late and he'll be improving for someone else next season.

 

Right Adrian,

It's been a long and difficult season for DMG and few players have had so much responsibility on their shoulders in their first REAL season.

 

Great goalscorers of the past; Channon, Stokes, Moran, Shearer, Le Tissier all started as occasional subs. in teams with established players alongside them, and even then didn't get regular games. Looking back at ITN , you see that most

(of the above) spent one, even two seasons as sub. before they became regulars.

 

DMG has been in almost every game this season, in a side struggling for survival, and still managed to reach double figures in goals - considerably better than the three international players we've loaned out this season.

 

YES he's had some bad games, but overall he's done exceptionally well against some tough defences, and if he'd been on target a bit more often, might easily be leading scorer in the league. Give him a chance next season and he may well become a top scorer next season - but in which league?

 

I think he deserves more credit than he's been given by some of his critics on this site.

Edited 8 April, 2009 by david in sweden

[Window Cleaner]

Right Adrian,

It's been a long and difficult season for DMG and few players have had so much responsibility on their shoulders in their first REAL season.

 

Great goalscorers of the past; Channon, Stokes, Moran, Shearer, Le Tissier all started as occasional subs. in teams with established players alongside them, and even then didn't get regular games. Looking back at ITN , you see that most

(of the above) spent one, even two seasons as sub. before they became regulars.

 

DMG has been in almost every game this season, in a side struggling for survival, and still managed to reach double figures in goals - considerably better than the three international players we've loaned out this season.

 

YES he's had some bad games, but overall he's done exceptionally well against some tough defences, and if he'd been on target a bit more often, might easily be leading scorer in the league. Give him a chance next season and he may well become a top scorer next season - but in which league?

 

I think he deserves more credit than he's been given by some of his critics on this site.

 

We'll probably get a really decent fee for him, perhaps as much as 2.5 million.

Pity but unavoidable methinks.

[Tamesaint]

He was excellent last night and it looks as if we have discovered his best position.

[stkev7]

Agree with the above posts, easily our best player last night.

 

He's been working his b*llocks off in recent games and seems to have a bit of class about him. Give him another season and he'll be knocking on the door of the Premiership.

[saintmatt]

Right Adrian,

It's been a long and difficult season for DMG and few players have had so much responsibility on their shoulders in their first REAL season.

 

Great goalscorers of the past; Channon, Stokes, Moran, Shearer, Le Tissier all started as occasional subs. in teams with established players alongside them, and even then didn't get regular games. Looking back at ITN , you see that most

(of the above) spent one, even two seasons as sub. before they became regulars.

 

DMG has been in almost every game this season, in a side struggling for survival, and still managed to reach double figures in goals - considerably better than the three international players we've loaned out this season.

 

YES he's had some bad games, but overall he's done exceptionally well against some tough defences, and if he'd been on target a bit more often, might easily be leading scorer in the league. Give him a chance next season and he may well become a top scorer next season - but in which league?

 

I think he deserves more credit than he's been given by some of his critics on this site.

 

completely agree, was motm last night and has had unfair stick all season - playing on you own up top isnt as easy as people seem to think it is!special mention to lloyd james as well,he's got better and better as the season has worn on

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Couldn't agree more, well done David!!

[ladysaint]

Anyone know why Ryan Smith and BWP were on the wrong wings last night!

[Window Cleaner]

Anyone know why Ryan Smith and BWP were on the wrong wings last night!

 

It's current theory in football, probably stems from Messi and Arjen Robben ,both left footers who are actually better down the right than they are down the left.As to why you'd have to ask a sports scientist, it's something to do with turning in when the defender expects you to turn out. Also the angle of the resulting cross has something to do with it.

However what may be true for Messi,Robben and Van Persie is not necessarily applicable to BWP and Smith.

Edited 8 April, 2009 by Window Cleaner

[benjii]

He was excellent last night and it looks as if we have discovered his best position.

 

Although funilly enough he played in two different roles last night, following substitutions, and was just as good in a withdrawn midfield role. I prefer seeing him further forward though.

 

Agree with the above posts, easily our best player last night.

 

He's been working his b*llocks off in recent games and seems to have a bit of class about him. Give him another season and he'll be knocking on the door of the Premiership.

 

I agree.

 

I hope we keep him for next season.

[Window Cleaner]

Although funilly enough he played in two different roles last night, following substitutions, and was just as good in a withdrawn midfield role. I prefer seeing him further forward though.

 

 

 

I agree.

 

I hope we keep him for next season.

 

 

doubtful actually, will depend which league we're in.He probably won't play in League 1.

[benjii]

doubtful actually, will depend which league we're in.He probably won't play in League 1.

 

What you on about?

 

We're too good to go down and will walk this league next year.

[Bailey]

Was a solid performance from McGoldrick last night.

 

He's definitely been one of our better performers of late, and long may it continue.

 

He's working hard for the team, chasing balls down and putting himself about.

 

Fair play to him.

[sidthesquid]

It's taken him a while but a) he's found his 'true' position (which was clearly never going to be centre-forward), and b) he's grasped just what level of effort and commitment are required. Good on him for that, I say, & I just hope, having helped him mature into a decent asset we are not forced to flog him off for a pittance

[sidthesquid]

I always felt that if we could survive this season then next would be brighter. McGoldrick, along with Gillett & James in particular have definitely blossomed this season, & Lallana will come good again. Add in a bunch of youngsters like Paterson, Gobern, Mills, White & Thompson who all seem to have bit of something about them & two or three old heads & there is the basis of a half-decent squad, if we can keep them together. It was always too much, too soon for some of them this year (& too many of them at once), but McG, Gillett & James have really benefitted from being first-team regulars.

[Window Cleaner]

What you on about?

 

We're too good to go down and will walk this league next year.

 

 

Right, I forgot that.

[david in sweden]

It's taken him a while but a) he's found his 'true' position (which was clearly never going to be centre-forward), and b) he's grasped just what level of effort and commitment are required. Good on him for that, I say, & I just hope, having helped him mature into a decent asset we are not forced to flog him off for a pittance

 

.........which is a great shame. Had it been even 2 seasons ago, he'd be in the same bracket as Walcott and Bale and sought after by Prem Clubs.

[BotleySaint]

well done DMG - been doing well, keep it up. 12 goals isn't bad!

[Saint_clark]

Said it about two months ago that he was improving and got called an imbecile with no football knowledge at all. Quite funny.

Him, James and Gillett all look better for this seasons experience. If we can hold onto them and other young players like Lancashire, Thomson and Mills I think we could be very good in the coming seasons.

If we go down I wouldn't be too disappointed if we saw this team -

 

--------Bialkowski

James Perry Lancashire Mills

Thomson Gillett Lallana Smith

------McGoldrick Paterson

[Saint dyer]

ever since the preston game when he has played in the hole i think he has been superb. full marks mcgoldrick!!

[Minsk]

Said it about two months ago that he was improving and got called an imbecile with no football knowledge at all. Quite funny.

Him, James and Gillett all look better for this seasons experience. If we can hold onto them and other young players like Lancashire, Thomson and Mills I think we could be very good in the coming seasons.

If we go down I wouldn't be too disappointed if we saw this team -

 

--------Bialkowski

James Perry Lancashire Mills

Thomson Gillett Lallana Smith

------McGoldrick Paterson

 

I really hope no matter where we are next season that we sign a RB; and, if Euell, Saga and BWP all leave, an experienced old CF.

 

I think a midfield of: James-Gillett-DMG-Holmes would be pretty decent. Ability there to create and score goals, especially if we do go down.

[Minsk]

Anyone know why Ryan Smith and BWP were on the wrong wings last night!

 

Because that's where Wotte wanted them. I know, it's a crazy world, and I also don't understand why any manager would have left footer on the right wing and a right footer on the left.

[AlfredKo]

I used to hate him a lot because he was crap and ugly. But I must say I am wrong now. After seeing his incredible solo individual goals against Preston, Blackpool, Charlton, I must consider he can be one of the best players in the championship or even in the premiership. I never see Christano Ronaldo scored similar goals like Mcgoldrick in the Premiership. Even Ibrahimovic scored only one similar goal like that in Serie A in about 3 seasons time. Mcgoldrick looks so easy to beat two or three defenders in this division and then kick the ball into the back of the net without too much problems. Keep scoring goals like that, we will survive and Mcgoldrick can be better than Walcott one day without joking.

[rick1976.4.38]

he did have a blinder last night but i think he lacks a bit of pace,but fair play to him hes shown the knockers how his improved and if we can keep him i believe he will shine next season,coyr

[Saint_clark]

I really hope no matter where we are next season that we sign a RB; and, if Euell, Saga and BWP all leave, an experienced old CF.

 

I think a midfield of: James-Gillett-DMG-Holmes would be pretty decent. Ability there to create and score goals, especially if we do go down.

 

Whilst James was awful at RB at the start of the season, I think he's finally got used to it and is looking really good now.

Agree about the CF thing though, even if it's just someone like Jon Macken. I do honestly think that the team I posted above would do well in League One. After a season of playing together and gaining more experience, they would do even better.

Just hope it works out like that.

[OldNick]

Because that's where Wotte wanted them. I know, it's a crazy world, and I also don't understand why any manager would have left footer on the right wing and a right footer on the left.

WGS has no idea either of course.

[david in sweden]

WGS has no idea either of course.

 

I think WGS had some sort of " tactical thing " about playing left sided Fernandes on the right side..and Sturrock (or was it Wigley) got a few good games out Anders Svensson (a right sided midfielder) playing him on the left.

 

A right winger will try to pass the opposing left back down the line, whereas a left-footed player can cut inside on his favourite left foot..and in so doing turn the left back (inside), and shorten the distance to goal. Likewise for a right winger playing on the left. He will naturally use his right foot and cut inside his opposing back and not run the line.

At least thats the theory- I believe).

In the days when Saints played wingers, Terry Paine (who could play on both wings did this well, as did HIS understudy David Chadwick and later players such as Tommy Jenkins and Terrry Curran (although they didn't have anywhere near Paine's talent). These days good wingers are rare, and seldom seen in internationals. Downing is (IMHO), a complete waste of space and his England career was promoted by his (former club manager) McLaren.

 

However having said that, I am impressed by Aaron Lennon playing an old fashioned winger's role for England. Equally so with Dirk Kuyt for Liverpool (who unfortunately is NOT English.)

[SFKA South Woodford]

I think WGS had some sort of " tactical thing " about playing left sided Fernandes on the right side..and Sturrock (or was it Wigley) got a few good games out Anders Svensson (a right sided midfielder) playing him on the left.

 

A right winger will try to pass the opposing left back down the line, whereas a left-footed player can cut inside on his favourite left foot..and in so doing turn the left back (inside), and shorten the distance to goal. Likewise for a right winger playing on the left. He will naturally use his right foot and cut inside his opposing back and not run the line.

At least thats the theory- I believe).

In the days when Saints played wingers, Terry Paine (who could play on both wings did this well, as did HIS understudy David Chadwick and later players such as Tommy Jenkins and Terrry Curran (although they didn't have anywhere near Paine's talent). These days good wingers are rare, and seldom seen in internationals. Downing is (IMHO), a complete waste of space and his England career was promoted by his (former club manager) McLaren.

 

However having said that, I am impressed by Aaron Lennon playing an old fashioned winger's role for England. Equally so with Dirk Kuyt for Liverpool (who unfortunately is NOT English.)

 

Only problem with that though, is that we never attack the inswinging ball in the correct place. No Saints players ever seem to make a near post run across the keeper. Consequently all cutting inside does, is produce either a lightweight shot or a floating cross, both of which are easy for a goalkeeper to collect.

[david in sweden]

Only problem with that though, is that we never attack the inswinging ball in the correct place. No Saints players ever seem to make a near post run across the keeper. Consequently all cutting inside does, is produce either a lightweight shot or a floating cross, both of which are easy for a goalkeeper to collect.

 

That's the flaw in the plan of course, it's really down to a coaching problem ..

What do you say Mark ...?

[NickG]

cracking goal again,

 

well done to Wotte -DMG said in post match interview was being man marked in centre so Wotte told him to try coming in from right - first time scored.

[Um Bongo]

Scored a fantastic goal, didn't do much else.

 

Still, won us the game.

[NickG]

did he say he has been awarded another goal on post match interviews? caught the end of it and said an own goal has just been given to him.

 

Think, not checked, that gives him about 11 or 12 league goals?

 

For first season and in a poor team that's not bad.

 

I know below were in top division but also had better players around them etc.

 

84/85 Moran 12

85/86 Armstrong 10

86/87 Clarke 20

87/88 Clarke 16

88/89 Rod Wallace 12

89/90 Le Tissier 20

90/91 Le Tissier 19

91/92 Shearer 13

92/93 Le Tissier 15

93/94 Le Tissier 25

94/95 Le Tissier 19

95/96 Shipperley/ Le Tissier 7

96/97 Le Tissier 13

97/98 Le Tissier/ Ostenstad 11

98/99 Le Tissier/ Ostenstad 7

99/00 Pahars 13

00/01 Beattie 11

01/02 Pahars 14

02/03 Beattie 23

03/04 Beattie 14

04/05 Crouch 12

05/06 Fuller 9

06/07 Rasiak 21

07/08 John

[OldNick]

did he say he has been awarded another goal on post match interviews? caught the end of it and said an own goal has just been given to him.

 

Think, not checked, that gives him about 11 or 12 league goals?

 

For first season and in a poor team that's not bad.

 

I know below were in top division but also had better players around them etc.

 

84/85 Moran 12

85/86 Armstrong 10

86/87 Clarke 20

87/88 Clarke 16

88/89 Rod Wallace 12

89/90 Le Tissier 20

90/91 Le Tissier 19

91/92 Shearer 13

92/93 Le Tissier 15

93/94 Le Tissier 25

94/95 Le Tissier 19

95/96 Shipperley/ Le Tissier 7

96/97 Le Tissier 13

97/98 Le Tissier/ Ostenstad 11

98/99 Le Tissier/ Ostenstad 7

99/00 Pahars 13

00/01 Beattie 11

01/02 Pahars 14

02/03 Beattie 23

03/04 Beattie 14

04/05 Crouch 12

05/06 Fuller 9

06/07 Rasiak 21

07/08 John

It was a goal against Doncaster that has just been awarded back to him i think he said. 14 for the season but that probably includes cup games.

Still a good return from a raw talent.

[isking]

I saw DMG play for the under 18's a few seasons back he played right up top but you could see he wasn't happy there he was droppin deep trying to get involved more and I said at the time that he would end up playing in the hole.