david in sweden Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 now that we have a breathing space, and are waitinfgfor Pinnacle and their mystery buyer to tie up the deal..is anyone at the club having second thoughts about OK-ing the Dyer deal with Swansea. I only ask because Swans seem to think they have us in a corner and want to get him ..on the cheap. This and other deals should be scrutinized so that we don't lose whatever "crown jewels " we have left and they go for a pittance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I think the Dyer deal may be on hold due to the fact that Wigan are rumoured to be interested in acquiring the services of Roberto Martinez as their new manager should they lose Steve Bruce to Sunderland. The way I see it though, is that Dyer doesn't want to be at Saints playing in League One, so I expect him to leave at some point this summer. Whether it's to Swansea though remains to be seen, but with new owners, we might be in a position to demand a higher transfer fee and get a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 At 400k he is massively under valued. I would like him to stay but can't see him wanting to play for us next season. I think as Bailey mentioned we are now in a much stronger position as we don't "have" to sell anyone(Surman, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Dyer etc). Thus we can demand much higher prices for them if these players want to leave and bids come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Personally I think Friday's announcement changed everything and had the administrators needed more time then and money to pay the wages then Dyer would be a Swansea player already. I cannot see him leaving for 400k now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Dyer can jog on, I dont care. McGlaggon looks a very similar type of player with just the same attributes and I wouldnt want them both in my team. Dyer is older, had developed less than we all expected and is on a good deal more money. If Dyer wants out, I say let him. Decent enough player but if he doesnt want to be a part of a new chapter is SFC's storied history then we shouldnt let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Any player that wants to go should be allowed to . On condition, of course, that a sensible fee is arranged which is enough for us to buy players that want to come here. We have to cut our cloth according to our means and if that means chopping and changing for the start of the season, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Not at all sad to see him leave but £400k is too cheap and should not be accepted if it's no longer a neccessity to do so. Worth about £700k IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Not at all sad to see him leave but £400k is too cheap and should not be accepted if it's no longer a neccessity to do so. Worth about £700k IMO. When you consider they want to buy Anderson from Liverpool for 1million who has less experience than Dyer yet arguably wasnt as good as Dyer has been for Swansea 700k is a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Clearly Swansea have been trying to take advantage of our perilous postion but that has now changed and should they still want him then I think that they should be obliged to pay the amount which they agreed at the time of the original loan or just bugger off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swansea_city/8076143.stm At the bottom of that article, it says that Swansea are set to sign Dyer on Monday. Maybe we will lose him for as little as 400K after all. I had hoped that an impending takeover would result in us being able to ask for a higher transfer fee. Time will tell I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Providing the takeover comes to fruition just consider the 400k as additional transfer funds. You can buy two or three decent players at this level for that money......given a manager who is familiar with this league !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Providing the takeover comes to fruition just consider the 400k as additional transfer funds. You can buy two or three decent players at this level for that money......given a manager who is familiar with this league !!! Rather put the money towards signing JP Saeijs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Personally I think Friday's announcement changed everything and had the administrators needed more time then and money to pay the wages then Dyer would be a Swansea player already. I cannot see him leaving for 400k now. I think Swansea were hoping for us to hit the sh*tcart so they could get Dyer for nothing. While I don't blame them for that, I would be well chuffed if we turned round to them and added a couple of hundred thousand to the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Fair value - he might do okay, but if they start to struggle he seems to be the kind of character that you wouldn't want around. With McLaggon & Thompson both likely to feature strongly I'd rather have the money to spend on someone who wants to play for us than Dyer, I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 We should have got rid of him ages ago. I'd take the 400k now, don't want him here next season and 400k could be usefull in signing a player who isn't a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I saw in the paper it was 200k plus addons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 to be honest I'm surprised Swansea want him, and I say that not because of the bagge he has btu because in the game I saw him play for Swansea he didn't look like he was any better than when he played for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Not at all sad to see him leave but £400k is too cheap and should not be accepted if it's no longer a neccessity to do so. Worth about £700k IMO. The going rate for developing young players (fixed by previous tribunals) seems to be around £600k (that's what we got for Leon Best) so in a normal market your figure of £700k ought to be about right ! I did read somewhere though that Swansea agreed to a sum of £500k if they were to buy him at the end of the loan period so worstways we should hold them to that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 He's played about half a season for us and been, in the main, sh!te. I think 400k is a fair approximation of his worth. I really hope that him and BWP are nowhere near a Saints shirt next season, nothing to do with off-the-field stuff... but because they are both sh!te with p!ss poor attitudes. It's time to despense with prima donnas who are not as good as they think they are and move on with some honest hard working players who are actually going to give a sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think this may now be on hold as Martinez may be off to Celtic - approach has been made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Swansea have been playing high stakes poker, trying to see who blinks first. When it looked a few days ago that we might go into liquidation, they were hoping to get Dyer for nothing. Now, because they delayed, it is us who have the strong hand, as we do not have to sell him if things go ahead with the takeover. We should play hardball with Swansea and if they really value him, then they will have to pay a fair price for him, not some knock down bargain basement sum that they think that we will be forced to accept through expedience. Otherwise, I wouldn't be averse to seeing him go, as personally I believe that he should have been offloaded as soon as he dipped his sticky little fingers into that handbag, but otherwise we don't want players who don't want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2009 The going rate for developing young players (fixed by previous tribunals) seems to be around £600k (that's what we got for Leon Best) so in a normal market your figure of £700k ought to be about right ! I did read somewhere though that Swansea agreed to a sum of £500k if they were to buy him at the end of the loan period so worstways we should hold them to that !! as someone else has written ..we got scre*ed on that one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 The convicted burglar has gone....it's a done deal £400 K on the official site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Personally I think Friday's announcement changed everything and had the administrators needed more time then and money to pay the wages then Dyer would be a Swansea player already. I cannot see him leaving for 400k now. How about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 The convicted burglar has gone....it's a done deal £400 K on the official site... Good, just got to get rid of his chum BWP,and the rest of the money drains and we'll be AOK.Sad to see Saga still being referred to as "Saint's Striker" on the OS today,ex Saint's Striker would please me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivvy1664 Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Look at my face am I Bovvered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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