CB Fry

I don't see that as being a particular problem with a 32,000 capacity stadium and Premier League TV money. Plenty of other clubs have waited and are still waiting for new grounds but it hasn't stopped Spurs finishing fourth, Everton finishing top eight or Chelsea winning the Champions League. Our ground as it is is not going to stop up acheiving any of our ambitions. And as for the 90% thing, do you propose we keep expanding and expanding until we're at, what, 80% capacity all the time? Full stadiums, in professional football are in themselves a good thing.

I don't have shred of evidence to support the fact that Derby and Forest are about the same as us? Really? Thirty odd years of attendances when all three clubs have been in similar circumstances at similar times. Next. So Wigan attendance in our super new Cortesedome? Less than 30k then. Brilliant. Next. You are often keen to suggest Saints are in some unique position compared to other clubs. We aint. And you don't have a shred of evidence. Next. So not enough Pompey fans to justify a stadium expansion on then. Any shreds here? No? Next. The away fans thing is just simple horses hit anyway. We shouldn't do it, and if we need to do it to pay for a stadium expansion then we don't need the expansion. Any other clubs built multi million pound expansions with away fans specifically in mind? Any shreddy-weds here? No? Next. And sorry... you NEVER agree with my final line, hence all your fairy stories about catchment area, away fan ticket bonanzas, pompey fans, and all the rest of it. All garbage you don't have a shred of evidence to support. You see, I don't need a shred of evidence. I am waiting for a season ticket waiting list and consistent sell outs for low category games. No evidence needed, because I am not making up theories. You are. All the time. Where's your shreds of evidence?

Nottingham does sustain two clubs alongside Derby. Derby and Forest are essentially the same size clubs as us with the same potential. I am not sure how you can try and mock me for pointing out something that is true. Whatever dopey attendance you have in your head for SolentCityMegaSaints, Derby and Forest could match or beat that number with the same on-pitch success you have in your head for MegaSolentSaintsCity FC. Match it or beat it. Pompey fans are not going to become Saints fans. Just like Wigan aren't going to bring 4,000 fans just because we put them on sale. As usual all your arguments are based on wild, baseless guesses. I say something different. Lets establish a significant, sustained, TANGIBLE increase in demand first.

How about we expand the ground based on consistent sustainable demand from fans of Southampton Football Club? How about that? Your wittering about how brilliant it will be to pile in loads more away fans than we need is the only thing that is childish here. Stop grizzling.

If Notts C went out of business today I'd expect a pheonix club to be formed as they are a club with a great heritage, and they'd get considerable help from Italy with their long standing links with Juve. What I don't think would happen is their fanbase would charge off down the City ground to buy red and white scarfs. And what does happen right now is that Saints have never got significantly bigger gates than Forest when the clubs have been in comparable situations, which goes against your stupid point in the first place. Forest have just as much if not more potential to grow gates as Saints. County or no County. And County are not going to disappear. Get it?

If I had a penis that dispensed tiling grout, would local plumbers pay to wan k me off? A simple yes or no, please.

You are nuts. How about we don't expand if there is not sufficient demand from the core supporter base? How about that? In case you haven't noticed the club is run as a business and is unlikely to spunk millions and millions on new seats knowing they are going to be empty and then needing to sell them to away fans. Desperately selling any seat to anyone, by the way, doesn't sound like a "profit" strategy despite your pathetic attempt to talk down to me. It sounds like a "sh it, we need to break even" strategy. You are mental.

Building a stadium expansion with the plan to fill it with more away fans is mental. Mental. That's why no major club does it or would even consider it. Get it? Get it? And you dinlows portray yourselves as the "positive" ones. Building seats in order to bus in West Ham fans. How is that positive? Nottingham is plenty big enough for two clubs. Forest has us much potential and catchment as us if not more so.

Proportion is irrelevent after 30k isn't it? So why on gods earth should we be expanding the ground specifically to cater for four or more thousand away fans? Why? Typical nonsense from the "visionaries" again. Just nuts. Oh well, he'll be tw atting on about Nottingham Forest being crippled by the existance of Notts County again soon.

Well, yes. It's a internet forum. What were you expecting? PS. I am right.

Quick Frank, start accusing others of being "negative". It's basically all you've left because your Bayern price slash is in tatters.

The guy you quoted has said we shouldn't even consider it until we've finished top five twice...well I think that is far closer to the "Dell-sized mentality" view than the views of MLG and the "visionaries" who say we need to expand now, and fill it by slashing prices because that's what Bayern Munich and easyjet do. The first line of Melmacian Saint's post is the Dell-sized mentality in a nutshell and is spot on. If you can find any "Dell-sized" contributor (Me/Kraken/Turkish/TCM/Hypo/any nornal human) saying we should never expand ever then well done, but you won't.

It's ridiculous - they already sponsor Blackpool don't they? And you can't move for gambling ads and sponsorship all over football. And beer. And crisps. And chocolate. Football is a slag. Get over it everyone.

If we aim for that we're down.

It is these days. Point a game probably will be enough. Ten wins is what we need really.

Eh? Dean Richards was free. Svennson was £2m. I don't remember Buttner being a massive fee. We could have got some good defenders in for £12m.

Should we have kept Mark Wotte when we got relegated four years ago?

That'll be the dynamic pricing model in German Beerhalls, great for getting bums on seats, and at great prices for the common man: pubs in Southampton really should be following suit.

Is it just me who is familiar with the short-lived early 90s BBC sitcom of the same name? Not strictly Saints related, but it did have the wonderful Jim Broadbent in it.

We're only three days away from people saying ten games is not enough to get a true picture, let's see where we are at Christmas.

As am I but he has to be responsible for our defensive unit. It's his team. It's his defensive unit. You seem to be making out that he is an innocent bystander to our defence.

Who gets the credit for our promotion then? Presumably Adkins had nothing to do with it?

No we didn't.

I would be surprised if any West Ham fans give us a moments thought to be honest.