VectisSaint

3 is for violent conduct only. 2 for offensive behavior. Othrr offences are 1. 2 yellows is also 1. Wanyama got 2 matches because it was his second red of the season.

It may have happened in the past but really there is nothing to suggest that losing to Saints is the last straw. Its simply that the Utd fans are fed up with the awful performances, 0 first half goals, worst team in PL history based on points after 23 games. No signs of improvement and boring football.

Stiffness? Not usually a problem is it?

I was thinking whether Sepp Blatter might think it was good idea for the womens game but thought I'd better keep it to myself otherwise I might get called sexist.

Never usef to be a problem when we played skins v shirts. Most players already wear skin tight garments under their shirts, pretty obvious when Charlie came on yesterday. The long sleeved green vest was a very different colour to his short sleeved shirt. Seems such an obvious thing to do.

Shame, its better when old slowcoach plays

It doesn't always indicate anything but its lets say unusual when a player is obviously missing in these pictures and videos that the club deliberately put out there. I never heard anyone say what was wrong, did anyone ask Ronald in the pre-match build up? He did get clattered in the Watford game but looked ok against WBA and was training on Monday with Charlie. Would like him to be back for Arsenal.

Don't know why players don't adopt the skin tight shirts. Most of them wear them underneath anyway.

Different formation as you say, Long playing, Forster back, Charlie signing and Pelle nowhere to be seen. Not sure what's changed?

What happened to the mouse?

The U18s really have become very disappointing, though as you say quite a few have been playing with the U21s. The Club really need to be looking at whether we have the best coaches possible, the evidence suggests we don't. Minor point but Isgrove is not an U21.

Called that right then. Perhaps an apology from the arsehole on here might be forthcoming, won't hold my breath though. Big miss, but I have faith that Clasie can do the job, though we may see a lack of pace to some extent without Davo.

No-one ever said it did. Why do I need to wind my neck in for making an observation based on evidence? Why do you think he is missing? Any sensible suggestions, probably a bit hard for you.

Bull****. If Gaston is in the videos it merely indicates he probably would be available for the squad, doesn't mean he'll be in the matchday squad, and certainly not that he will play.

Speculation based on available evidence. May be ********, just offered up as an observation. Perhaps he was doing an interview at the time. Ronald did hint at a few minor issues, though he only specifically mentioned Pelle's knee. Would have thought if Davis isn't available then play Clasie in his place with Wanyama and either Romeu or JWP.

Looks like Steve Davis may be missing tomorrow. Noticeably absent from the training videos (Shane Long interview) and pictures that I have seen. Couple of people on here will be pleased.

Blackstock played 9 PL matches for us, your criteria in the original post was 8 as a breakthrough. So he should count. Kenwyne was 19 when he joined us, was considered as youth development at the time when Rupert brought him in. Just because he turned out to be a **** doesn't preclude him. Gallagher has made 20 PL appearances so under your criteria he should count Agree about Crainie and Mills, Crainie is an object lesson of how to blow the talent of someone who was regularly England U21 Captain. Thanks partly to Arry.

This is true, we should all have a great deal of sympathy with Gaston and the trauma he must have suffered living in Hull. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, not even Gaston's mate Alpine. Hull City of Culture 2017. [OK, confess I have never been to Kingston upon Hull, went very near it once when we crossed the Humber Bridge]

...until yesterday.

Seems plausible, the standard of journalism in that article is risible.

Bit different for a keeper though. He is only 18, no keeper breaks through at 18. Butland is considered young for a keeper but he is nearly 23.

He left Hull on 13 May due to his hamstring injury which occurred a couple of weeks before. So that was 8.5 months in total at Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Gaston-Ramirez-leave-Hull-City-hamstring-injury/story-26488052-detail/story.html

Could be more evidence of what some people can see that our much acclaimed Academy is going backwards (or at least not progressing) with poor quality coaches and the Club resting on its laurels beieving their own hype that we have the best Academy.

Not so much under-rated as misunderstood by some "supporters" who couldn't or wouldn't understand his role in the team and thought he was crap because he didn't score loads of goals. People without the insight to see how important he was to the team and how he did it without being spectacular. One of our best ever midfielders, very badly treated by George ****ing Burley, one of our worst ever managers.

Harry Isted has left by mutual consent.