Saint86

The reason our support is "woeful" is because Leslie sold every fan favourite player and used PR connections to demonise them in the press. The result is a fanbase which expects all the players to leave us, and has very little connection to the team... we have no songs, we expect the players to leave us because we are told that is our place in the pyramid... and Leslie insists on playing snoozeball footy... Going to the championship and struggling there won't change any of this. All it would do is ensure we sell even more key players and have a poorer standard of football.

Seen Adkins name mentioned a lot on the forum today. 1.) Would fans be happy with Adkins, but struggling in the prem and possibly relegated and playing championship footy next year (with the kids)? Alternatives being: 2.) Sacking the manager and getting someone like BFS / Pulis 3.) More of the same, either with mopey or a mopey/Puel clone? For me, I would prefer to play attacking football, and dropping out of form players for kids. Even if that meant we struggled. I should add that I don't think there is a cat in hell's chance of us appointing Adkins as manager! Just curious of the fans wider mood?

There was already a thread covering this. It all went wrong when cortese was forced out, possibly when ML died and we became little more than a cash cow.

Has to go soon surely. Failed horrendously from the moment cortese left. Lost poch, fell out with koeman, the summer of discontent (at his stewardship) wanyama, Morgan, forster... God it just goes on and on.

Quite, we have the usual Les Reed cultists on here to defend him through thick and thin as well; they'll even blindly deny how good Koeman's team was

It should be a Les Reed out protest. Short sightedness again from the fans.

From nearly getting champions league footy.... To a relegation scrap. All in less than a season and a half of complete, free range, Les Reed stewardship. Hopefully not much of it left. The man who helped hold saints back from our potential, yet who also gets the praise for our rise. A true worm, rotting us from the inside whilst he goes about his daily life. What is one of our mantra's, "no one is bigger than the club"....

The worst in the league by some way.... But according to some on here.... Puel was the saviour?!?!?

Fair, I agree to the above

I think all that goes to show is that football fans are foolish and will moan regardless. The footy under koeman was pretty darn good on the whole. He had a bad blip where the fans were getting nervous, but most managers will have that with saints lets be honest. Particularly given the villa and Sunderland smashings.

Interview with Mopey in the Daily Mail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5078537/Mauricio-Pellegrino-vows-fulfill-Southampton-s-ambition.html

He isn't right. If Puel does well there it shows that the team here is not good enough. As simple as that.

Eh, we used to hoof it up field to Pelle and Long with Koeman? Plus we attacked teams with pace and overlapping full backs! I'm not saying he is the messiah or magic fix. But lets not write paintative rubbish about our best ever prem manager and the guy who almost got us Champions League footy Mind you, he did have Toby, Mane, Pelle, Wanyama, Morgan etc. Perhaps the fault lies with our recruitment and retention policies. I am not sure Koeman would do much better than Puel or Mopey.

Was telegraphed months ago tbh. If he wants the holland job he has played a blinder tbh. Either does well at Everton or gets a whopper pay out, and guaranteed the Holland job if he wants it. Koeman knows how to play the game; that is for sure.

It worked with our old manager

Yes lol

Yup, and 51 years ago, the same posters would be telling us we should be happy with 2nd / 3rd tier.

This is true, also the goal at Burnley was a free cross and a free header. Not really much the keeper can do when that happens soo much.

Are any good DoF available to buy?

Dell sized to the limit.

Steven Davis is sadly undervalued by a large portion of the fanbase. I'm just sad he won't get to see a world cup.

That is just a click bait web page created by a spotty teenager during his college free period....

I remember the good old days when we could look forward to games knowing we could get points of anyone

Cheers Sotonist, in that case I'll treat is as an indication of how our season is going vs the previous season (and I think it does provide a fair indication). However I don't think we're in for relegation just yet so will be interesting to see how the season pans out. I think i vaguely recall seeing this done for saints previously, which I assume was you then? I remember it being interesting at the time.

All that hard work and investment - just to throw it all away