washsaint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Hopefully not counting too many chickens but........ Winners Saints fans - we all have a club to support (that looked dicey last week!), with, hopefully, a completely fresh start with none of the old faces Markus Liebherr - he will have an army of Saints supporters who will be so grateful to him for saving our club *****il the first rocky patch!) and has, potentially, a great investment Mark Wotte - whatever happens, the guy has shown great commitment and dignity in a very difficult time Losers All the old board - lost loads of money and between them all managed to massively divide the fanbase. Judgement of Crouch et al was also shown to be highly dubious (e.g. Wilde support then Pinnacle) Barclays - their stupidity in ensuring administration means that they will, hopefully, lose a lot of money Le Tiss - will always be a legend, no matter what, but his poor judgement in fronting Pinnacle without necessraily carrying out due diligence highlighted, once again, why having a fan in charge is not necessarily a good thing Tonight, am just breathing a huge sigh of relief we have a club left to support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Well said washsaint! Could the good times be coming our way at last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records Could think of other words But, very well said washsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records Which one? Both of them, along with Askham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 WINNER - Mark Fry, will be getting paid very handsomely out of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Losers Le Tiss - will always be a legend, no matter what, but his poor judgement in fronting Pinnacle without necessraily carrying out due diligence highlighted, once again, why having a fan in charge is not necessarily a good thing Very good post but speculating as to what MLT did or didn't so spoils it somewhat. One thing I'm sure of that assuming this all goes through Le Tiss will consider all Saints fans winner and that includes himself. He'll always be a winner in my book and no way in hell am I going to criticise the one ex Saints player who at least tried to do something. By the way I do hope Wotte is a winner in this, he deserves to be part of our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 (edited) Markus Liebherr Who's the guy behind RL? Is it Markus? Next to a blonde woman too. ps calm down all the conspiracy freaks -even if it is it just means in was in the directors box -not that him and Lowe are in cahoots. Edited 7 July, 2009 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Who's the guy behind RL? Is it Markus? ps calm down all the conspiracy freaks -even if it is it just means in was in the directors box -not him and Lowe are in cahoots. That's Southampton's finest coroner, Keith "The Welsh FA" Wiseman (not in your picture, but just behind Lowe and you can just make out the dagger he's about to put in his back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records it was you who mentioned him :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 That's Southampton's finest coroner, Keith "The Welsh FA" Wiseman He didnt leave his clothes on a beach somewhere and get washed up in Switzerland did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 He didnt leave his clothes on a beach somewhere and get washed up in Switzerland did he? Well he was stripped of his Chairmanship of the FA back in the 90's!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Well he was stripped of his Chairmanship of the FA back in the 90's!!!!! lol. I think its quite eery how alike they look in those pictures. How many slightly overweight white businessmen with glasses can there be in this world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 That's Southampton's finest coroner, Keith "The Welsh FA" Wiseman (not in your picture, but just behind Lowe and you can just make out the dagger he's about to put in his back) Whenever I read in the Echo about Coroner Keith Wiseman, I always wondered if it was the same bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records and that female reproductive organ behind him......thats right, you hang your head in shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Hopefully not counting too many chickens but........ Winners Saints fans - we all have a club to support (that looked dicey last week!), with, hopefully, a completely fresh start with none of the old faces Markus Liebherr - he will have an army of Saints supporters who will be so grateful to him for saving our club *****il the first rocky patch!) and has, potentially, a great investment Mark Wotte - whatever happens, the guy has shown great commitment and dignity in a very difficult time Losers All the old board - lost loads of money and between them all managed to massively divide the fanbase. Judgement of Crouch et al was also shown to be highly dubious (e.g. Wilde support then Pinnacle) Barclays - their stupidity in ensuring administration means that they will, hopefully, lose a lot of money Le Tiss - will always be a legend, no matter what, but his poor judgement in fronting Pinnacle without necessraily carrying out due diligence highlighted, once again, why having a fan in charge is not necessarily a good thing Tonight, am just breathing a huge sigh of relief we have a club left to support! What is this word supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What is this word supposed to mean? I think he may have mistakenly put a 'c' in front of the word 'until' looking at the rest of the sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Hopefully not counting too many chickens but........ Winners Saints fans - we all have a club to support (that looked dicey last week!), with, hopefully, a completely fresh start with none of the old faces Markus Liebherr - he will have an army of Saints supporters who will be so grateful to him for saving our club *****il the first rocky patch!) and has, potentially, a great investment Mark Wotte - whatever happens, the guy has shown great commitment and dignity in a very difficult time Losers All the old board - lost loads of money and between them all managed to massively divide the fanbase. Judgement of Crouch et al was also shown to be highly dubious (e.g. Wilde support then Pinnacle) Barclays - their stupidity in ensuring administration means that they will, hopefully, lose a lot of money Le Tiss - will always be a legend, no matter what, but his poor judgement in fronting Pinnacle without necessraily carrying out due diligence highlighted, once again, why having a fan in charge is not necessarily a good thing Tonight, am just breathing a huge sigh of relief we have a club left to support! washsaint ...VERY INTERESTING...I can see right through you...Having a dig at Leon Crouch and MLT...BUT I notice you have no heart to mention one Rupert Lowe by name, even after all his exploits:smt007...I wonder why?.Was there any need to mention anyone by name after stating..All the old board...You just can't help yourself....Bye Bye to your little troupe leader:smt039 YOU ARE PATHETIC ...After all Crouch and Le God have done for this club AND what your little urchin has done for this club.... This is not the time to start your little games,,matey.. You my friend are a piece of work. To me YOU and Rupert are the real LOSERS Onwards and upwards and better days ahead:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 As far as I am concerned, MLT hasnt lost a thing, unless he put his own money into the Pinnacle bid. I reckon I am on safe ground if I claim that no real Saints fan will think any less of him for trying to rescue the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 washsaint ...VERY INTERESTING...I can see right through you...Having a dig at Leon Crouch and MLT...BUT I notice you have no heart to mention one Rupert Lowe by name, even after all his exploits:smt007...I wonder why?. I had to chuckle at the not so subtle inclusion of Crouch and the omission of Lowe from his little post;) I wonder if he'll start a thread like this again:D http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=347556#post347556 dinlo me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I had to chuckle at the not so subtle inclusion of Crouch and the omission of Lowe from his little post;) I wonder if he'll start a thread like this again:D http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=347556#post347556 dinlo me up washsaint and others like him... (me, a very young ottery, included) have NOW got to let the past go. :smt039 Many made mistakes but we live to fight another day.......But washsaint frustrated the hell out of me with his very dirty little dig..:smt073 when the rest of the post seemed to be in the spirit of current great times for us. But then I expect no less from washsaint especially as I know how much God meant to him...:smt007 Time to come together washsaint as one group of supporters FOR the mighty Saints.....You leave Uncle Leon and cousin MLT outa this... COYRs:smt007:smt007:smt007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Oh dear.......... This post had nothing to do with Lowe et al. I'm glad Lowe has gone: I'm glad they're all gone and the club can have a fresh start. The reason Lowe was not mentioned is that Crouch and MLT helped to perpetuate the myth that was Pinnacle and could have so easily killed the club completely. If FF questioned Pinnacle and their backing, that's good enough for me: whilst not agreeing with all of FF's comments I respect the guy and it's possibel to have debate with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 it's possibel to have debate with him. I've always found starting a thread with: Question for Alpine and other morons...... as a good way of engendering debate:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Oh dear.......... This post had nothing to do with Lowe et al. I'm glad Lowe has gone: I'm glad they're all gone and the club can have a fresh start. The reason Lowe was not mentioned is that Crouch and MLT helped to perpetuate the myth that was Pinnacle and could have so easily killed the club completely. If FF questioned Pinnacle and their backing, that's good enough for me: whilst not agreeing with all of FF's comments I respect the guy and it's possibel to have debate with him. As above at post 22;) So basically you are going to be selective about our history.... Killed the club:rolleyes: For FLUUUUUCK sake....others you love so dearly made a big effort to do that ..including Lowe, Wilde and Wotte and JP..NOT forgetting Phil The Whale..:smt073 YOU miss the point...You did not need to mention Crouchey and MLT...They are real WINNERS......aNYWAY LET US LEAVE IT THERE...:smt039 oNWARDS AND UPWARDS FOR sAINTS..:smt007:smt007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 As far as I am concerned, MLT hasnt lost a thing, unless he put his own money into the Pinnacle bid. I reckon I am on safe ground if I claim that no real Saints fan will think any less of him for trying to rescue the club. please don't bring up the Matty/Pinacle thing again, it is easily summed up really, 1/ Matty is a ****ing God like superstar for what he has done on the pitch for this club, his ONLY club. 2/ Even after playing he was a continual supporter of this club, we got talked about regulary on SSN, which frankly in the last 2/3 years was a good thing and we didn't get too many good things. 3/ Only Matty knows the truth behind his backing of Pinacle and no doubt he might come out and say something once its sorted, until then his only crime, nope, thats the wrong word, his only mistake (as we can see it without the other side of the story) was supporting a group that seemingly convinced everyone (includeing the ****ing administrator!) that they were going to bankroll us back to the PL within 5 years. You are right, no real Saints fan should think any less of him for trying to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Why knock Matt, he was the only ex player who tried to save the situation, he's more of a true Saint, hero and legend in my book, not less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 MLT was taken in and so were half the posters on this board, so what ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Oh dear.......... This post had nothing to do with Lowe et al. I'm glad Lowe has gone: I'm glad they're all gone and the club can have a fresh start. The reason Lowe was not mentioned is that Crouch and MLT helped to perpetuate the myth that was Pinnacle and could have so easily killed the club completely. If FF questioned Pinnacle and their backing, that's good enough for me: whilst not agreeing with all of FF's comments I respect the guy and it's possibel to have debate with him. Only a **** would sue the passerby doctor for helping at a car crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I've always found starting a thread with: Question for Alpine and other morons...... as a good way of engendering debate:rolleyes: And entrenching views and opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 LOSER - Let this smug self righteous **** be stricken from all records HE IS JUST A **** That is C U N T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Losers:- Those small shareholders, like myself, who invested a few quid in shares, transferred voting rights to the Saints Trust to try and oust Lowe and have ended up doing our dough. That said I am extremely pleased with where we now are and I am looking forward to the new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Losers:- Those small shareholders, like myself, who invested a few quid in shares, transferred voting rights to the Saints Trust to try and oust Lowe and have ended up doing our dough. That said I am extremely pleased with where we now are and I am looking forward to the new season. Also lost my small shareholding, as did my son, for whom I bought shares as a birthday present some years ago. But I'd happily lose several times that amount to achieve the result that we have and anyway, they were value for money for the ability to watch the clowns in action at AGMs. I'll miss the AGMs, but am happy that we are no longer a PLC and have ridded ourselves of all that dross, all those business minnows who didn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Also lost my small shareholding, as did my son, for whom I bought shares as a birthday present some years ago. But I'd happily lose several times that amount to achieve the result that we have and anyway, they were value for money for the ability to watch the clowns in action at AGMs. I'll miss the AGMs, but am happy that we are no longer a PLC and have ridded ourselves of all that dross, all those business minnows who didn't have a clue. I agree but I wonder who is going to run the club and whether Leon is a winner or loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 There have been no winners, especially the small local creditors. We are all indebted to them, and I would like them to be paid somehow. But doesn't the club have to commit to eventually settling all debts in order to get the CVA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Hopefully not counting too many chickens but........ Winners Saints fans - we all have a club to support (that looked dicey last week!), with, hopefully, a completely fresh start with none of the old faces Markus Liebherr - he will have an army of Saints supporters who will be so grateful to him for saving our club *****il the first rocky patch!) and has, potentially, a great investment Mark Wotte - whatever happens, the guy has shown great commitment and dignity in a very difficult time Losers All the old board - lost loads of money and between them all managed to massively divide the fanbase. Judgement of Crouch et al was also shown to be highly dubious (e.g. Wilde support then Pinnacle) Barclays - their stupidity in ensuring administration means that they will, hopefully, lose a lot of money Le Tiss - will always be a legend, no matter what, but his poor judgement in fronting Pinnacle without necessraily carrying out due diligence highlighted, once again, why having a fan in charge is not necessarily a good thing Tonight, am just breathing a huge sigh of relief we have a club left to support! Pretty accurate summary. Don't know if Wotte will be manager or will get an "upstairs" reward for loyalty. Annoying that Pinnacle have eaten into so much of pre-season preperation but we just have to get on with it. No sympathy for the old regime bar the rank and file fans like us who lost their shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 There have been no winners, especially the small local creditors. We are all indebted to them, and I would like them to be paid somehow. But doesn't the club have to commit to eventually settling all debts in order to get the CVA? That is a very good point actually and why administration really hurts small and medium-sized companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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