Saint_Jonny Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 worrying times ahead for them lot.... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Ladies and gentlemen, squeaky bum time is here. another day another nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 They're okay now, they've beaten Stoke reserves and have managed to increase their debt to pay the wages short term. I guess this glorious improvement will signal their fans returning here in droves. Bearing in mind they are likely to turn a corner at some point and the gobby ones will crawl out again, can we come up with an official name for this era for future reference? - The Great Silence, The Hush of 2009, The Year of the Tumbleweed? - something similar?...it needs to say shame, ridicule, failure and cowardice ideally. I just think we should remind every 'visitor' of these months on every future thread they try to hijack. Merovingian is obviously excluded from any of this as along with a couple of others he is braver than the rest so deserves respect, and though he doesn't realise yet, he's also our conversion project. He'll be there with us at Wembley in May, tattoos covered by Saints stickers... I have a saints fan sits next to me - rubbing it in that your going to wembley twice this season - once in the JPT and once in the play off final ! ha ha ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I have a saints fan sits next to me - rubbing it in that your going to wembley twice this season - once in the JPT and once in the play off final ! ha ha ! When do you think you'll next play there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I have a saints fan sits next to me - rubbing it in that your going to wembley twice this season - once in the JPT and once in the play off final ! ha ha ! Any reason why this can't happen if we continue our form of the last 5 games? If this transfer embargo lasts over January, where do you think you'll end up? It will mean you can't renew loans let alone sign frees! It's mad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Nothing like getting ahead of ourselves or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Any reason why this can't happen if we continue our form of the last 5 games? If this transfer embargo lasts over January, where do you think you'll end up? It will mean you can't renew loans let alone sign frees! It's mad! Hadn't thought of that... Hello fat lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Nothing like getting ahead of ourselves or anything... Don't be a spoil sport.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Hadn't thought of that... Hello fat lady. It seems only O'Hara would be effected by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Any reason why this can't happen if we continue our form of the last 5 games? If this transfer embargo lasts over January, where do you think you'll end up? It will mean you can't renew loans let alone sign frees! It's mad! it was a "ha ha" not because I do not reckon you could but coz he is winding up me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Hadn't thought of that... Hello fat lady. I thuink we are going down anyway, transfer embargo or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 It seems only O'Hara would be effected by this. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 :mad: Relax, he's been arguably their best loaner, it's gooooooooooooood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Relax, he's been arguably their best loaner, it's gooooooooooooood. Agreed. I have visions of them being back down to 12 senior players for a moment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Corpse has gone a bit quiet. Does this mean the Riquelme deal is off for a while then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 a tip for you Merov as over here we know a little about these things - if you do see wages missed, administrators circling, owners running away with furniture, players advertising themselves in the press and men with clipboards measuring the pitch to see how many houses they can get on it, you will be staggered to find that there will still be fans in denial standing among the rubble of the club still pointlessly debating centre back partnerships and demanding to know why the board hasn't appointed Wenger/Maradona/Moyes. The majority just won't get the seriousness and when the fat lady rides in with the four horsemen surrounding by vultures they will think it's just the half time entertainment. 'But no one goes out of business, something always comes up....' Yes, as long as there isn't a worldwide financial crisis that has wiped out huge sectors of those who would normally invest. We picked the wrong time to get relegated (twice), Pompey may have picked the wrong time to be in desperate need of investment. Then again a billionaire might sail in anyday, all he will have to do is try to make sense of who owns what, give them all a few million to bugger off, find the £30M for the arms dealer, £10 for tax, £25M to clear the newest loans, £50M for the next years outgoings, £20M for transfers in Jan, £5M to sort the managerial situation, the £3M for agents, £5M for other clubs, £10M for a training ground, £30M to redevelop Fratton (all figures approx but you get the picture), leaving him with a a ground half the size of St James Park and a club that has cost twice as much as Newcastle and has half the income potential. That will be one shrewd billionaire who can see a business beyond the problems. Or he will wait for the admin where all but the name will go to creditors and he can start from scratch on a new site - cost? £100M to launch in the Conference South? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 October, 2009 a tip for you Merov as over here we know a little about these things - if you do see wages missed, administrators circling, owners running away with furniture, players advertising themselves in the press and men with clipboards measuring the pitch to see how many houses they can get on it, you will be staggered to find that there will still be fans in denial standing among the rubble of the club still pointlessly debating centre back partnerships and demanding to know why the board hasn't appointed Wenger/Maradona/Moyes. The majority just won't get the seriousness and when the fat lady rides in with the four horsemen surrounding by vultures they will think it's just the half time entertainment. 'But no one goes out of business, something always comes up....' Yes, as long as there isn't a worldwide financial crisis that has wiped out huge sectors of those who would normally invest. We picked the wrong time to get relegated (twice), Pompey may have picked the wrong time to be in desperate need of investment. Then again a billionaire might sail in anyday, all he will have to do is try to make sense of who owns what, give them all a few million to bugger off, find the £30M for the arms dealer, £10 for tax, £25M to clear the newest loans, £50M for the next years outgoings, £20M for transfers in Jan, £5M to sort the managerial situation, the £3M for agents, £5M for other clubs, £10M for a training ground, £30M to redevelop Fratton (all figures approx but you get the picture), leaving him with a a ground half the size of St James Park and a club that has cost twice as much as Newcastle and has half the income potential. That will be one shrewd billionaire who can see a business beyond the problems. Or he will wait for the admin where all but the name will go to creditors and he can start from scratch on a new site - cost? £100M to launch in the Conference South? you paint a delightful picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 One interesting bit of news that seems to have slipped below the radar on here... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8328314.stm Arkadi Gaydamak convicted of illegal arms dealing and sentenced to 6 years in prision in absentia - he's currently in hiding in Russia, unsurprisingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 What significance does that have Steve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 A little bit of wee just came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 What significance does that have Steve? Probably not a great deal in the grand scheme of things, but the comments Peter Storrie made a few weeks ago about Arkadi having been the one making the decision as to who the club was sold to when the fake doctor got in ahead of the Saudis pretty much proved that it was Arkadi's money that had funded the club since Sacha's takeover. Getting all sensationalist for a second... the 2008 FA Cup was bought by illegal arms dealing proceeds Another seal of approval for the Fit and Proper Persons test as well :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 a tip for you Merov as over here we know a little about these things - if you do see wages missed, administrators circling, owners running away with furniture, players advertising themselves in the press and men with clipboards measuring the pitch to see how many houses they can get on it, you will be staggered to find that there will still be fans in denial standing among the rubble of the club still pointlessly debating centre back partnerships and demanding to know why the board hasn't appointed Wenger/Maradona/Moyes. The majority just won't get the seriousness and when the fat lady rides in with the four horsemen surrounding by vultures they will think it's just the half time entertainment. 'But no one goes out of business, something always comes up....' Yes, as long as there isn't a worldwide financial crisis that has wiped out huge sectors of those who would normally invest. We picked the wrong time to get relegated (twice), Pompey may have picked the wrong time to be in desperate need of investment. Then again a billionaire might sail in anyday, all he will have to do is try to make sense of who owns what, give them all a few million to bugger off, find the £30M for the arms dealer, £10 for tax, £25M to clear the newest loans, £50M for the next years outgoings, £20M for transfers in Jan, £5M to sort the managerial situation, the £3M for agents, £5M for other clubs, £10M for a training ground, £30M to redevelop Fratton (all figures approx but you get the picture), leaving him with a a ground half the size of St James Park and a club that has cost twice as much as Newcastle and has half the income potential. That will be one shrewd billionaire who can see a business beyond the problems. Or he will wait for the admin where all but the name will go to creditors and he can start from scratch on a new site - cost? £100M to launch in the Conference South? Jeez is it that bad down the road? Sorry cant wish that on any club - especially as we have been through it ourselves.. at the risk of going over old ground, it shows what over stretching the borrowings and trusting harry with the cheque book can lead... I would say this, but makes me glad Lowe was a tight fecker when fans were clamouring for him to spend big when in the prem... there but for the grace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 premier league have confirmed the tranny ban ! Going down with Harty and Grant, we're going down with Harty and Grant ! Fits in nicely with the Harry and Jim theme tune dontcha think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Jeez is it that bad down the road? Sorry cant wish that on any club - especially as we have been through it ourselves.. at the risk of going over old ground' date=' it shows what over stretching the borrowings and trusting harry with the cheque book can lead... I would say this, [b']but makes me glad Lowe was a tight fecker when fans were clamouring for him to spend big when in the prem... there but for the grace...[/b] A case in point that extremes of management have the same result. Long term failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 They owe money to Watford (for the Williamson transfer), Chelsea (% of Johnson sell on fee) and Arsenal (Diarra sell on fee). But it's all ok, no need to panic skates - a club source has confirmed on SSN that these issues will be resolved shortly, they have the money, but it's just down to a restructuring at the club that these issues have occurred. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 premier league have confirmed the tranny ban ! Going down with Harty and Grant, we're going down with Harty and Grant ! Fits in nicely with the Harry and Jim theme tune dontcha think ? What's Johnny Westwood been banned for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8329673.stm lol at the embargo, and lol at trying to sign Bopp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8329673.stm lol at the embargo, and lol at trying to sign Bopp! i think that's the funniest bit of it all tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 But it's all ok, no need to panic skates - a club source has confirmed on SSN that these issues will be resolved shortly, they have the money, but it's just down to a restructuring at the club that these issues have occurred. I'm sure they used exactly the same excuses when explaining why the wages weren't paid a month ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Are you listening crabby? Fecking hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8329673.stm lol at the embargo, and lol at trying to sign Bopp! oi - he is the new Diarra ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 oi - he is the new Diarra ! In the fact that you won't be paying for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Corpse has gone a bit quiet. Does this mean the Riquelme deal is off for a while then? Might have to make do with a season long loan for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Might have to make do with a season long loan for now. Except that loans aren't allowed in a transfer embargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 In the fact that you won't be paying for him? ZING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 the premier league also think Bopp's crap - hence the transfer embargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 the premier league also think Bopp's crap - hence the transfer embargo They're doing you a favour really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 In other news, Mr Gaydamak Snr has now been charged with gun running, even though he is still on the run: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6892954.ece Nout to do with this, but funny all the same I thought, after all didnt he have to agree who the club was sold to by Jnr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Post #3069 called and asked for its news back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Sky Sports News' chief news reporter Bryan Swanson understands the ban relates to unpaid instalments to clubs over previous transfers, in particular Lassana Diarra's move from Arsenal in January last year. It's normal practice for clubs to pay transfer fees over a number of instalments. Swanson has been told by Portsmouth officials that the club remains "relaxed" about the transfer ban and they expect the issue to be resolved as quickly as possible. A decision to lift the ban will be made by the Premier League board only when it is satisfied the club is acting in accordance with its new Financial Reporting rules, imposed this season. Swanson has been told that new owner Ali Al-Faraj is not now expected at Fratton Park for this weekend's league game against Wigan.yep, i'd be releaxed too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Post #3069 called and asked for its news back Ah crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint78 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Who are Pompey likely to lose for the African nations in january too? Utaka, Kanu, Belhadj and Dindane (if he's good enough to make the national team?!) off the top of my head. Let's hope the transfer ban is lifted by tehn or thy really will be in the doo doo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Who are Pompey likely to lose for the African nations in january too? Utaka, Kanu, Belhadj and Dindane (if he's good enough to make the national team?!) off the top of my head. Let's hope the transfer ban is lifted by tehn or thy really will be in the doo doo. ??? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 indeed - freudian slip ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint78 Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Sorry, sarcasm doesn't come across very easily on a message board. So when they go into admin any points deduction would apply from next season if they are relegated without it anyway. So we'll start next season in the championship with a 9 point advantage over our local rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Sorry, sarcasm doesn't come across very easily on a message board. So when they go into admin any points deduction would apply from next season if they are relegated without it anyway. So we'll start next season in the championship with a 9 point advantage over our local rivals. I think that there's a cut off date for that to happen - last year we went into administration a week after the date... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Where's Corps to give us a heads up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 I think that there's a cut off date for that to happen - last year we went into administration a week after the date... If memory serves it was an even more idiotic 3-4 days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 If memory serves it was an even more idiotic 3-4 days! If it weren't for those three days we would be one point off the play-offs and odds on for promotion! (perhaps, ceteris paribus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 28 October, 2009 Share Posted 28 October, 2009 Can we but hope that Marcus Liebherr needs a new depot or parking space for Liebherr vehicles and purchases Farton Dust Bowl for a pound, and merges the two clubs with Saints taking the Skates place in the Premiership. The Cherry on the cake would be the Skates requiring to apply for the Conference under the new ownership. Ah! What exciting times it is to be a Saints supporter again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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