saint_bert Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 (edited) After debating with my mate about Darrren Bent's likelyhood of gettin into Capellos WC plans I thought to myself who I would pick if everyone was fit and able. Now I like players that are comfortable in numerous positions so that effects my choices. Here's mine: Gk David James Ben Foster Robert Green Def John Terry Rio Ferdinand Glen Johnson Ashley Cole Ledley King Joeleon Lescott Matthew Upson Mid Frank Lampard Steven Gerrard Theo Walcott Gareth Barry David Beckham Joe Cole Ashley Young James Milner Str Wayne Rooney Peter Crouch Emile Heskey Jermain Defoe Darren Bent Now I think a WC squad is 25 players? IMO that squad has a good combination of pace, power and covers pretty much every position twice. What's your thoughts andmore importantly who would be your 25 man squad?? Edited 7 December, 2009 by saint_bert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Isn't it another year away yet? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 We have a terrible strikeforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 31 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Isn't it another year away yet? I have no idea. It is a year away I'm just being hypothetical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Bent should be no where near the squad, he is gash IMO. Swap Defoe for Bent & the squad you've posted above looks very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Beattie!!! Will score 30 goals for Stoke this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Now I think a WC squad is 25 players? 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 23. In which case lose Woodgate (because he will be injured anyway), Hargreaves (because he will be injured anyway) and Bent and leave a spot for an emerging talent from this season - perhaps the likes of Sturridge, or Agbonlahor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Still another year away, but i'd pick: GK Chris Kirkland Paul Robinson Ben Foster DEF Micah Richards Glen Johnson Ashley Cole Joleon Lescott Rio Ferdinand John Terry Phil Jagielka Michael Mancienne MID Ashley Young Theo Walcott Stewart Downing Steven Gerrard Frank Lampard Michael Carrick Gareth Barry Joe Cole FWD Wayne Rooney Michael Owen Jermaine Defoe Peter Crouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 I reckon a good season for Ebanks-Blake could put him in with a shout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 31 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Deffo need 5 strikers IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 i would have beckham in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 31 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Beckham in my squad deffo. For me you need players that can change a game. Various options etc. Beckham certainly sits in that catergorie IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 For a start its 23 players but my squad at this point would be; Rob Green David James Ben Foster Glen Johnson Wes Brown Rio Ferdinand John Terry Joleon Lescott Jon Woodgate Ashley Cole Wayne Bridge Theo Walcott David Beckham Michael Carrick Owen Hargreaves Steven Gerrard Frank Lampard Joe Cole Ashley Young Wayne Rooney Peter Crouch Michael Owen Jermain Defoe First XI would be (4-3-2-1); Green, Johnson, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, Walcott, Carrick, J. Cole, Gerrard, Rooney, Owen. Subs; James, Brown, Lescott, Beckham, Young, Hargreaves, Crouch. Simples... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 What no Oliver Lancashire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 (edited) What no Oliver Lancashire? LOL FWIW... This is so so difficult to decide, and would be easier if we could choose thirty. :-( I am going on the assumption that you can select 2 goalkeepers and are not enforced to pick 3, freeing up another space for an outfield player... Despite at GK, I believe there is great cover everywhere on the pitch; 2 LB's, 1 RB, 3 CB's and Jagielka, who can play at RB, LB, CB and CM. In midfield, we've 5 central midfielders, 2 who specialise in ball retention and good use of the ball (Carrick and Huddlestone, the latter who is grossly underrated IMO) which is going to crucial in the more difficult games and hotter climates, of which there will be a couple despite it being winter in SA. Furthermore, 3 offensive midfielders who can nick a goal for you; Gerrard, Lampard and Barry. Better still, Barry can also play LB or CB as well as CM. My only true concern is the complete lack of pace on the wing; Beckham, obviously lacks pace so the only two wide men I have who possess pace are Wright-Phillips and Lennon. Out of the two of them, perhaps Lennon is the most inconsistent but I believe that between him and Walcott, Lennon has performed on a more consistent basis in the PL. The difference between him and Walcott is that Theo still looks like a sprinter, Lennon looks like a winger - regardless of his infrequency. Ashley Young can consider himself incredibly unlucky. It's bad, but I'm choosing a squad without a natural LW. Upfront, I've gone for the pace of Defoe, the explosive qualities of Rooney, the consistency and aerial threat of Crouch, the ethic and bustle of Beattie and the proven track record of Michael Owen - who I believe will rediscover his form now he's got a manager who will kick him up the backside but more importantly, know how to handle him. MY ENGLAND WC SQUAD Green Foster A Cole Bridge Johnson Jagielka Woodgate Terry Ferdinand Huddlestone Lampard Gerrard Barry Wright-Phillips Beckham Lennon J Cole Carrick Crouch Defoe Owen Rooney Beattie Starting 11 (4-4-2) Green, G Johnson, A Cole, Terry ©, Ferdinand, Gerrard, J Cole, Lampard, Barry, Rooney, Owen. MISSING THE CUT Just missing out: Hart, Lescott, Warnock, Richards, A Young, Walcott, Milner, Hargreaves and Agbonlahor. I've picked Beattie just ahead of Heskey as I believe he has unfinished business. I've always believed he may have lacked alot of what international players had ability-wise but he made up for that in attitude, application and work-ethic. He's not phased by big games and would definitely be a player with the correct mentality who could step up and perform in them. I'm one of the few people I suppose who regarded the signing of Beattie by Stoke as a masterstroke. He's always still had it (Everton completely mismanaged him - he's not a lone striker!) and IMO he was never given a fair crack of the whip at international level. He sufferered like some of the other great english forwards like Ferdinand, Fowler etc from having simply better partnerships ahead of him. Milner, Young, Richards, Walcott and Lescott are also unfortunate to miss my 'cut'... one of the easier exclusions was probably Walcott. Having said that, he's just no consistent enough and it is not as if Lennon and Wright-Phillips cannot offer the same - and they have performed more consistently in the PL for years. Richards was difficult to leave at home though, but Jagielka just has the edge on versatility. I enjoyed doing that, I think :-o ___________________________ A few more players for everyones consideration... I've no idea why I have suggested some of them though - I'm going on the assumption that the likes of Sturridge, Kightly and Ebanks-Blake COULD have a good season and play themselves into contention... some are previous caps and some are possible fancies for the squad - if you're fecking mad enough... Carson, Kirkland, Hart, Robinson, James. S Taylor, Mancienne, King, Shawcross, Konchesky, Turner, W Brown, G Neville, P Neville, Cahill, L Young, Shorey, Warnock, Onuoha, Naughton, Wheater, A Gardner, C Davies, Knight, Baines, Dawson, Lescott, A Ferdinand, Campbell. Downing, Delph, Richardson, Etherington, Barton, O'Hara, Nolan, Davis, Pennant, C Gardner, Bullard, Sidwell, Parker, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Jenas, M Johnson, Cattermole, Kightly, Bentley, Adam Johnson, Whitehead. Ebanks-Blake, Zamora, Andy Johnson, Ashton, Windass, Sturridge, Campbell, Nugent, Heskey, Davies, D Bent, C Cole. Retired: Carragher, Scholes.... but if you were hypothetically speaking... If only Rory Delap were English :=( Edited 31 July, 2009 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 LOL FWIW... This is so so difficult to decide, and would be easier if we could choose thirty. :-( I am going on the assumption that you can select 2 goalkeepers and are not enforced to pick 3, freeing up another space for an outfield player... Despite at GK, I believe there is great cover everywhere on the pitch; 2 LB's, 1 RB, 3 CB's and Jagielka, who can play at RB, LB, CB and CM. In midfield, we've 5 central midfielders, 2 who specialise in ball retention and good use of the ball (Carrick and Huddlestone, the latter who is grossly underrated IMO) which is going to crucial in the more difficult games and hotter climates, of which there will be a couple despite it being winter in SA. Furthermore, 3 offensive midfielders who can nick a goal for you; Gerrard, Lampard and Barry. Better still, Barry can also play LB or CB as well as CM. My only true concern is the complete lack of pace on the wing; Beckham, obviously lacks pace so the only two wide men I have who possess pace are Wright-Phillips and Lennon. Out of the two of them, perhaps Lennon is the most inconsistent but I believe that between him and Walcott, Lennon has performed on a more consistent basis in the PL. The difference between him and Walcott is that Theo still looks like a sprinter, Lennon looks like a winger - regardless of his infrequency. Ashley Young can consider himself incredibly unlucky. It's bad, but I'm choosing a squad without a natural LW. Upfront, I've gone for the pace of Defoe, the explosive qualities of Rooney, the consistency and aerial threat of Crouch, the ethic and bustle of Beattie and the proven track record of Michael Owen - who I believe will rediscover his form now he's got a manager who will kick him up the backside but more importantly, know how to handle him. MY ENGLAND WC SQUAD Green Foster A Cole Bridge Johnson Jagielka Woodgate Terry Ferdinand Huddlestone Lampard Gerrard Barry Wright-Phillips Beckham Lennon J Cole Carrick Crouch Defoe Owen Rooney Beattie Starting 11 (4-4-2) Green, G Johnson, A Cole, Terry ©, Ferdinand, Gerrard, J Cole, Lampard, Barry, Rooney, Owen. MISSING THE CUT Just missing out: Hart, Lescott, Warnock, Richards, A Young, Walcott, Milner, Hargreaves and Agbonlahor. I've picked Beattie just ahead of Heskey as I believe he has unfinished business. I've always believed he may have lacked alot of what international players had ability-wise but he made up for that in attitude, application and work-ethic. He's not phased by big games and would definitely be a player with the correct mentality who could step up and perform in them. I'm one of the few people I suppose who regarded the signing of Beattie by Stoke as a masterstroke. He's always still had it (Everton completely mismanaged him - he's not a lone striker!) and IMO he was never given a fair crack of the whip at international level. He sufferered like some of the other great english forwards like Ferdinand, Fowler etc from having simply better partnerships ahead of him. Milner, Young, Richards, Walcott and Lescott are also unfortunate to miss my 'cut'... one of the easier exclusions was probably Walcott. Having said that, he's just no consistent enough and it is not as if Lennon and Wright-Phillips cannot offer the same - and they have performed more consistently in the PL for years. Richards was difficult to leave at home though, but Jagielka just has the edge on versatility. I enjoyed doing that, I think :-o ___________________________ A few more players for everyones consideration... I've no idea why I have suggested some of them though - I'm going on the assumption that the likes of Sturridge, Kightly and Ebanks-Blake COULD have a good season and play themselves into contention... some are previous caps and some are possible fancies for the squad - if you're fecking mad enough... Carson, Kirkland, Hart, Robinson, James. S Taylor, Mancienne, King, Shawcross, Konchesky, Turner, W Brown, G Neville, P Neville, Cahill, L Young, Shorey, Warnock, Onuoha, Naughton, Wheater, A Gardner, C Davies, Knight, Baines, Dawson, Lescott, A Ferdinand, Campbell. Downing, Delph, Richardson, Etherington, Barton, O'Hara, Nolan, Davis, Pennant, C Gardner, Bullard, Sidwell, Parker, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Jenas, M Johnson, Cattermole, Kightly, Bentley, Adam Johnson, Whitehead. Ebanks-Blake, Zamora, Andy Johnson, Ashton, Windass, Sturridge, Campbell, Nugent, Heskey, Davies, D Bent, C Cole. Retired: Carragher, Scholes.... but if you were hypothetically speaking... If only Rory Delap were English :=( **** me, you've got WAY too much time on your hands!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Causer Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 I reckon Sturridge will sneak in as there are not many English forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jeweller Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 think most of you are forgetting Mr Owens' been overlooked by Capello for a while and probably still will be,just because he's a MU player dosen't mean he won't be injured a year down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Can't Almunia be called up for a cap? Might be a good goalkeeper we could adopt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 **** me, you've got WAY too much time on your hands!!! I just got on a roll ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 6 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Just a kick on now were really into countdown mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 owen..? ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Hargreaves ? ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 That list just highlights two glaring weakness's in the England side. Lack of decent keeper Lack of decent partner for Rooney. If we could resolve those before the summer we might have a chance of winning it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Think it would be interesting to do this again a few months after I did it originally... GK - Steve Harper (how he's not had a cap is beyond me, he is Englands best 'keeper bar none at the moment) GK - David James GK - Rob Green (best of a very bad bunch from Carson, Foster, Kirkland, Robinson etc..) RB - Glen Johnson RB - Wes Brown CB - Rio Ferdinand CB - John Terry CB - Matthew Upson CB - Joleon Lescott LB - Ashley Cole LB - Wayne Bridge MR - Aaron Lennon MR - David Beckham CM - Steven Gerrard CM - Frank Lampard CM - Gareth Barry LM - Joe Cole LM - James Milner ST - Wayne Rooney ST - Jermaine Defoe ST - Peter Crouch ST - Theo Walcott ST - Emile Heskey Standby - Paul Robinson, Phil Jagielka, Michael Carrick, Ashley Young, Michael Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 harpar lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 harpar lol I'm assuming you mean Harper. He is without any shadow of doubt better than Paul Robinson, Carson, Foster, Kirkland and Green. I think he's better than James also. It doesnt matter what level you are playing at, you still need to make saves and communicate with your defenders and he is probably making more saves per match than anyone thats been tried so far. I'd also wager he's kept more clean sheets as well. Lets face it, he's been living in the shadow of one of the best goalkeepers the modern game has ever seen until about a year ago but he is a class act and now he has the number 1 jersey at Newcastle he has proved himself as a top, top draw goalkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 I'm assuming you mean Harper. He is without any shadow of doubt better than Paul Robinson, Carson, Foster, Kirkland and Green. I think he's better than James also. It doesnt matter what level you are playing at, you still need to make saves and communicate with your defenders and he is probably making more saves per match than anyone thats been tried so far. I'd also wager he's kept more clean sheets as well. Lets face it, he's been living in the shadow of one of the best goalkeepers the modern game has ever seen until about a year ago but he is a class act and now he has the number 1 jersey at Newcastle he has proved himself as a top, top draw goalkeeper. actually, i think it may well do.. each to there own....if he was ANY good, he would have made a squad at least recently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Milner will defo go. He's been awesome this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 unless owen shows very good form then he will not go..and rightly so he is poor...and it makes me cringe when the journos get all wet at his every goal at the mo... they fail to miss the fact he cant really get into the man u team and misses shed loads of chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 After that penalty miss earlier today, Defoe must be a shoe-in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 December, 2009 Share Posted 6 December, 2009 Robinson James Foster Brown Johnson Cole Bridge Terry Ferdinand Upson Lampard Gerrard Beckham J Cole Barry Lennon Milner Carrick (Hargreaves instead if fit) Walcott Rooney Heskey Defoe + whichever striker's in top form at the time if no one is, then Crouch. To line up: ---------------Robinson------------- Johnson---Terry---Ferdinand---Cole ----------------Barry---------------- -------Gerrard-------------Lampard-- --Rooney-----------------------Cole ----------------Heskey--------------- With Cole and Rooney moving around a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Milner will defo go. He's been awesome this season. He's been awesome for the past 3 seasons IMO. :-) While we're on the subject on England... can I just underline how much I hate Jermaine Jenas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 unless owen shows very good form then he will not go..and rightly so he is poor...and it makes me cringe when the journos get all wet at his every goal at the mo... they fail to miss the fact he cant really get into the man u team and misses shed loads of chances Have to say, I think I made a bad call on Owen... which leaves one space free for one of my stand by's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 GK - Steve Harper Brilliant call... to be honest, I actually always prefered him over Shay Given! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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