ladysaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 from the team last night to the one playing on Saturday at Huddersfield, its going to be a tough game for us and obviously the 3 points is a must. I suppose Perry will come back in for Olly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry for olly is all i'd change, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurleyBurley Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Rasiak to start alongside Lambert - If he's still here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooooo Mariaaan Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Agreed with HurleyBurley. Rasiak was a different class when he came on last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Rasiak to start alongside Lambert - If he's still here I'd go along with this and Perry for Lancashire. I don't know what it is but I've got a feeling about Rasziak that AP is going to get the best out of him and that he's going to stay, in the short term at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naboo_thats_who Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Racon in for Wotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 We have to ditch Wotton. Everything he touches turns to sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Rasiak and Lambert up front and maybe put a new guy we get in this week (if he is a defender) in for Olly. No offence to Olly but he really needs to go out on loan and learn to be a defender. We need experience at the back, we did our whole "lets let the youngsters play" thing last year, worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Gillet for Wotton if he's fit. Also I thought Dan Harding had another great game last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 We have to ditch Wotton. Everything he touches turns to sh*t. +1 hopefully the new guy coming in before Sat is a midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I was wondering why Gillet hasnt started for the last two games, does AP not rate him. I thought he was one of our best players last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I was wondering why Gillet hasnt started for the last two games, does AP not rate him. I thought he was one of our best players last season. I agree I thought he was excellent towards the end of the season. He seemed like the only player who actually cared and if he wasn't injured we might even be on +1 point in league 1 now. Has he just come back from injury? I thought he had and maybe he's not fully fit. Or like you say Pardew might not rate him or prefers the more experienced Wotton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I'd start me up front, if only to confuse commentators, a Lambert/Lambeth pairing up top could be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I was wondering why Gillet hasnt started for the last two games, does AP not rate him. I thought he was one of our best players last season. To be fair he was pretty bad against Millwall when he came on. Some of his passing was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.tom.clancy Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I was wondering why Gillet hasnt started for the last two games, does AP not rate him. I thought he was one of our best players last season. +1 Gillet was class last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Think he likes wotton's physical presence in there alongside sneiderlin rather than Gilletts energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 To be fair he was pretty bad against Millwall when he came on. Some of his passing was awful. Fair point I forgot about that. I seem to remember he lost the ball a couple of times, he didn't look comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry for Olly and Rasiak for Pato, as already mentioned. Not because Pato deserves to be dropped but Rasiak is the obvious choice if he is still here and fit. I'd be a little cautious about bringing in Gillett for Wotton at this stage as the midfield would look a little weak with him and Schneedle in the middle - although saying that I rate Gillett much higher than Wotton... work that one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I think Gillet is not starting because if his height, AP has said he feels we're lacking in that department. That said I thought Wotton was poor last night and seemed to keep passing the ball behind our players, breaking our momentum. I'd have Perry instead of Olli, as one dodgy central defender is enough for me and I'd continue to start with Patterson as he puts himself about and works defenders. Rasiak can come on later against a hopefully weary defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry in for Lancashire Gillett in for Wotton Rasiak in for Paterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Jake Thompson looked good when he came on last night. Maybe he could come in, mover Lloydy inside and loose Wotton that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Jake Thompson looked good when he came on last night. Maybe he could come in, mover Lloydy inside and loose Wotton that way. We shouldn't go down the route of 'let's try anything just to get rid of Wotton', because he's not that bad. He does a job, occasionally ****s up but most of the time is steady. Thompson is nowhere near ready to start in League 1. He looked too weak and inexperienced against League 2 opposition last night, so we shouldn't be thinking of starting him in the first team. He needs a season long loan move imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 We will not win many away games without any pace in the side, and we have none. Harding is the quickest player in our current starting line up. We are playing too narrow, we have no width for an out ball, MS is constantly looking to play out wide but has no one there. Agree the he is playing PW to support MS, but we need a replacement for PW who does not give the ball away so much. As a team we are giving the ball away far too much, we would be murdered even playing in the Championship with this side. That said with a couple of signings in the right areas we have the basis of a decent team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Would Mills not be in your starting line up then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 We have to ditch Wotton. Everything he touches turns to sh*t. Actually I thought he was very good last night, resisting the temptation to hit rubbish 45 yard passes into the crowd and instead concentrating on winning it and playing 5-10 yarders to people who can actually pass a ball. Shame for Gillett who improved a lot last season, but Wotton is fine for League One and he'll get another chance. Oh, but don't think I've forgotten Wotton's left footed slicer into the stand, he's still pants at football, but only when he has the ball. Perry for Lancashire, I'd leave Rasiak on the bench, Paterson offers us the kind of workrate we need away, Rasiak can come on and score with his first touch every match, that'll suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Jake Thomson looked good when he came on last night. Maybe he could come in, mover Lloydy inside and loose Wotton that way. Did he ? I'm assuming you were in the Kingsland, cos all I saw from the Itchen/Chapel corner was him get one cross into the danger area when unmarked - I'm one of his biggest fans but I can't seriously argue that he's done anything to warrant inclusion in the first team at the moment. He does have pace though, and now at least he's got a cross into the box at St Mary's. Same goes for Gobern for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry for Lancashire Gillett for Wotton Ras for Pato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 We will not win many away games without any pace in the side, and we have none. Harding is the quickest player in our current starting line up. We are playing too narrow, we have no width for an out ball, MS is constantly looking to play out wide but has no one there. Agree the he is playing PW to support MS, but we need a replacement for PW who does not give the ball away so much. As a team we are giving the ball away far too much, we would be murdered even playing in the Championship with this side. That said with a couple of signings in the right areas we have the basis of a decent team. I kinda agree but it goes against your username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Jake Thompson looked good when he came on last night. Maybe he could come in, mover Lloydy inside and loose Wotton that way. no offense but I've yet to see Thomson look decent against anyone. Perhaps the lower league opposition with tired legs flattered hinm somewhat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry for Lancashire, I'd leave Rasiak on the bench, Paterson offers us the kind of workrate we need away, Rasiak can come on and score with his first touch every match, that'll suit him. with a bit of luck we will have made that CB signing 9Raynes perhaps) and he will come straight in. Agree regarding Paterson. He can run his socks off again and when he and defenders start to get tired Rasiak can come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Agreed with HurleyBurley. Rasiak was a different class when he came on last night. Amazing what a bit of competition will do for people :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Amazing what a bit of competition will do for people :-) Or a couple of scouts watching maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 I would give Holmes a chance on the left (for at least one half of the game). I really don't think that Harding and Lallana linked up that well last night, and that was more down to Lallana than it was Harding (he was *seriously* frustrated for the first twenty minutes of the game, at least). Lallana has the same problem as Surman did on the left - keeps wandering inside. Wotton's physicality would be less crucial if the back five were really, really solid. They got there eventually last night, but there were some dodgy moments in the first third of the game when they seemed to expect to be reading each other's minds rather than talking (and listening) to each other. So if Lallana wants to be in the middle, play him in the middle; put Perry back at CB - or if we have another, bigger and scarier, option by Saturday, play him. Rasiak and Lambert up front (that being said, I'm really looking forward to seeing a McLaggon/Lambert partnership). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry for Ollie If Mills is fit I'd stick him in in place of lallana and put lallana upfront with Lambert and drop Pato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Perry for Lancashire Gillett for Wotton Ras for Pato Let me be the third person to back these changes ! I know that we were ok last night but remember it was only a poor Northampton side ! IMHO Lancs and Wotto do not have the quality and Pato is not yet at Razza's standard ! (Nb. this could all change if we get 1 or 2 signings this week as I expect!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 With regards to Simon Gillett, AP has obviously seen him in training & perhaps thinks he's lacking in something other than just height Football is all about opinions & I've read as equally as many SWF posters say they don't rate Gillett, as people thinking he's class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 With regards to Simon Gillett, AP has obviously seen him in training & perhaps thinks he's lacking in something other than just height Football is all about opinions & I've read as equally as many SWF posters say they don't rate Gillett, as people thinking he's class FWIW I think that he is an ok player (not great!) but would be far more effective than Wotton alongside Schneiderlin because he doesn't sit deep all the time, he moves around ! PW and MS together both sit deep and consequently you lose forward momentum ! As MS can spray accurate long passes and Wotton cannot, therefore I would keep MS as the deep player with Gillet as a more advanced playmaker ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naboo_thats_who Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Is Holmes injured? When is he due back - he could be a massive player for us this season if he is fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Perry in for Olly and Gobern in for Wotton. Play Lallana on the right, James in the middle and Gobern on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Was at Millwall but not No'ton. I'd have to say. Gillett for Wotton Rasiak for Pato Perry for Lancashire May be a lack of pace up front, but those two would scare the living crap out of most L1 defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Is Holmes injured? When is he due back - he could be a massive player for us this season if he is fit! He's fit enough to have been on the bench on Tuesday (and possibly last Saturday too, I can't remember). Not sure he's proven himself to the manager yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Was at Millwall but not No'ton. I'd have to say. Gillett for Wotton Rasiak for Pato Perry for Lancashire May be a lack of pace up front, but those two would scare the living crap out of most L1 defences. Lack of pace everywhere. That's the reason i'd like to see Gobern plays, he's quick and not afraid to run at players. Maybe not a great idea for an away game against a decent side though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 lets have Lallana up front just off Lambert, then Perry for Lancashire. i'd have Mcglaggon on the bench if he's fit and just give him a run out for say 20 mins but as has been said we need width, so Holmes playing would need Spiderman to put the ball about to exploit the width, leaves Wotton to play in the middle uless we can find a really mobile CB then maybe put Gillet in for Wotton. to win first we need to scare the opposition, and stop them playing, then Spiderman can start to pass the ball about, into feet for Lallana or out wide to Holmes, but to do that we need a CASE/BALL/CMFG/ or even a Carlton Palmer in midfield to break it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 wotton is the new jermaine wright, the fashionable mug to slag off. I would start with Raza and Perry, and keep gillet for fresh legs. Maybe gillet's carrying an injury, or just needs a bit of time to get his confidence. is pace really that vital in league 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Well in hindsight, I wouldn't have started with the bottled Brit Real Ale at the beer festival today. Perhaps should have gone for the foreign not so strong lagers first, then moved onto the Weiss Bier before the Adnams. Oh, sorry you meant the football, well. I wouldn't have let Gillett get a knock but for the past 30 something years Saints have had aplayer who we moan about...... Until he isn't there So maybe Wotton does a job on the pitch, would have played Gillett but I heard he wasn't 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I thought Wotton had a decent game on Tuesday. He adds experience in midfield, so I understand why AP prefers him to Gillett. Otherwise I've always been a great fan of Gilletts. Perry in for Olly, that's a given, as is Rasiak for Pato. Leave the rest well alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Lack of pace everywhere. That's the reason i'd like to see Gobern plays, he's quick and not afraid to run at players. Maybe not a great idea for an away game against a decent side though. Whether or not Gobern plays, we aren't going to be attacking players with a whole lot of pace. I reckon would should set out our game plan so we don't need to until we can get some quick forwards and wide men in. Lots of neat passing, intelligent movement and strikers who can finish off even the faintest of half chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Perry for Lancashire should be the only change. Gillett and Schneiderlin would be too lighweight and besides, Wotton does a good job as long as he keeps it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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