Asaint4ever Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Should had finished that game in 2nd half! hit wood work twice. Just wanna say back 4 was solid all game and the ref bottled it! didn't think was a peno. Also i thought Melli's is to weak on the ball kept getting pushed off the ball apart from that game was OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 (edited) Any news for the people who blame these late goals on fitness? Is there any evidence of that or something else amiss (like an inability to take chances, crap referee, etc etc - the usual suspects)? Edited 29 August, 2009 by kpturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Should had finished that game in 2nd half! hit wood work twice. Just wanna say back 4 was solid all game and the ref bottled it! didn't think was a peno. Also i thought Melli's is to weak on the ball kept getting pushed off the ball apart from that game was OK! Exactly, people are overeacting. We should have won, created lots of chances and should have taken one or two more. Sounds miles better than the Swindon and Huddersfield games. Seems we are making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 29 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Any news for the people to blame these late goals on fitness? Is there any evidence of that or something else amiss (like an inability to take chances, crap referee, etc etc - the usual suspects)? No not realy! we had the game under control! like i said ref bottled it because the county fans were on his back all game! only person who didnt performe for me was melli's! wayne thomas had a good game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Exactly, people are overeacting. We should have won, created lots of chances and should have taken one or two more. Sounds miles better than the Swindon and Huddersfield games. Seems we are making progress. It looks like things are heading in the right direction to me....patience is needed....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 What about Saga 'will score goals for fun in this league' how was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker268 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Sounded on the radio like the ref gave an easy decision, but i couldn't really hear because of a stockport commentator almost drowning out Radio Solent As I understand it Trottman had his back to the ball arms at his side and it bounced up and hit his elbow, so ball to hand, anyone see if this is what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 29 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2009 It looks like things are heading in the right direction to me....patience is needed....again. Yes spot on! we aint gonna win league this year we aint gonna make play off's we will be mid table and il be happy with that! then next year will be ours give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 29 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2009 What about Saga 'will score goals for fun in this league' how was he? worked hard! Lambert the man for us this year! he won the ball in the air all the time and hit wood work! also worked hard and closed them down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Exactly, people are overeacting. We should have won, created lots of chances and should have taken one or two more. Sounds miles better than the Swindon and Huddersfield games. Seems we are making progress. I still feel sick though. Just barked at the kids for no reason and bit them missus' head off for offering me a cup of tea at the wrong time. Miserable git for 48 hours - that's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 worked hard! Lambert the man for us this year! he won the ball in the air all the time and hit wood work! also worked hard and closed them down It sounds like on another day we could have won 3-1... our luck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 worked hard! Lambert the man for us this year! he won the ball in the air all the time and hit wood work! also worked hard and closed them down Not all doom and gloom then, was Saganowski goal offside ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 29 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Not all doom and gloom then, was Saganowski goal offside ? id like see that tonight! as we all was behind goal couldn't really see! didn't look offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rational Rich Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Sounded on the radio like the ref gave an easy decision, but i couldn't really hear because of a stockport commentator almost drowning out Radio Solent As I understand it Trottman had his back to the ball arms at his side and it bounced up and hit his elbow, so ball to hand, anyone see if this is what happened? Spot on what happened. We were ok, much better than them and much better than at hudders, things going in the right direction, just couldn't kill the game off. It will come. Hammond looks good, lallana and harding had good games, no-one was particularly bad, but we're not creating enough at the moment and need more width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just Back in from the game, Lets start with Melis, he is not up to it was out of position far to much far to easily knocked of the ball & showed little going forward or tracking back. We had chances to finish them off in the 2nd half, not sure that it was offside for the 2nd goal. In the spells that we got the ball on the floor & played football we looked dangerous, the defence looked fairly untroubled thought Trotman was outstanding at the back, that is one thing looking good. Hammond & James looked solid in the middle, but we have no width in the team at all, Lallana showed a few promising & dangerous moments. Also thought Saga held the ball up well & looked good with Lambert. Not sure if it was a penalty for them at the end, but have to say that the Ref was woeful for both teams today. Have to say we needed to keep the ball down today & play football, but resorted to to much hoofing it up for Lambert & Saga. 2 wingers please AP. Disapointing result & we are now further from saftey than when we started. Very worrying that we couldn't see it out against such a poor team as Stockport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 29 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just Back in from the game, Lets start with Melis, he is not up to it was out of position far to much far to easily knocked of the ball & showed little going forward or tracking back. We had chances to finish them off in the 2nd half, not sure that it was offside for the 2nd goal. In the spells that we got the ball on the floor & played football we looked dangerous, the defence looked fairly untroubled thought Trotman was outstanding at the back, that is one thing looking good. Hammond & James looked solid in the middle, but we have no width in the team at all, Lallana showed a few promising & dangerous moments. Also thought Saga held the ball up well & looked good with Lambert. Not sure if it was a penalty for them at the end, but have to say that the Ref was woeful for both teams today. Have to say we needed to keep the ball down today & play football, but resorted to to much hoofing it up for Lambert & Saga. 2 wingers please AP. Disapointing result & we are now further from saftey than when we started. Very worrying that we couldn't see it out against such a poor team as Stockport. spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I still feel sick though. Just barked at the kids for no reason and bit them missus' head off for offering me a cup of tea at the wrong time. Miserable git for 48 hours - that's me. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Sounds like we can take a lot of positives from what those that were at the game are saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I still feel sick though. Just barked at the kids for no reason and bit them missus' head off for offering me a cup of tea at the wrong time. Miserable git for 48 hours - that's me. Know the feeling mate, but hopefully things are about to change as those that went saw a few positives, COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I think we will be ok, it's our first point away from home and we should have won. A win next game and it could start a roll (Shame we have Charlton away after, but with Pardew going back to his old haunt, we could win!) We have to be realistic, this season our priority is staying in this league. If we are in this position after 15 games then we can start to worry, but I think in 15 games we will be out of the relegation zone! Lee Holmes might be back next week, if he stays fit he will make a huge difference to our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Let's make no mistake here, Stockport were truly awful. Their keeper looked really dodgy (almost put it his own net at one point) and the outfield players were not much better. So many miss-kicks and wayward passes. We really should be beating teams like this. For everyone bemoaning our fitness, this was not an issue. Their equaliser was more about the ref making up for having a horrendous game. What saddens me the most is to see just how far we've fallen, their ground and support (in terms of attendance) was ****... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsforlife7 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Agree with what has been said, Mellis the weakest we had. James and Hammond did well as did Lambert, Lallana and Thomas but MOM was Trotman he won absolutely everything in the air! Should have put the game to bed well before the penalty but it's our own fault yet again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthportSaint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just in from game. The guy behind me kept saying the ref would even things up by giving another pen - so it turned out, although we were too far away to see if it was a correct decision. Sometimes you know Saints are going to concede an equaliser but this came out of nothing. The game had drifted away from Stockport but we just dropped too deep for the last couple of minutes and let them hit long balls into the box. Much better performance than the last one I saw (at Huddersfield) albeit against weaker opposition. I thought Lallana looked like he is going to start delivering on his promise at last. Wayne Thomas looked a natural at right back (my MoM) and we now look solid dealing with crosses, even though Kelvin stays on his line. Agree that Mellis is not quite ready - had a few chances to run at his full back but never really looked a threat. Much better shape and energy in midfield although the back four and Kelvin are still too inclined to play long balls over the top of them to Lambert and Saga. I hope fans don't get on Pardew's back. Stockport won 4-2 away last week but we really looked a class above. When we win one I think we could easily win three or four on the trot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just got back from the game, decent game, absolutely devastated we didn't pick up the 3 points. Totally controlled the game and from we could see the referee totally bottled it at the end. The Stockport fans only made noise when they were having a go at the ref...all in all a pretty **** poor atmosphere I have to say. I thought Mellis looked alright, and Lallana looks decent.......but neither of them are wide players. We totally lacked any width and were leaving it up to Harding and Thomas to get forward as much as possible. Lambert looks very decent, but would look 10x the player if he had crosses being whipped into the box, you saw this when he hit the bar. Thomas really should have scored when he hit the bar, but you can't really expect him to, he's a CB !! Thought Hammond looks like a good signing and will grow in our team, hopefully beginning to control the game a lot more, he went missing a bit today I thought. My MOM definitely Trotman, the guy looks absolute class and exactly what we've been missing. Saganowski doesn't really look very interested in my opinion. I think he could have had a few goals today, but he just didnt gamble enough today. He doesn't seem to read the game very well and just didnt seem to link together with the rest of the team. Paterson looked lively when he came on and definitely looked like he wanted to be here. Will stand with what i said at the start of the season...Davis is the best keeper outside the PL. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable day, gutted about not getting the win, but seems a lot more positive than other games, and seem to be heading in the right direction!! UTS G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Every draw seems like a loss at the moment. One win should boost confidences. It's not as if we're playing poorly either, we're just not getting the luck. Staying up should be our goal this season - then when it's mathmatically impossible, we can start to look higher. This was always going to be a consolidation season, but it is quite annoying not to have won yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just got back from the game, decent game, absolutely devastated we didn't pick up the 3 points. Totally controlled the game and from we could see the referee totally bottled it at the end. The Stockport fans only made noise when they were having a go at the ref...all in all a pretty **** poor atmosphere I have to say. I thought Mellis looked alright, and Lallana looks decent.......but neither of them are wide players. We totally lacked any width and were leaving it up to Harding and Thomas to get forward as much as possible. Lambert looks very decent, but would look 10x the player if he had crosses being whipped into the box, you saw this when he hit the bar. Thomas really should have scored when he hit the bar, but you can't really expect him to, he's a CB !! Thought Hammond looks like a good signing and will grow in our team, hopefully beginning to control the game a lot more, he went missing a bit today I thought. My MOM definitely Trotman, the guy looks absolute class and exactly what we've been missing. Saganowski doesn't really look very interested in my opinion. I think he could have had a few goals today, but he just didnt gamble enough today. He doesn't seem to read the game very well and just didnt seem to link together with the rest of the team. Paterson looked lively when he came on and definitely looked like he wanted to be here. Will stand with what i said at the start of the season...Davis is the best keeper outside the PL. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable day, gutted about not getting the win, but seems a lot more positive than other games, and seem to be heading in the right direction!! UTS G Thanks SG...some positives then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just got back from the game, decent game, absolutely devastated we didn't pick up the 3 points. Totally controlled the game and from we could see the referee totally bottled it at the end. The Stockport fans only made noise when they were having a go at the ref...all in all a pretty **** poor atmosphere I have to say. I thought Mellis looked alright, and Lallana looks decent.......but neither of them are wide players. We totally lacked any width and were leaving it up to Harding and Thomas to get forward as much as possible. Lambert looks very decent, but would look 10x the player if he had crosses being whipped into the box, you saw this when he hit the bar. Thomas really should have scored when he hit the bar, but you can't really expect him to, he's a CB !! Thought Hammond looks like a good signing and will grow in our team, hopefully beginning to control the game a lot more, he went missing a bit today I thought. My MOM definitely Trotman, the guy looks absolute class and exactly what we've been missing. Saganowski doesn't really look very interested in my opinion. I think he could have had a few goals today, but he just didnt gamble enough today. He doesn't seem to read the game very well and just didnt seem to link together with the rest of the team. Paterson looked lively when he came on and definitely looked like he wanted to be here. Will stand with what i said at the start of the season...Davis is the best keeper outside the PL. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable day, gutted about not getting the win, but seems a lot more positive than other games, and seem to be heading in the right direction!! UTS G Not long back. I agree with this. mellis looked ok but I'd have moved him into the middle and brought Thomson on later on. I can't really pick anyone out for a bad game it was just one of those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Am i the only one who noticed the ref played 4.5 mins injury time when the board held up by the arseisstant said 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Saints dominated the game and should have won this game easily. Not enough width but thought some good performances from Thomas, Harding, Hammond, Lallana and Lambert. One thing that shocked me a bit was Paterson looking knackered and unfit shortly after coming on as sub???? Stockport were a very poor side and only looked dangerous with their corners which Saints struggled to clear at times. Saints players were a class above Stockport but seem to lack that killer instinct to kill off the game as usual. I think we will be fine if a few new players come in to play out wide and a striker with some pace to play alongside lambert. Was too far away to judge the penalty decisions but you just knew the ref would try to even things up at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 So the general consensus from everyone who has seen us this season is we need width so whats the odds we go and buy another 2 strikers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Since '51 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just back. One of our better performances this season. We didn't look a good footballing team, but we did look stronger (3 CBs + Harding at the back, Hammond in midfield and Lambert helping out at corners and defensive free-kicks). Mind you, Stockport were poor and we still didn't win. I can't agree that we "controlled the game". We did have lots of possession, but hey had as many corners and more shots on target than us for example. Either side could have scored two or three. I don't think we can moan for conceding late; we should have made more of second half possession and tied it up. How many shots on target did we have. 4? Ref had a poor day. Upset both sets of supporters. (Though I've never heard a crowd moan more than theirs). Penalties looked identical. Difficult to be sure from 100 yards away, but both seemed to be attacking headers onto defenders' arms held high. Lots of steady performances. Thomas had the best game I've seen him play this season at right back. Trotman, Hammond, Lambert all strong. Lallana better than usual. I agree Mellis wasn't good. He's out of position there. It's a bit much to expect him to play like a winger. He did have good energy. But I agree, he was knocked out of possession too often. Best you can say about him is that he was 5 times better than Thompson would have been. I'd leave him there; there was something of a pattern emerging in the second half down the right. Worst player, for me, was Saga. Doesn't contest and hold it up; doesn't burst off Lambert's knock-ons; doesn't threaten from crosses; has no pace; had one chance for a 20 yard lob and missed by 5 yards. Has no function whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Funny, because Solent thought Saga had a good game. Mind you, I think Dave Merrington has had his brain replaced with a Banal Truism Machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 There were certainly positives to be taken from the game, but also a bit of an eye opener. I think we've just got to hope that we can get some decent wide players. Mills and Holmes could be like new signings for us. I think Lallana could be huge for us this season, but he needs to be given a position and stick to it and work to it. If this is left midfield then he needs to play as a left midfielder, or be good enough to make the difference to come inside and be influential enough to make a difference i.e. Modric for Spurs (although obviously not as good as him) The massive positive from what I saw today was the fact we were so much stronger. I haven't seen us play yet this season apart from Millwall on Sky...but I honestly think we are a better team now than we were last season. One thing i didn't mention in my other post was about how deep we were playing after we scored, we started playing ridiculously deep and just invited them onto us, and being a Saints fan...we just knew it was going to happen once we failed to score a second. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I still feel sick though. Just barked at the kids for no reason and bit them missus' head off for offering me a cup of tea at the wrong time. Miserable git for 48 hours - that's me. How many times have we seen Saints do this - concede within the last 10 minutes or so. And yet we still all feel like the above. You'd have thought we'd have gotten used to it now, but it still always has the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Am i the only one who noticed the ref played 4.5 mins injury time when the board held up by the arseisstant said 3? I am quite religious in checking the time at the football and, to be fair, the penalty was given withing the last few seconds of the third minute. Ref was absolutely ****, I have no idea whether either penatly decision was correct because it was the other end of the stadium but most of the stuff at our end he got wrong. Not in favour of Stockport at all, just consistently wrong. Every decision that went against Stockport, regardless of how blantent it was, and the Stockport fans were up in arms about it. With about twenty minutes to go they started giving him some real stick and it was fairly inevitable that he was going to start giving thing their way. I was talking to a Stockport fan after the game who was sat at the other end of the stadium and he said neither penalty decision was correct, and there were a few other decisions the officals got wrong. I am bored of League One already. I thought the whole team played fine, maybe lacked the desire to finish them off and were too content to sit back and collect the points. Trotman looked gutted at the end. I slated Wayne Thomas after the Huddersfield game were he had a schocker, but I thought he was immense today. Really liked having such a physical presence in a full back position. If Murty is out for a while, on the basis of this afternoon, I'd be happy to see Thomas play there (although another centre half becomes more of a priority) Worked out the other day, I have been to fourteen Saints games this year and seen one win. With this afternoon it makes one in fifteen, starting to think I should, for the greater good, stop going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Will stand with what i said at the start of the season...Davis is the best keeper outside the PL. For shot stopping maybe but as a keeper that commands his box he leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Other teams play on this by pressuring him and the penalty had as much to do with Davis being rooted to his line and not claiming the ball earlier . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Worst player' date=' for me, was Saga. Doesn't contest and hold it up; doesn't burst off Lambert's knock-ons; doesn't threaten from crosses; has no pace; had one chance for a 20 yard lob and missed by 5 yards. Has no function whatsoever.[/quote'] Slightly harsh but there's certainly a hat full of goals there for a forward savvy enough to read Lambert's knock-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Mind you, I think Dave Merrington has had his brain replaced with a Banal Truism Machine. If he says "We've got to keep a clean sheet" again I'm going to rip my own testicles off. It'd be his but I can't reach from here. How about "We need a second goal", Dave? Your idea doesn't seem to be working out too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fen Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Just got back from the game, decent game, absolutely devastated we didn't pick up the 3 points. Totally controlled the game and from we could see the referee totally bottled it at the end. The Stockport fans only made noise when they were having a go at the ref...all in all a pretty **** poor atmosphere I have to say. I thought Mellis looked alright, and Lallana looks decent.......but neither of them are wide players. We totally lacked any width and were leaving it up to Harding and Thomas to get forward as much as possible. Lambert looks very decent, but would look 10x the player if he had crosses being whipped into the box, you saw this when he hit the bar. Thomas really should have scored when he hit the bar, but you can't really expect him to, he's a CB !! Thought Hammond looks like a good signing and will grow in our team, hopefully beginning to control the game a lot more, he went missing a bit today I thought. My MOM definitely Trotman, the guy looks absolute class and exactly what we've been missing. Saganowski doesn't really look very interested in my opinion. I think he could have had a few goals today, but he just didnt gamble enough today. He doesn't seem to read the game very well and just didnt seem to link together with the rest of the team. Paterson looked lively when he came on and definitely looked like he wanted to be here. Will stand with what i said at the start of the season...Davis is the best keeper outside the PL. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable day, gutted about not getting the win, but seems a lot more positive than other games, and seem to be heading in the right direction!! UTS G I agree with this. Thought we looked good today although still lacked width. Lallana had a good game today but his corners were shocking in the first half. We defended really well but just fell deeper and deeper in the closing moments allowing them to get too many crosses in. Didn't think it was a penalty and the ref was generally shocking all game, worse ref seen in a long long time (Thats saying something!!). We need a forward and winger with pace because this is what we lack to open teams up. Saga did alright, not sure if he was offside for the goal that was disallowed. Patterson got stuck in and looked lively when he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I am disappointed I thought we made Stockport look good. Good support in numbers from fans about 1,000 I would say but atmosphere flat. Played a lot better than we did at Huddersfield and Swindon but IMO we are still not good enough and definitely need width. As someone else said I am bored with L1 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I am disappointed I thought we made Stockport look good. Good support in numbers from fans about 1,000 I would say but atmosphere flat. Played a lot better than we did at Huddersfield and Swindon but IMO we are still not good enough and definitely need width. As someone else said I am bored with L1 already. 1000 saints fans eh, and yet others are saying that the ref was intimidated by what 3200 or so Stockport fans, must be real baskerville hounds then, and to think that some refs aren't intimidated by 90000 Barca fans insulting them, their mums and about every other close relative.I think a veil of illusion is being drawn over our absolute ineptitude by some happy clappy fans who just can't see that Liebherr hasn't got the job done any more than some unknown punter with a couple of million obtain from a start up enterprise.The bloke at peterborough put up about 8 mill last year, but they got promoted, our guy is supposed to be worth about 2.5 billion yet we've got 3 points from 5 games,even though he's had nigh on 4 million in ST sales and sold players for another 2.9 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 1000 saints fans eh, and yet others are saying that the ref was intimidated by what 3200 or so Stockport fans, must be real baskerville hounds then, and to think that some refs aren't intimidated by 90000 Barca fans insulting them, their mums and about every other close relative.I think a veil of illusion is being drawn over our absolute ineptitude by some happy clappy fans who just can't see that Liebherr hasn't got the job done any more than some unknown punter with a couple of million obtain from a start up enterprise.The bloke at peterborough put up about 8 mill last year, but they got promoted, our guy is supposed to be worth about 2.5 billion yet we've got 3 points from 5 games,even though he's had nigh on 4 million in ST sales and sold players for another 2.9 million. Seriously, LOL at you. I'm so glad I work with intelligent people and don't have to spend my days listening to this sort of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 1000 saints fans eh, and yet others are saying that the ref was intimidated by what 3200 or so Stockport fans, must be real baskerville hounds then, and to think that some refs aren't intimidated by 90000 Barca fans insulting them, their mums and about every other close relative.I think a veil of illusion is being drawn over our absolute ineptitude by some happy clappy fans who just can't see that Liebherr hasn't got the job done any more than some unknown punter with a couple of million obtain from a start up enterprise.The bloke at peterborough put up about 8 mill last year, but they got promoted, our guy is supposed to be worth about 2.5 billion yet we've got 3 points from 5 games,even though he's had nigh on 4 million in ST sales and sold players for another 2.9 million. Oh for pities sake. You can't answer the major problems we have with a cheque book. There is a fundamental cultural issue in the players that have been part of the team from the Lowe/Wilde days. It will take TIME. We have players capable of competing but it will take time, we are essentially rebuilding overnight and are competting against technically limited yet spirited and organised opposition. We WILL get there, we will get back to the champiosnhip and then eventually the premiership. But it will take time, and that is something a lot of us fans will not allow. We have had a lot of sh*t over the last 5 years and no wonder a lot of us just want it gone and have a chip on their shoulders as a result. Miracles do not happen overnight and it would have been a miracle to be immediately competitive. Have some faith guys. (But if you have to point the finger at someone don't blame Liebherr, blame those in charge of day to day affairs. Not that I at all condone that at this early stage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Lol - tell you what, ask Markus to take his £20m he's spent so far and clear off, then we can run the club on the hot air and bullsh!t generated by fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 1000 saints fans eh, and yet others are saying that the ref was intimidated by what 3200 or so Stockport fans, must be real baskerville hounds then, and to think that some refs aren't intimidated by 90000 Barca fans insulting them, their mums and about every other close relative.I think a veil of illusion is being drawn over our absolute ineptitude by some happy clappy fans who just can't see that Liebherr hasn't got the job done any more than some unknown punter with a couple of million obtain from a start up enterprise.The bloke at peterborough put up about 8 mill last year, but they got promoted, our guy is supposed to be worth about 2.5 billion yet we've got 3 points from 5 games,even though he's had nigh on 4 million in ST sales and sold players for another 2.9 million. You don't have a ****ing clue do you? No offense, but seriously, are you being for real? 2.9 million on players? WRONG - since we have been owned by ML we have got in 300K for players (Rasiak) If you think we have the money from the sales of Surman/Mcgoldrick etc then you are utterly clueless - that went towards the administrators and paying the wages. Heck - even some of the fee from the Dyer transfer was held by the FL so we paid Notts county some installments we had due. I'm not sure what some fans want...? There is alot of frustration surrounding today's result and our start - and i can understand why, i expected a little bit better if im honest. But to see this ridiculous moaning and complaining of our new owners and manager, when they haven't been here 2 months is nothing short of ridiculous. When you fully understand the situation and have facts to back up your idiotic statements then you can post, but in the meantime - shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 I still feel sick though. Just barked at the kids for no reason and bit them missus' head off for offering me a cup of tea at the wrong time. Miserable git for 48 hours - that's me. ...... 48 years more like!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonibell Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 What about Saga 'will score goals for fun in this league' how was he? Just back from the game and he scored but it was said to be off side. We should have easily scored four or five. There goal would have only been a consolation PEN. COYR played well but did not have luck off the green. Hit the cross bar twice as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonibell Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 just in from game. The guy behind me kept saying the ref would even things up by giving another pen - so it turned out, although we were too far away to see if it was a correct decision. Sometimes you know saints are going to concede an equaliser but this came out of nothing. The game had drifted away from stockport but we just dropped too deep for the last couple of minutes and let them hit long balls into the box. Much better performance than the last one i saw (at huddersfield) albeit against weaker opposition. I thought lallana looked like he is going to start delivering on his promise at last. Wayne thomas looked a natural at right back (my mom) and we now look solid dealing with crosses, even though kelvin stays on his line. Agree that mellis is not quite ready - had a few chances to run at his full back but never really looked a threat. Much better shape and energy in midfield although the back four and kelvin are still too inclined to play long balls over the top of them to lambert and saga. I hope fans don't get on pardew's back. Stockport won 4-2 away last week but we really looked a class above. When we win one i think we could easily win three or four on the trot. spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 Lol - tell you what, ask Markus to take his £20m he's spent so far and clear off, then we can run the club on the hot air and bullsh!t generated by fans... I'll second that. Some people need to realise that we are not a premiership team any more, we are where we are not through the result of one game but because the accumulation of results over the whole of last season; the teams we are playing are in the same league as us as a result of their performances over last season too. We are also in the 5h1t through the Mickey Mouse changing of managers everytime the wind changes, people should grow up and let Pardew get things sorted out without the Christmas eve in the Turkey shed mentality bubbling in the background. When things eventually click with the team, a thread should be started with the title "I will have custard with my slice of humble pie". Sorry for going off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 29 August, 2009 Share Posted 29 August, 2009 We weren't bad today. It was much better. What's got us all a bit down again is the fact that we conceded in the last minute of a game which should have been over 30 mins earlier. They had done their homework and peppered us with crosses at every opportunity throughout the game and it paid off at the death. Sad but it's not the end of the world. We're putting together a half decent team. A couple of additions and a couple of wins and we'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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