krissyboy31 Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 According to Solent Twitter feed. "Hammond rated 50/50, Connolly also a doubt (thigh)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 According to Solent Twitter feed. "Hammond rated 50/50, Connolly also a doubt (thigh)." Hammond out would be a major loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 More mind games IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Connolly to come on for last 20 mins...our super sub !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 (edited) edit Edited 29 October, 2009 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Mellis in for Hammond if needs be then I'd have thought. Davis James - Jaidi - Trotman - Harding Mellis - Wotton - Morgan Lallana - Papa Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 They said the same about Lallana this time last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Whats wrong with Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintds Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Is Thomas fit? If so then he can come in at RB and Lloydy can move into the middle. He's more of a ball winner than Mellis and that's exactly what we'll be missing if Hammo is unfit. Shame for Mellis that we've gone on this winning run while he was away. I was starting to see signs that he could do well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I thought Hammond was going to come off when Wotton did on Saturday, he was clearly struggling to get around the pitch at the time, but then he popped up and scored just after! He walked off very gingerly at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Dean Hammond was not moving freely around the pitch,even before his goal last saturday. So presumably, whatever niggle he had has not fully cleared up. He will definately be missed if unavailable at Orient. It is very important we keep our run going, and we have to match the endeavour of sides like Orient and then hopefully let our football take over. Therefore if Hammond does need replacing it is very important that AP replaces him with the right player.[ If Mellis is selected , could he be too lightweight for the job] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I'd completely forgotten Mellis existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Mellis should slot in nicely then good squad at the mo I fully expect a win on sat. They are bot that far ahead of us and we are better. A draw would be ok but I expect us to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 29 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Mellis was excellent in the Gillingham game and because the team has been winning, while he was away on England U19 duty (where by all accounts he also played very well and score in all 3 games), he's been left out of the last 2. If Hammond doesn't make it, then I'd have no hesitation of putting Mellis in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Mellis should slot in nicely then good squad at the mo I fully expect a win on sat. They are bot that far ahead of us and we are better. A draw would be ok but I expect us to win. Alot of the Leyton Orient fans seem to think the score will be either 5-0, 6-0 or 7-0 to us must say, it's making me a bit nervous...you know what saints are like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 29 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Alot of the Leyton Orient fans seem to think the score will be either 5-0, 6-0 or 7-0 to us must say, it's making me a bit nervous...you know what saints are like. Sounds like this forum, earlier in the season. Weren't Charlton supposed to beat us by 5 or 6? Reverse psychology I would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Dean probably isn't injured at all ... just throwing a moody after reading The Echo headline and finding out he had critics ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 According to Solent Twitter feed. "Hammond rated 50/50, Connolly also a doubt (thigh)." Seem to remember that the report from the training ground (meet the sponsors thing) said that neither Hammond nor Lallana were training that day, yet they both still played against MK Dons, so not too worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 The good thing is that we have loads of options. Whether it's Thomas coming in and LJ moving to midfield, whether it's Mellis coming in, whether it's Perry coming in in Wotton's role and Wotton moving forwards, whether it's switching to a 4-4-2..... whatever, although Hammond is a big player for us we should still be confident of beating Orient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 How about a midfield of: Waigo --- Wotton --- MS---- Antonio with Lallana playing up off Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManorHouseSaint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Funny how people are still putting Wotton in their teams. Surely Spiderman should be ahead of him? By at least 4 country miles... It is no coincidence, I believe, that when Pardew took off Wotton and Waigo and put on Connelly and Antonio it completely changed the game - ending with us winning quite comfortably. I know that I sound like a broken record, but I have stated this numerous times before. Wotton is an awful footballer. To me, that is fact (obviously my opinion too). He was anonymous again last Saturday, hence Pardew taking him off (I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't Morgan substituted as per usual). When will people learn that shouting a bit and pointing isn't really enough in the modern game? Not even in League 1. Hammond will be missed if he doesn't play, as he has been a great ball winner in the games I have seen him this season. Someone who actually gets stuck in without giving too many freekicks away, and wins the ball fairly and cleanly. Mellis will be good offensively, but defensively he seems to be lacking the bottle to challenge (most of the time). Fingers crossed for Dean's recovery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManorHouseSaint Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 I'm not wottons biggest fan but he has been shielding the back 4 and breaking up play very effectively, and did so against MK Dons, more so in the first half. Going back to your first point, MS has been picked as well as Wotton. True, the last few games they have been picked together obviously. I'm talking specifically about a situation of either/or. Where I really don't see where there is a choice to make. I have to disagree with you about him shielding the back 4 against MK Dons. I thought that Dean and Morgan had to cover double the amount of ground due to his ineffectiveness. He did a couple of his now classic over the shoulder hoofs to anywhere. Yes, sometimes that is needed in desperate defensive circumstances, but doing it nearly everytime, particualrly when you are near the half way line is just criminal. He wastes possession with being inept and a poor passer of the ball. How someone like Oscar Gobern isn't even picked ahead of him is beyond me (instead letting him go on loan to a League 1 rival). I don't like having a go at Wotton, because he seems like a genuine, decent pro. But I think that he is detrimental to the team (Yes, I know that we have won the last 3-4 games with him in the team). When we come up against a decent team (MK Dons certainly weren't that)Leeds etc we will get found out, as it is almost like playing with 10 men at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Shame for Mellis that we've gone on this winning run while he was away. I was starting to see signs that he could do well for us. Agreed. His workrate and movement off the ball in the Rovers game was outstanding for me and really helped us stretch them. When he came off the pace of our closing down dropped badly and may have helped Rovers get the sapce they needed to get back into the game. If he comes back in I hope he can start where he left off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 True, the last few games they have been picked together obviously. I'm talking specifically about a situation of either/or. Where I really don't see where there is a choice to make. I have to disagree with you about him shielding the back 4 against MK Dons. I thought that Dean and Morgan had to cover double the amount of ground due to his ineffectiveness. He did a couple of his now classic over the shoulder hoofs to anywhere. Yes, sometimes that is needed in desperate defensive circumstances, but doing it nearly everytime, particualrly when you are near the half way line is just criminal. He wastes possession with being inept and a poor passer of the ball. How someone like Oscar Gobern isn't even picked ahead of him is beyond me (instead letting him go on loan to a League 1 rival). I don't like having a go at Wotton, because he seems like a genuine, decent pro. But I think that he is detrimental to the team (Yes, I know that we have won the last 3-4 games with him in the team). When we come up against a decent team (MK Dons certainly weren't that)Leeds etc we will get found out, as it is almost like playing with 10 men at times. you make some very valid points. We certainly haven't won games just because he is in the side, but (and I have touched on this before) because he sits all day long at least Morgan and Hammond know their responsibilities and have that little bit of freedom to play their natural games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 Alot of the Leyton Orient fans seem to think the score will be either 5-0, 6-0 or 7-0 to us must say, it's making me a bit nervous...you know what saints are like. Our worst enemy have not been the opposition, but a cavalier way of underestimating them and a belief that we only have to turn up. We did it last against Swindon. I'm still nervous about it, but AP has instilled a different spirit in the team since then. If we prepare right so that we perform on the day we will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 you make some very valid points. We certainly haven't won games just because he is in the side, but (and I have touched on this before) because he sits all day long at least Morgan and Hammond know their responsibilities and have that little bit of freedom to play their natural games. Wotton sits all day long, and it is that very fact that allows Hammond and Morgan to move up the pitch and press in the opposition half. That doesn't mean that Wotton is a world beater, only that he is doing what he is told and better than many of us had hoped for. He can't be easily replaced by anybody in the current squad, and certainly not Gobern, because we haven't got anybody else with that simple quality. The only possible candidate could be James, but could he stop himself from trying to be clever in front of our own back four? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 If Hammond is injured I think we will move Lallana into the middle with MS sitting a little deeper. Mills, Holmes or even Antonio could play on the left. The beauty of this 451 (or whatever it is!) is that it is so much easier to slot players in and out of the team, and to give players slightly different roles, than a typical 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 29 October, 2009 Share Posted 29 October, 2009 This is a very positive thread. We seem to have a wealth of options this year. It is interesting to read the wide variety of choices posters have suggested. I look forward to reading A.P's selection. I wonder if he does his thinking on this site? Is somebody posting above A.P. ? Only joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Hammond is fit and will be playing apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Hammond is fit and will be playing apparently source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Horses mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Horses mouth My mum would not have told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 My mum would not have told you that. You wouldn't believe the things she says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Hammond is fit and will be playing apparently On another fred somebody said you could get 3300/1 on the same players scoring in the same order again ....... everybody down the bookies now Imagine if Hammond and Ricky put us 2-0 up and there were 5 mins left, players started falling over injured so that Connonlly can come on as a sub, Lallana skipping around 6 tackles goes round the keeper gets to the goal line and beckons over Connolly to toe poke it over the line and 3300 Saints fans go even more mental than ever .... do you think the Football league would smell a rat Lol even the Orient players could be in on it ... hopefully it would be more successful than MLT's effort :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 When Murty is back, could James take Wotton's place as the holding midfielder? It's his preferred position and he deserves a chance to show what he can do there. If we're playing that formation, he, MS and DH make for a solid central midfield. I would hope that would be a useful option. Wotton can do the role he is given well and it works against the limited opposition as we have many attacking threats which stretches them. I wouln't be confident when the opposing team has the attacking threat to stretch us as Wotton will not be able to cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red And White Barmy Army Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 random question - is it really a good idea to appoint a referee from the isle of wight? i seem to remember blackburn or some1 having a few issues with a lancashire ref last year. he was supposedly over-compensating for trying not to look biased towards his local team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 random question - is it really a good idea to appoint a referee from the isle of wight? Sssshhhhhhhh........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Horses mouth Why the long face then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 Why the long face then? I'm Jacob Mellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 I'm Jacob Mellis I'm Jacob Mellis's wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 30 October, 2009 Share Posted 30 October, 2009 They said the same about Lallana this time last week But Lallana didnt have the best of games against MK Donalds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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