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Waigo should start subject..

 

Waigo is an Impact player, if he started every game he would get sussed straight away by the opposition, and wouldn’t cause as much trouble to the opposition as the defenders would have fresh legs..

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we needed him today because without Lallana we really lacked a creative edge. I know Waigo isn't exactly that but he does run at people and cause them problems. Thought it was a very business like performance today, Stockport were dire and we barely got out of second gear. Lambert definitely needs a rest though since he's starting to tire. Good thing about that though is the Barnard seems to do a hell of a lot of running which takes the pressure off.

 

On a complete aside i thought Holmes looked good today and is looking better each game i see him at the moment, when he's had a decent run he's going to pivotal in our side.

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I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach.

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I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach.

 

Yeah. Lets start Waigo centre mid. That'll be positive!

 

You mug.

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I have a feeling Papa's lack of English isn't helping him and this is a large reason(but not only) why he isn't playing more games. Morgan having to translate everything for him in the BBC Solent interview after the game today. He has the ability clearly so there must be something keeping him out and not being able to communicate easily with coaching staff and teammates could be a contributing factor.

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I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach.

 

completely agree-everything quickened up after he came on and while the ball didn't stick all the time, he played the ball to feet, often first time. Great flick around the corner to set holmes free which should have led to a 3rd goal. Has to start down the middle, at least in a 4-4-2 rather than RM and seems to have a decent understanding with lambert. Definitely better than lambert's understanding with Connolly and so far with Barnard, though it's still early days.

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Yeah. Lets start Waigo centre mid. That'll be positive!

 

You mug.

 

Did I say that? Waigo should start and Wotton is hopeless. Gillett was available as was Gobern. To make a peurile remark like that demonstrates a total lack of understanding.

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I don't get this shouldn't start crap. It's the likes of Wotton that shouldn't start not Waigo. Waigo is talented, has a good touch, great pace and movement, plays head up and moves the ball quickly to feet, if Pardew wasn't such a negative **** he would start. We won't make the playoffs with this negative approach.

 

not sure if the two are connect

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not sure if the two are connect

 

They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only.

 

I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players.

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I have a feeling Papa's lack of English isn't helping him and this is a large reason(but not only) why he isn't playing more games. Morgan having to translate everything for him in the BBC Solent interview after the game today. He has the ability clearly so there must be something keeping him out and not being able to communicate easily with coaching staff and teammates could be a contributing factor.

 

Agree with this as well- pards strikes me as a bit of a control-freak who prepares for everything in minute detail. As a result, prefers players he can drill instructions to. Contrast this with the more laissez-faire approach of a manager like redknapp who likes players to express themselves. Not saying one approach is better than the other but it clearly affects team selection.

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They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only.

 

I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players.

 

IMO They will put up with it as long as we win

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Papa's all round awareness looked much improved today. To me, one of the main pluses of playing him up front is that he can get into the box when Antonio and Holmes whip the ball in from the wings. Playing with wingers is much better if they don't have to wait for the strikers to arrive - that's what opened the game up in the second half today.

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We looked horribly one paced with lambo & Barnard. Waigo came on & changed the game straight away, ran at people & scared them ****less.

Cannot work out why pards doesn't seem to fancy him. Great goals ratio and can do equally good job wide or as cf.

Still prefer 4-5-1 though.

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Cannot for the life of me Antonio starts ahead of him, the only thing i can think of is his english.

 

Don't get me wrong, Antonio seems to be improving but Waigo has pace as well as some skill and a definate goal threat.

 

When waigo is good he is very good, he does go missing at times though, but i still would start him ahead of Antonio

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They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only.

 

I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players.

 

I can't see a Chairman putting up with too many wins.

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They aren't, except as a criticism of the selection policy. The negative plodder is picked ahead of Gillett, the quick, incisive, attacking player is continually left out. Today is the first for a while that he even got half an hour usually it's injury time only.

 

I think Pardew is demonstrating a negativity that will see him out of a job if he doesn't start doing better than this. I can't see Cortese putting up with these sort of performances indefinitely especially after the money he's spent on players.

 

You were doing OK until you suggested Gillett was quick, incisive and attacking. I'd describe him as ineffective, prone to fouling and prone to giving the ball away but that's opinion for you. FWIW today was the first time Waigo convinced me he's got what it takes - he showed class, skill and pace. I'd start him. Antonio has been given a few starts now and personally I think Waigo deserves the same chance that he's got. Before today I thought Waigo was probably best on the bench but he's obviously been working hard and has earned a starting place - that could be right mid or up front but either way the lad has done enough to show us what he can do with a few starts.

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I thought Wotton was one of our best players.

 

All of Wotton's determination(which is good to see of course) doesn't take away that nearly every touch of the ball he has is poor, negative and quite often an aimless hoof that losses possession and breaks up Saints attacks.

 

When Hammond replaces Wotton it will make a huge difference!

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Deserves his own thread – in my eyes a great addition that is not flawless but is 100% committed when he plays. I hope he becomes a permanent signing!

 

His name across my shirt!

 

Steve Coppell would have signed him on a permanent by now

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All of Wotton's determination(which is good to see of course) doesn't take away that nearly every touch of the ball he has is poor, negative and quite often an aimless hoof that losses possession and breaks up Saints attacks.

 

When Hammond replaces Wotton it will make a huge difference!

 

Agreed :rolleyes:

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Papa's all round awareness looked much improved today. To me, one of the main pluses of playing him up front is that he can get into the box when Antonio and Holmes whip the ball in from the wings. Playing with wingers is much better if they don't have to wait for the strikers to arrive - that's what opened the game up in the second half today.

 

Absobloodylutely

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Did you go today? I thought Wotton was one of our best players.

 

please tell me this is a joke! He looked confused with the ball at his feet and completely off the pace. Gillett would have been a far more suitable choice - he certainly couldn't have given the ball away more than wotton did

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All of Wotton's determination(which is good to see of course) doesn't take away that nearly every touch of the ball he has is poor, negative and quite often an aimless hoof that losses possession and breaks up Saints attacks.

 

When Hammond replaces Wotton it will make a huge difference!

 

Spot on, yes he trys harder than any other player probably, but the quality is lacking

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Waigo should definitely start against Exeter imo, but what we have to remember is that he is quite inconsistent. Sometimes he'll change a game and sometimes he'll be a passenger. Handle with caution imo, because Antonio seems to be in a bit of a purple patch as well, and with Puncheon, Holmes and Lallana in the squad now we do have a lot of options for wing positions.

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Waigo showed today what he can do playing up front. Barnard produced another question mark and looked decidedly lightweight. Strange for somebody with 17 goals behind him.

 

If we carry on this 4-4-2 than we ought to look for two out of the three Lambert, Waigo and Barnard, assuming that we will get little out of Connolly. That way we can play Antonio without necessarily benching what is a player of genuine class. 8 goals from his so far limited appearances is a bit of a sensation.

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Waigo showed today what he can do playing up front. Barnard produced another question mark and looked decidedly lightweight. Strange for somebody with 17 goals behind him.

 

If we carry on this 4-4-2 than we ought to look for two out of the three Lambert, Waigo and Barnard, assuming that we will get little out of Connolly. That way we can play Antonio without necessarily benching what is a player of genuine class. 8 goals from his so far limited appearances is a bit of a sensation.

 

Barnard takes penalties (or took them for Southend) his open play goal count is probably something like Lallana's or Papa's (from far fewer games).

A player should never be judged on his goal count if he takes penalties.

Anyway at Southend he was probably the head honcho of the strike force (:smt036) and the game was played to suit his qualities, here it's probably different. some say he is far too similar to Lambert in style..

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