John B Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 So do I http://www.tribalfootball.com/pardew-expects-southampton-board-keep-their-word-642841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Hes bringing it all together you can see it happening - let him have the time NC dont end up doing a wooopert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Exacta-fookin-mundo. If he is sacked this summer it will be disgusting, and the first step towards "doing a QPR". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 18 months is fine, by xmas i expect us to be in the thick of the automatic promotion race. If we're outside the top 6 then that's when questions will be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 18 months is fine, by xmas i expect us to be in the thick of the automatic promotion race. If we're outside the top 6 then that's when questions will be asked. +1. Need to be in the top 6 at the very minimum this time in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Yes I agree - he deserves till next xmas. If we arent top of L1 (or within a few points) then maybe he needs to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Yep. Good manager. If NC and ML want to sack him, they'd better not bugger about with someone of similar quality. They'd have to go and offer huge amounts to someone with a proven track record of total success, and back him to the hilt. That isn't going to happen, and those people simply do not bother with lower league football anyway. Pardew is a good manager. Stick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 18 months is about what most of the fans on here were saying when he was appointed. If Xmas is approaching and we're not right in the promotion race, I'll be annoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Obviously feeling the pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2010 18 months is about what most of the fans on here were saying when he was appointed. If Xmas is approaching and we're not right in the promotion race, I'll be annoyed. I agree but with no Norwich and Leeds hopefully it should be easier than this Season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Doing a cracking job, as has been stated on here in more detail many times. Massive progress in a very short timescale, and we can all see there is much more to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Surely must be given 18 months. Apart from Leeds and Norwich Charlton could be promoted and the three relegated from Championship much weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Cracking Manager doing a cracking job and being SUPPORTED AS you would expect.. Onwards and upwards... COYRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Surely must be given 18 months. Apart from Leeds and Norwich Charlton could be promoted and the three relegated from Championship much weaker. Leeds and Norwich will be gone, but we will be joined by three from the CCC. 3 from the bloew (imo) Derby County Queens Park Rangers Sheffield Wednesday Crystal Palace Ipswich Town S****horpe United Reading Plymouth Argyle Peterborough United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 IMO promotion the play off route was always going to be a tall order what with the start we had, no real pre-season and a -10 start. This season and the summer break has got to be looked at as getting the foundations in place for the big automatic promotion push next season. There will be a good few moved on in the summer and a few brought in, if we are not in or around the top 4 by christmas 2010 then questions will be asked with the amount of investment we have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Leeds and Norwich will be gone, but we will be joined by three from the CCC. 3 from the bloew (imo) Derby County Queens Park Rangers Sheffield Wednesday Crystal Palace Ipswich Town S****horpe United Reading Plymouth Argyle Peterborough United Think Plymouth & Peterborough are as good as down, will be either Reading or S****horpe to join them imo. Teams not as strong or big as Leeds/Norwich either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Think Plymouth & Peterborough are as good as down, will be either Reading or S****horpe to join them imo. Teams not as strong or big as Leeds/Norwich either way. Another Trip to Wembley in the JPT then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Mr Pardew would do well to let his Manager skills on the pitch do his talking for him. To make a comment like he has to the media suggests he is a worried man but we do not know in what context the comment was made. For instance Q If you do not get promoted to the CCC at the end of the season do you expect to be sacked A "When I came here, he said I would be judged after 18 months and I expect to be judged after 18 months," said Pardew. "In the future I think we'll produce some really strong results. 'I'm very confident the guys I've brought in here will do a great job. We need to learn from days like this and next year we can become a real force like Leeds have become." Unless we know the question it is difficult to interpret the reason for the comment That said Cortese is clearly not a patient man. Pardew and the team are going to have to show a big improvement in the rest of our fixtures to give owner, Chairman and fans alike the evidence that we will be a force to much for our Div 1 opponents next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 18 months is fine, by xmas i expect us to be in the thick of the automatic promotion race. If we're outside the top 6 then that's when questions will be asked. Xmas has been touted by many as being the sensible time to review the situation. Of course, it has to be asked from NCs side - is AP delivering what he promised ? Did he ever tell NC he wasnt that fussed about the League this season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Richard of Woolston Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Everybody can see the improvement since AP arrived. Please God I hope he is given next season too. If we change come May then we will probably end up with what we deserve - turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 It would be complete and utter madness not to give AP 18 months. He has built a team that are really showing the signs of coming together and being a force to be reckoned with. Playoffs are still an outside chance and to be honest i would have taken that if someone had offered it at the start of the season. This has been an exciting season so far and AP deserves the full support of the board and the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Nothing to disagree with there, He does deserve to get the full 18 months. From where we started from the day AP come in we've obviously moved forward. If were not looking like challenging for automatic promotion by this time next year, then is the time to judge the clubs & AP's progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Great to see that common sense has broken out today on this board. Even Glasgow Saint is now giving him until Christmas ! We are all having one big love in after the weekend's showing against the blue few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 I'd be suprised if AP is not given until xmas. I think that NC is keen to build up a reputation as a no nonsence man (Daily Echo etc.) and I think the dig at the recent league form was part of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2010 I'd be suprised if AP is not given until xmas. I think that NC is keen to build up a reputation as a no nonsence man (Daily Echo etc.) and I think the dig at the recent league form was part of this. What NC was saying was common sense our League form has not been good and it needs to improve - whats wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Xmas is fair...but for the remainder of the season..he and the team will have to show automatic promotion winning form for a long stretch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 18 months is fine, by xmas i expect us to be in the thick of the automatic promotion race. If we're outside the top 6 then that's when questions will be asked. agreed, unless of course we lose Lallana, Schneiderlin and Lambert in the summer. That would hit us hard and he would have to rebuild. Mind you the money would be there if those players went so even that wouldn't be an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 What NC was saying was common sense our League form has not been good and it needs to improve - whats wrong with that. Nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludgershallsaint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Xmas is fair...but for the remainder of the season..he and the team will have to show automatic promotion winning form for a long stretch That's the paradox. If we show promotion form over the last eighteen matches with 10 of them at home (Norwich apart the away games are much better than they could be) we should get very close to the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Mr Pardew would do well to let his Manager skills on the pitch do his talking for him. To make a comment like he has to the media suggests he is a worried man but we do not know in what context the comment was made. For instance Q If you do not get promoted to the CCC at the end of the season do you expect to be sacked A "When I came here, he said I would be judged after 18 months and I expect to be judged after 18 months," said Pardew. "In the future I think we'll produce some really strong results. 'I'm very confident the guys I've brought in here will do a great job. We need to learn from days like this and next year we can become a real force like Leeds have become." Unless we know the question it is difficult to interpret the reason for the comment That said Cortese is clearly not a patient man. Pardew and the team are going to have to show a big improvement in the rest of our fixtures to give owner, Chairman and fans alike the evidence that we will be a force to much for our Div 1 opponents next season He has come out with a few comments that indicate pressure is not far away. The major issue is his statement in the programme notes prioritising the cup competitions, whereas Cortese has been banging out consistently that the league must be the priority. Then looking back at some JPT games, it is clear that the subsequent league games showed no sign of favour but the opposite. Any normal chief executive would fire any operating officer who went against a directive in such a manner. Personally I believe this to be just a poor exuse under pressure, factoring in the win over MK Dons on the Tuesday, otherwise I doubt this would ever have come out. Pardew has done nothing more than average so far, when you look at all the results, factor in all the variables then compare this with his peers. The big question Cortese must be asking himself, can I trust this guy when he has done the opposite to his directions? Automatic promotion has to be the objective for next season, not one of the cups if we find ourselves having a lucky run, but poor form in the league. Cortese will be asking himself, what would be the outcome of such a situation be again? Then after all this time, what indication is there that Pardew has the capability of achieving that task? because we have seen no difinitive as yet. If it was me, Pardew would have the rest of this season to prove he can deliver next season, otherwise it makes more sense to get rid of him so not to hamstring someone who can get the job done. The biggest problem and maybe Pardew's saving grace, is being able to get a sufficiently high profile manager that will give you the confidence of automatic promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 He has come out with a few comments that indicate pressure is not far away. The major issue is his statement in the programme notes prioritising the cup competitions, whereas Cortese has been banging out consistently that the league must be the priority. Then looking back at some JPT games, it is clear that the subsequent league games showed no sign of favour but the opposite. Any normal chief executive would fire any operating officer who went against a directive in such a manner. Personally I believe this to be just a poor exuse under pressure, factoring in the win over MK Dons on the Tuesday, otherwise I doubt this would ever have come out. Pardew has done nothing more than average so far, when you look at all the results, factor in all the variables then compare this with his peers. The big question Cortese must be asking himself, can I trust this guy when he has done the opposite to his directions? Automatic promotion has to be the objective for next season, not one of the cups if we find ourselves having a lucky run, but poor form in the league. Cortese will be asking himself, what would be the outcome of such a situation be again? Then after all this time, what indication is there that Pardew has the capability of achieving that task? because we have seen no difinitive as yet. If it was me, Pardew would have the rest of this season to prove he can deliver next season, otherwise it makes more sense to get rid of him so not to hamstring someone who can get the job done. The biggest problem and maybe Pardew's saving grace, is being able to get a sufficiently high profile manager that will give you the confidence of automatic promotion. I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 up and away Weston Saint You two really frustrate the hell out of me......You are so far and up and away the two most arrogant so called Saints supporters on this forum...Time after time you appear to me to have an agenda against Pards, NC and the club... Is there something in your past history with Saints.....I know that up and away was a great supporter of Lord Rupes....Thought you would have gotten over your obsession with Rupes ..As for you Weston Saint..Can't remember if you were a Luvvie or you just have an axe to grind. The pair of you are very puzzling...... Come on a little support for the Saints and Pards instead of this continual ....ish and borish plot.. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2010 He has come out with a few comments that indicate pressure is not far away. The major issue is his statement in the programme notes prioritising the cup competitions, whereas Cortese has been banging out consistently that the league must be the priority. Then looking back at some JPT games, it is clear that the subsequent league games showed no sign of favour but the opposite. Any normal chief executive would fire any operating officer who went against a directive in such a manner. Personally I believe this to be just a poor exuse under pressure, factoring in the win over MK Dons on the Tuesday, otherwise I doubt this would ever have come out. Pardew has done nothing more than average so far, when you look at all the results, factor in all the variables then compare this with his peers. The big question Cortese must be asking himself, can I trust this guy when he has done the opposite to his directions? Automatic promotion has to be the objective for next season, not one of the cups if we find ourselves having a lucky run, but poor form in the league. Cortese will be asking himself, what would be the outcome of such a situation be again? Then after all this time, what indication is there that Pardew has the capability of achieving that task? because we have seen no difinitive as yet. If it was me, Pardew would have the rest of this season to prove he can deliver next season, otherwise it makes more sense to get rid of him so not to hamstring someone who can get the job done. The biggest problem and maybe Pardew's saving grace, is being able to get a sufficiently high profile manager that will give you the confidence of automatic promotion. Although I agree that Pardew has been OK nothing else I find it hard to believe that the cups have not been good for the club. We have had relatively easy draws in the FA Cup so it is not surprising that we got to 5th Round - Likewise in the JPT we had a number of home draws. Of course promotion is the priority but without a second proven goal scorer it has always been difficult I think the season has been excellant but with -10 points and a poor start the Cups have made the season for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Yes we have improved since AP took over, but so we should with the cash input we have had. My worry at the moment is that we the improvment has tailed off; we were playing some realy good football for a while but recently we have resorted to being a bit of a hoof side. I wouldn't mind the hoof if it was winning games, we have to be more inventive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 I too think that he has until Christmas this year to get us into the top two places of this division, with the team giving dominant displays week in week out. However, the team needs to be start delivering those dominant displays far more regularly this season to lay the foundations for a quick start for next season. Yes the big teams will be gone unless Leeds and Norwich have almighty balls ups for the rest of this season, but the fact of the matter is that our results against those teams are not what currently leave us 18 points from a play off position, all be it with two games in hand. So he has to start improving the performances against the teams who have nothing to lose and everything to gain when playing Saints, teams that are so dogged that they have to be battered into submission, only then will we have any hope of getting out of this league at the right end. Look at how long it took Forest to achieve it, and how long it is taking Leeds, because the lesser teams gave their all against them. I know that they didn't/haven't had the resources at Pardews disposal, but that only adds to the pressure that he will be under from Cortese, as the five year plan will not allow another two years in League one, so we are going to have to buck the trend of the other big clubs who have wallowed in this mire. So please Mr Pardew more of the effort levels from Saturday, but with it lasting the entire ninety minutes not seventy five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Interestingly, if Pards thinks we can do a Leeds next season then he must privately think we have no chance of promotion this season (and he's probably right!). AP deserves a lot of credit for the calm and skillful way he dealt with all the problems (lot's) that he found when he came here. I'm sure he never expected to have to rebuild a club from the ground up but he threw himself into that task and never shirked an issue and, quite frankly, we were lucky to have sometime of his experience to drag us out of a deep hole in such a short time. Cortese certainly was as he would have been lost without someone of that ability on board in the early days. By any standards we have had an exciting season so far and for that Pardew must take credit. Now he deserves a full pre season to set things up, but is then on his own. There are a lot of valid excuses for not promoting this season, but none of these will apply next time, so yes we need to be in a powerful position by Xmas, or AP may find himself invited to Cortese's office for a meaningful chat... Only other scenario may be if NC thinks he can bring in a marquee manager that will give greater brand recognition, especially overseas, and in which case he may be sorely tempted. Jose Mourinho would do the trick, but that won't happen. However, that does bring us back to Sven and maybe Cortese might be tempted and possibly they may have mutual contacts in Italian football? Still think NC will stick with Pards until at least Xmas, before reviewing though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 (edited) up and away Weston Saint You two really frustrate the hell out of me......You are so far and up and away the two most arrogant so called Saints supporters on this forum...Time after time you appear to me to have an agenda against Pards, NC and the club... Is there something in your past history with Saints.....I know that up and away was a great supporter of Lord Rupes....Thought you would have gotten over your obsession with Rupes ..As for you Weston Saint..Can't remember if you were a Luvvie or you just have an axe to grind. The pair of you are very puzzling...... Come on a little support for the Saints and Pards instead of this continual ....ish and borish plot.. COYRs I have no axe to grind. I was born in Southampton in 1952, lived here all my life, have only ever supported Saints. Delighted with our Owner and admire what Cortese has done so far (that does not stop me being critical if I do not agree with some of what he does from time to time) Thought Pardew was an excellent catch at the time but with the good signings he has made I am a little concerned he may not be up to the job but happy to see where we are at the end of the season. As for Lowe, it seems to me it is you who have the fixation, keep mentioning his name when someone disagrees with the way Saints are at times. I was neither a supporter or a hater of Lowe. I could see the decent things he did but he did a lot of damage as well. He was an arrogant, self interested non listener. What does your brother think of the present situation, him being an ex player with close contacts? Edited 15 February, 2010 by Weston Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 I think the "eighteen months" was - as it usually is - on the proviso that we're making satisfactory progress. After the expensive buying spree, I could understand it if Cortese is yet to be convinced. Another thought. If we had a DoF (someone who knows more about football than Cortese) I think AP's position might be a little dodgier than it is, because he has made some rather questionable line-up and tactical decisions. TBF I'd hoped we'd be a little farther forward in the league, but I do think that the cups took us away from the plan somewhat. That might be Cortese's point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 up and away Weston Saint You two really frustrate the hell out of me......You are so far and up and away the two most arrogant so called Saints supporters on this forum...Time after time you appear to me to have an agenda against Pards, NC and the club... Is there something in your past history with Saints.....I know that up and away was a great supporter of Lord Rupes....Thought you would have gotten over your obsession with Rupes ..As for you Weston Saint..Can't remember if you were a Luvvie or you just have an axe to grind. The pair of you are very puzzling...... Come on a little support for the Saints and Pards instead of this continual ....ish and borish plot.. COYRs I thought you had ****ed off, promising never to return? Or has a change of medication brought you into a whole new world? You will find absolutely nothing against Cortese and Liebherr from me, what ever they decide I will gladly fall behind, even if that is Pardew. What I am stating here is near enough what the majority have stated. I am not expecting Pardew to make the play off's, that is totally unrealistic now. But like many others, what we are saying is that Pardew must show by the end of this season, some indication to have that chance of taking things up to next Christmas, otherwise what is the point? In your deluded world, you may feel that you are speaking for Cortese, but from everything that has been coming out, that is not the case. agreed, unless of course we lose Lallana, Schneiderlin and Lambert in the summer. That would hit us hard and he would have to rebuild. Mind you the money would be there if those players went so even that wouldn't be an excuse. This being one of the reasons why the play off's should have been the priority this season. Pardew struggled at the beginning and eventually turned things round to make the play off's a viable option. Subsequently Pardew has repeated all sorts of errors, time and time again to take the play off's out of the realm of realistic possibility. What we have seen, is all the good and bad he displayed at previous clubs and nothing more than average considering all factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Who's Ottery's brother then.....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 I have no axe to grind. I was born in Southampton in 1952, lived here all my life, have only ever supported Saints. Delighted with our Owner and admire what Cortese has done so far (that does not stop me being critical if I do not agree with some of what he does from time to time) Thought Pardew was an excellent catch at the time but with the good signings he has made I am a little concerned he may not be up to the job but happy to see where we are at the end of the season. As for Lowe, it seems to me it is you who have the fixation, keep mentioning his name when someone disagrees with the was Saints are at times. I was neither a supporter or a hater of Lowe. I could see the decent things he did but he did a lot of damage as well. He was an arrogant, self interested non listener. What does your brother think of the present situation, him being an ex player with close contacts? Your opinion is always welcome by me ..on most occasions..and I show no disrespect to you.. but Like Duncan Holley ( who I also have the utmost respect for)... just lateley IMO you have veered away from being the great supporters of the club, I believe you to be.....Could just be me , the way I view your posts recently..that little edge.. I do not fight those I disagree with but have a go out of frustration with those who attack what is going on now... Honestly respect almost all posters and even those I do not..are entitled to their opinion.. Lowe is almost a distant bad dream in my past.... Thank God.. Very nasty to me personally and some strange things going on with him...Yesterdays news.. I have suggested that some with an axe to grind were/maybe of The Lowe group still attempting to undermine The Saints...Opinion:rolleyes: In some cases there may even be an hidden agenda for other reasons... Maybe I am wrong..No offence intended but some strange posts by you, up and away recently... This was also very clear to me, IMO, when you and some posters appeared to jump on the , Lets bash NC bandwagon..Probably wrong but that is what yours and others, recent posts have suggested to me.. I suppose that BEING A DREAMER and loving Saints :smt100 and having been through those dreadful days with our own previous poor leaders..(careful not to mention Rupes) I had hoped we would all pull together and get Saints back to the top.....I am as bad as anybody at times..but still wish the best for Saints and that includes..Pards and NC... I know you do really:) To be fair, I really should have construed your posts as constructive criticism and not a hidden agenda insight...No offence meant.. Just believed you and up and away were Ra Ra team for HIM now gone....... Duncan Holley wasn't but then I am led to believe the club took away a lot of favours for old school...In FF case a tad harsh in my view.. But there you go.. We all know that league results will have to start producing three points much more regularly but there is no doubt that we are an ever improving team and club under ML, NC and Pards.... It just worries me when so called posters want to attack the club and Pards whilst it is still a work in progress.. In view of my utter dislike and belief that others in the past were killing the club...I have no room to criticise. I am my own person and none of my brothers have anything to do with my opinion or postings on this forum... Wondered why you should mention that on here..Very strange indeed.. ..are you making some sort of point ..very strange.. I will have to speak to FF Two of my brothers had/have close links to the club and ex Saints....Like me, all my family...Big family around town and certainly if not all most of them certainly love the Saints and many regularly attend games.. always wanting us to do well and hopefully hell of a lot will be at Wembley.... Generally the consensus of opinion ....Some post on here....They all have their own opinion but I suggest most .. would be on the lines.. WHY ARE OUR OWN SUPPORTERS BASHING PARDS AND NC.....Now. Opinions..You just got to luv em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Your opinion is always welcome by me ..on most occasions..and I show no disrespect to you.. but Like Duncan Holley ( who I also have the utmost respect for)... just lateley IMO you have veered away from being the great supporters of the club, I believe you to be.....Could just be me , the way I view your posts recently..that little edge.. I do not fight those I disagree with but have a go out of frustration with those who attack what is going on now... Honestly respect almost all posters and even those I do not..are entitled to their opinion.. Lowe is almost a distant bad dream in my past.... Thank God.. Very nasty to me personally and some strange things going on with him...Yesterdays news.. I have suggested that some with an axe to grind were/maybe of The Lowe group still attempting to undermine The Saints...Opinion:rolleyes: In some cases there may even be an hidden agenda for other reasons... Maybe I am wrong..No offence intended but some strange posts by you, up and away recently... This was also very clear to me, IMO, when you and some posters appeared to jump on the , Lets bash NC bandwagon..Probably wrong but that is what yours and others, recent posts have suggested to me.. I suppose that BEING A DREAMER and loving Saints :smt100 and having been through those dreadful days with our own previous poor leaders..(careful not to mention Rupes) I had hoped we would all pull together and get Saints back to the top.....I am as bad as anybody at times..but still wish the best for Saints and that includes..Pards and NC... I know you do really:) To be fair, I really should have construed your posts as constructive criticism and not a hidden agenda insight...No offence meant.. Just believed you and up and away were Ra Ra team for HIM now gone....... Duncan Holley wasn't but then I am led to believe the club took away a lot of favours for old school...In FF case a tad harsh in my view.. But there you go.. We all know that league results will have to start producing three points much more regularly but there is no doubt that we are an ever improving team and club under ML, NC and Pards.... It just worries me when so called posters want to attack the club and Pards whilst it is still a work in progress.. In view of my utter dislike and belief that others in the past were killing the club...I have no room to criticise. I am my own person and none of my brothers have anything to do with my opinion or postings on this forum... Wondered why you should mention that on here..Very strange indeed.. ..are you making some sort of point ..very strange.. I will have to speak to FF Two of my brothers had/have close links to the club and ex Saints....Like me, all my family...Big family around town and certainly if not all most of them certainly love the Saints and many regularly attend games.. always wanting us to do well and hopefully hell of a lot will be at Wembley.... Generally the consensus of opinion ....Some post on here....They all have their own opinion but I suggest most .. would be on the lines.. WHY ARE OUR OWN SUPPORTERS BASHING PARDS AND NC.....Now. Opinions..You just got to luv em! I just think you get a little carried away people are just having a chat and discussing things. Our performances in the League reently have not been that good recently so as Manager Pardew has to take some responsibility Obviously the posters want Saints to do well but in this day and age there is always the possibility of a change of manager especially as NC appears a little hot headed he is an Italian PS Forget about Lowe as he has gone so I am told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Guys can we limit all posts to a maximum of 35 words? Ta x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 What NC was saying was common sense our League form has not been good and it needs to improve - whats wrong with that.[/QUOTE] Nothing at all. The frustrating thing is, that had we won most of the matches that we only drew, against really crapsides, then we WOULD be pushing for the Top Six That, I would imagine is the thing that is bugging Nicola And quite rightlt too. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Guys can we limit all posts to a maximum of 35 words? Ta x I skip the really long posts too, they bore the f*ck out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Your opinion is always welcome by me ..on most occasions..and I show no disrespect to you.. but Like Duncan Holley ( who I also have the utmost respect for)... just lateley IMO you have veered away from being the great supporters of the club, I believe you to be.....Could just be me , the way I view your posts recently..that little edge.. I do not fight those I disagree with but have a go out of frustration with those who attack what is going on now... Honestly respect almost all posters and even those I do not..are entitled to their opinion.. Lowe is almost a distant bad dream in my past.... Thank God.. Very nasty to me personally and some strange things going on with him...Yesterdays news.. I have suggested that some with an axe to grind were/maybe of The Lowe group still attempting to undermine The Saints...Opinion:rolleyes: In some cases there may even be an hidden agenda for other reasons... Maybe I am wrong..No offence intended but some strange posts by you, up and away recently... This was also very clear to me, IMO, when you and some posters appeared to jump on the , Lets bash NC bandwagon..Probably wrong but that is what yours and others, recent posts have suggested to me.. I suppose that BEING A DREAMER and loving Saints :smt100 and having been through those dreadful days with our own previous poor leaders..(careful not to mention Rupes) I had hoped we would all pull together and get Saints back to the top.....I am as bad as anybody at times..but still wish the best for Saints and that includes..Pards and NC... I know you do really:) To be fair, I really should have construed your posts as constructive criticism and not a hidden agenda insight...No offence meant.. Just believed you and up and away were Ra Ra team for HIM now gone....... Duncan Holley wasn't but then I am led to believe the club took away a lot of favours for old school...In FF case a tad harsh in my view.. But there you go.. We all know that league results will have to start producing three points much more regularly but there is no doubt that we are an ever improving team and club under ML, NC and Pards.... It just worries me when so called posters want to attack the club and Pards whilst it is still a work in progress.. In view of my utter dislike and belief that others in the past were killing the club...I have no room to criticise. I am my own person and none of my brothers have anything to do with my opinion or postings on this forum... Wondered why you should mention that on here..Very strange indeed.. ..are you making some sort of point ..very strange.. I will have to speak to FF Two of my brothers had/have close links to the club and ex Saints....Like me, all my family...Big family around town and certainly if not all most of them certainly love the Saints and many regularly attend games.. always wanting us to do well and hopefully hell of a lot will be at Wembley.... Generally the consensus of opinion ....Some post on here....They all have their own opinion but I suggest most .. would be on the lines.. WHY ARE OUR OWN SUPPORTERS BASHING PARDS AND NC.....Now. Opinions..You just got to luv em!No further comment from me on your post. Private Message sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Guys can we limit all posts to a maximum of 35 words? Ta x or much shorter for some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 I must admit that I have been happy with the season so far....it is better than I expected,although there is room for improvement. If at the start of the season you said that we would be in the JPT final and finish mid table with an outside chance of a playoff place I would have ripped your arm from it's socket, but it is not my money pardew has at his disposal,the owners could see it differently and be expecting a better return for their money...who knows? If it is obvious that come Christmas we havnt got a chance of getting out of this league then I would not be happy but most importantly I don't think NC and ML would be either. If it is obvious that we won't get promoted next season then serious questions have to be raised about everybody,players,owners and pardew.....although with a decent pre season,a couple of decent signings and a 'level playing field' start then I can't see too many problems in getting promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 February, 2010 Share Posted 15 February, 2010 Xmas is fair...but for the remainder of the season..he and the team will have to show automatic promotion winning form for a long stretch Yep. And as long as we end up within 10pts of the playoffs, AP has a good argument and has won a moral victory. But the manner in which we finish this league campaign will give a strong indicator of how the next will proceed. Finishing strongly is essential. So whilst I support giving AP until Xmas, if we finish this season limp-wristed with a squeak, I would not be surprised if NC wielded the axe over the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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