david in sweden Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Poll anyone ...? Now that we have (almost agreed) to sign Calderon..what happens to the other wannabe right backs on the books.? I know Dan Harding has played there but he IS a left back in my book. Otsemobor is on loan with an, as yet, undecided future. Murty looked good when he started but how will he be when back in training? James - never a first choice RB, but equally unimpressive in midfield. Wayne Thomas - stood in a few times but if he's OOC - what happens then..? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I would want James to Leave, think Murty will retire sooner rather than later. Don't mind Thomas playing as RB, has done well in the JPT as cover there. Pardew may choose to get Otsemembor in cheap for cover though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Poll anyone ...? Now that we have (almost agreed) to sign Calderon..what happens to the other wannabe right backs on the books.? I know Dan Harding has played there but he IS a left back in my book. Otsemobor is on loan with an, as yet, undecided future. Murty looked good when he started but how will he be when back in training? James - never a first choice RB, but equally unimpressive in midfield. Wayne Thomas - stood in a few times but if he's OOC - what happens then..? :confused: No he's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Poll anyone ...? Now that we have (almost agreed) to sign Calderon..what happens to the other wannabe right backs on the books.? I know Dan Harding has played there but he IS a left back in my book. Otsemobor is on loan with an, as yet, undecided future. Murty looked good when he started but how will he be when back in training? James - never a first choice RB, but equally unimpressive in midfield. Wayne Thomas - stood in a few times but if he's OOC - what happens then..? :confused: :-? Since when? FWIW, get rid of James and Murty. Undecided on Thomas and Semi. One but not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Spoke to Murty, very briefly, after the game yesterday. Asked how we was doing and he said his recovery was going well and he hoped to be fit soon - no indication of retirement, but then why would he tell me that. My point is that he was good when he played this season and, if he's fit, then he should be given another chance to challenge for RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 :-? Since when? Did a fiiiiine job there at Wembley. My two pence. Have Calderon as first choice and Semi as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Calderon first choice James as backup because he's more versatile and Semi has been a bit dodgy this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 id be happy with Semi and Calderon. think semi gets too much undeserved stick, what exactly as he done wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 i think semi could be useful as cover for RW too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 On the couple of times I've seen him, I've not been impressed with Semi, but I wouldn't be against him being given a one year contract. James is a utility player, bit a right back, but if we still have him next season, I doubt he'll play much. I'd be very suprised if Murty doesn't retire, he's now too much of a liability. Which leaves Thomas. Keep him, if we can knock his wages down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 James should never play RB again. Semi is at least a specialist RB, but nothing special. Let's hope we are signing this Calderon and that he's as good as we have heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Poll anyone ...? Now that we have (almost agreed) to sign Calderon..what happens to the other wannabe right backs on the books.? I know Dan Harding has played there but he IS a left back in my book. Otsemobor is on loan with an, as yet, undecided future. Murty looked good when he started but how will he be when back in training? James - never a first choice RB, but equally unimpressive in midfield. Wayne Thomas - stood in a few times but if he's OOC - what happens then..? :confused: Otsemobor is not on loan he signed a 6 month contract which ends in the summer. Thomas is not a right back and neither is Harding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Calderon is 28, and according to the BHA website, before he signed for Brighton in January he had been rejected by Gillingham and Norwich. He's said to have done well for Brighton and they certainly were an improved team from Jan onwards, but rejected by Gillingham! Pleased the club have moved so quickly to bring in a RB but this will be a step up for Calderon quite late in his career, so we need to have faith in the scouting system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 id be happy with Semi and Calderon. think semi gets too much undeserved stick, what exactly as he done wrong? Ditto. Actually I'd keep Thomas too, as a CB. Prof - Harding was unwanted by Ipswich... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Calderon is 28, and according to the BHA website, before he signed for Brighton in January he had been rejected by Gillingham and Norwich. He's said to have done well for Brighton and they certainly were an improved team from Jan onwards, but rejected by Gillingham! Pleased the club have moved so quickly to bring in a RB but this will be a step up for Calderon quite late in his career, so we need to have faith in the scouting system. Since when is "Late in his career" 28??? He should actually be at his prime, no better time to "Step up" (and its not that big a step at the moment, they are in the same division as us) As for being rejected by Gills and Norwich, I wouldn't even pay heed to it. Plenty of very very good footballers have been rejected by other clubs. Its part and parcel of their career, and very likely to be a mistake on the part of coaching staff as a problem with the player themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Calderon is 28, and according to the BHA website, before he signed for Brighton in January he had been rejected by Gillingham and Norwich. He's said to have done well for Brighton and they certainly were an improved team from Jan onwards, but rejected by Gillingham! Pleased the club have moved so quickly to bring in a RB but this will be a step up for Calderon quite late in his career, so we need to have faith in the scouting system. Didier Drogba and Emmanuel Adebayor have been rejected in the past. Does that make them bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Calderon with Semi as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Semi is much better than James at RB. I would let James go, offer Thomas a contract on reduced terms, sign Semi and release Murty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolosfc Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Get rid of James, ok as cover but still totally unsure of his best position. I'd keep either Thomas or Otsemebor as cover, preferably both if Thomas is willing to take a wage cut because he can cover CB or RB. Murty will retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Poll anyone ...? Now that we have (almost agreed) to sign Calderon..what happens to the other wannabe right backs on the books.? I know Dan Harding has played there but he IS a left back in my book. Otsemobor is on loan with an, as yet, undecided future. Murty looked good when he started but how will he be when back in training? James - never a first choice RB, but equally unimpressive in midfield. Wayne Thomas - stood in a few times but if he's OOC - what happens then..? :confused: Harding is a left back, never a doubt to that, only played right back in an emergency. Otsemobor might have a shout of a deal even if we sign Calderon, as Murty is unlikely to get another deal. I can see Bournemouth picking him up on a pay-to-play, not sure we'll offer that to him. James is a defensive midfielder primarily and was clearly inferior to Thomas, Murty and maybe Otsemobor too, will struggle to make the XI next season anywhere. I THINK Thomas' contract is up, in which case we should probably let him go unless we can renegotiate it downwards, he's done reasonably well when given the chance, but he was (reportedly) overpaid for his impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Calderon first choice James as backup because he's more versatile and Semi has been a bit dodgy this season. I keep hearing on Solent (well in the match commentaries) that James is out of contract this summer although he doesn't appear on any of the lists of out of contract players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 I keep hearing on Solent (well in the match commentaries) that James is out of contract this summer although he doesn't appear on any of the lists of out of contract players. Difficult to know, as he was out of contract LAST season but played in pre-season on the wrong side of his July 1 expiry. I heard at Eastleigh (first friendly, when we weren't sure we'd make the second one) that he'd had a contract extension, but given the uncertainty and lack of funds at the time, not sure how that could have been possible. Clearly something happened though, as he stayed all season, unlike Wotte and Svensson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 FWIW we need player for each position and from what I've seen of Semi he's done enough to b given the opportunity to compete with Calderon (IF we sign him) their different players anyway really, Calderon looks composed and seems an excellent paser (from the youtube clips admittedly) whereas Semi is lightning but at times a bit of a headless chicken. I certainly feel there is room for both in the squad and am happy with Mills covering for Harding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Well my view on Semi is that he's caught out of position to often and also bottles far to many tackles for my liking , backs off far to much as does Seabourne. Ok going forward but needs to realise that he has to track back far quicker when Saints lose the ball, hence being wildly out of position. Think the bigger miss is a central midfielder for Hammond or Spiderman, Puncheon can do a job there but he's much better out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 If Otsemobor is not a first choice he will start to mentally deteriorating again. We are better off finding a youngster somewhere who is excited about playing and with some potential. AP has already made it clear that Murty isn't going to figure in the future; Thomas never set the world alight here; and James....hmmm....sad to see a Saints product leave, but he'd have a better career elsewhere. We must build for the future and not sentimentally hold on to those we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Thomas and Murty will all be released, Perry as well. Semi will get a new contract. So that will give us two right backs. James is classified as a midfielder in Pardew's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Calderon as first choice have Murty as back up, get in car and drive James and Semi away as far as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Calderon as first choice have Murty as back up, get in car and drive James and Semi away as far as possible. Pardew strongly hinted that Murty wouldn't play for Saints again back in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Otsemobor is not on loan he signed a 6 month contract which ends in the summer. Thomas is not a right back and neither is Harding. I stand corrected ....Ostemobor has a contact till the end of the season. Neither Thomas OR Harding are RB... but I think they have filled that role at some time or another this season - haven't they ? Harding is LB ....and Thomas is what is unkindly called a utilty player but I wish we had more of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 (edited) Argent to be back up at RB...If Calderon is a definite signing.... Await the experts report on Argents progress.....Good enough..you are old enough. Edited 10 May, 2010 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Argent to be back up at RB...If Calderon is a definite signing.... you don't think Semi will get a new deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 (edited) you don't think Semi will get a new deal? If Argent or other youth not good enough.....Await others view on Argent..I was told he was making very good progress... What I have seen to date..Sign Calderon and Ots as back up if no trust in Argent. Sorry forgot to add....Ots sometimes looks great..speed and all and other times..no decision making..Grey area re heading/tackling..Needs more guts....Maybe Calderon will show him... Edited 10 May, 2010 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Didier Drogba and Emmanuel Adebayor have been rejected in the past. Does that make them bad? If memory serves, Drogba was rejected by Saints, having been spotted and recommended by Terry Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 If memory serves, Drogba was rejected by Saints, having been spotted and recommended by Terry Cooper Too similar to BT apparently..... yeah.... (Or am I confusing Drogba with Nonda... if so then we ducked a bullet, since he appears to have disappeared after a pretty bad injury) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 id be happy with Semi and Calderon. think semi gets too much undeserved stick, what exactly as he done wrong? What exactly has he done right ? We're looking at players who could play top half CCC and Semi isn't good enough. Semi's alright as cover but I would prefer to keep Thomas as h plays centre back as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Otsemobor isn't on loan he's on a 6 month contract from January! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2010 If memory serves, Drogba was rejected by Saints, having been spotted and recommended by Terry Cooper I heard that ...RL rejected him because he thought DD had "...an attitude " ......WOW what a good judge of a ´footballer he was ...:finga: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 What exactly has he done right ? We're looking at players who could play top half CCC and Semi isn't good enough. Semi's alright as cover but I would prefer to keep Thomas as h plays centre back as well. Thomas is too slow to play right back. After the skates running riot down the left wing right in fron of Pardew's nose he will never again leave himself short of pace at fullback. Thomas won't get a new deal anyway as Pardew clearly does not rate him. He's spot on as well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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