trousers Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Please can someone with a medical background (or access to Wikipedia) please tell me how dislocating a shoulder in July renders a player unable to play a game of football until October? Isn't it just a bone coming out of a socket and being put back again? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Please can someone with a medical background (or access to Wikipedia) please tell me how dislocating a shoulder in July renders a player unable to play a game of football until October? Isn't it just a bone coming out of a socket and being put back again? Thanks Think it's the ligament damage that goes with it that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Not long till October now. I for one am hoping he can provide a bit more width from right full back. Hopefully if Dixon can get a run in the team and perform much better than against bournemouth they can be the solution to our narrow play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2010 I assume he'll have been able to keep relatively fit whilst out? i.e. he can still run around and stuff so won't be starting from 'square one' on the back to fitness ladder....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 The length of time he's spent out is probably due to ligament damage and making sure that it doesn't happen again, as shoulder injuries can come back to haunt players. Walcott's still got shoulder issues now I think, remember reading about his dislocated shoulder and how it kept coming out during matches but he'd just pop it back in and keep playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Dislocated shoulders can be very painful; I know I have dislocated my shoulder twice playing football. As stated above its not so much the bone coming out of the socket; it's the damage to the ligament and muscle tissue. As for keeping fit, would have been difficult in the early stages as any shudden or jolting movement would have been very painful - walking at a reasonable pace would have been acceptable!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 I thought the reason for being out was the surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Isn't it just a bone coming out of a socket and being put back again? Thanks It is a very complicated joint and dislocating it may have caused untold damage to the surrounding muscles and ligaments which take months to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Depends on the trauma involved. Assuming it was a fall then the joint capsule and ligaments are usually torn, and the labrum may also be damaged. Once there has been a dislocation of the shoulder, the joint will have a degree of instability and will be more likely to dislocate again, or become subluxed (where it moves slightly but not fully out of joint). This is because the ligaments, capsule and labrum are damaged and cannot restrain the humeral head and prevent dislocation. In order to prevent dislocation, the Rotator Cuff muscles (4 small muscles situated around the shoulder joint) that surround the humeral head should be strengthened. Sporting activity should be avoided for 6-8 weeks for rest and then strengthening exercise. Only then should sport training be persued (after clearance from medical team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Not long till October now. I for one am hoping he can provide a bit more width from right full back. Hopefully if Dixon can get a run in the team and perform much better than against bournemouth they can be the solution to our narrow play. When did we sign Dixon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Please can someone with a medical background (or access to Wikipedia) please tell me how dislocating a shoulder in July renders a player unable to play a game of football until October? Isn't it just a bone coming out of a socket and being put back again? ThanksYou can post on here but cannot use wikipedia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Especially when Pulis does the same thing and it gets "popped back in" pitchside and he's back within a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Especially when Pulis does the same thing and it gets "popped back in" pitchside and he's back within a week No two injuries are ever the same. Yes, both might be labelled as dislocated shoulders, doesn't mean they did the same amount of damage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Well **** me! I didn't know we had so many doctors on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 i dont understand why he couldn't just have banged his shoulder into the wall and carry on like Mel Gibson did in Leathal Weapon. Pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 i dont understand why he couldn't just have banged his shoulder into the wall and carry on like Mel Gibson did in Leathal Weapon. Pussy. exactly, and I am sure in Escape to Victory, Pele has a similar injury, and not only comes back on but also scores a superb overhead kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 just our luck to sign a quality player who promptly gets proper crocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Put a plaster on it and get on with it.......We are a team of fairies.. My first aid certificate is 20 years out of date......But sure thats what is done on Holby City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 I dislocated my shoulder in a skiing accident, after too much lunch time alcohol, apart from the liagament damage certain disclocations including mine the shoulder kept on coming out ( even in your sleep) eventualy I had to have it pinned, which meant operation and a lot of rehab, ps I'm no doctor can you tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 My brother suffered a dislocated shoulder playing rugby. It kept popping back out, doing less and less strenuous things, including the last time when it popped out when all he did was bend over to pick something up. After that surgery was a necessity on it. So yes, it can be a nasty injury and unless it's properly treated will keep coming back to haunt whoever has suffered it. It's a pain Richardson's been out for so long, but for the good of his career as well as his long term health, it's a good thing they've taken their time in bringing him back, just to make sure that the injury has been properly resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 a dislocated shoulder is aparantly one of the most painful injuries to do...minus breaking a bone of course... ...my housemate did it this week and he's a keeper, been told he wont play for around 3 months. 3 days into it he has it out of the sling but it'll be ages until he can save a full power shot, very little range of movement because of the ligaments and tendons that have been injured. Tendons will only extend 6% of their length before repturing, not sure if frazer did that but if he did then any contact will be sore and weight training out of the question. I reptured my calcaneous ligament last september...and its still not fully healed as i did not have professionla help. i have just started training again with my university team. Can be very complex to get right depending on the type of tear. when i read he was out i thought it would be around 3 months until he was playing reserve football but we will see. p.s i study sport and exercise science at uni...thats why i am ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 a dislocated shoulder is aparantly one of the most painful injuries to do...minus breaking a bone of course... ...my housemate did it this week and he's a keeper, been told he wont play for around 3 months. 3 days into it he has it out of the sling but it'll be ages until he can save a full power shot, very little range of movement because of the ligaments and tendons that have been injured. Tendons will only extend 6% of their length before repturing, not sure if frazer did that but if he did then any contact will be sore and weight training out of the question. I reptured my calcaneous ligament last september...and its still not fully healed as i did not have professionla help. i have just started training again with my university team. Can be very complex to get right depending on the type of tear. when i read he was out i thought it would be around 3 months until he was playing reserve football but we will see. p.s i study sport and exercise science at uni...thats why i am ITK. So you're a student who can't spell. You're also studying sport and exercise...god help us you're Nigel Adkins aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 I knew someone about 18 years ago who dislocated their shoulder. No idea how long it took them to recover. Hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 September, 2010 Share Posted 23 September, 2010 Footage of him training on Saints Player so hopefully not too much longer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2010 You can post on here but cannot use wikipedia? It's a rare disorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinAus Posted 24 September, 2010 Share Posted 24 September, 2010 Aussie rules player just pop it back in and play on, then play the next week with it strapped - man up Richardson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 24 September, 2010 Share Posted 24 September, 2010 When did we sign Dixon? About the same time we signed Speedie - I reckon they will score more goals than Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 24 September, 2010 Share Posted 24 September, 2010 (edited) exactly, and I am sure in Escape to Victory, Pele has a similar injury, and not only comes back on but also scores a superb overhead kick And Maradonna had it when his arm just flew up and out of joint and accidentally put the ball in the net over Shilton's head. Goal because it wasn't intentional. He hared back towards the halfway line so fast that air pressure just popped it straight back in. (Little known) FACT. Edited 24 September, 2010 by hughieslastminutegoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2010 Share Posted 24 September, 2010 Well **** me! I didn't know we had so many doctors on this forum. Doctors,Lawyers,Football Managers and Players,Execs of Blue Chip companies,Top flight bankers and market traders,Sports Physios,Nobel winning philosophers.... you name it we've got it....trouble is it's the same posters claiming to be it each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 24 September, 2010 Share Posted 24 September, 2010 I dislocated my left shoulder in a skiing accident about 10 years ago and it has never been the same since. I dislocated my right shoulder 3 weeks ago in an incident in a kids playground. Dislocated shoulders hurt. As far as I can see its only beer and blojobs that take the pain away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 24 September, 2010 Share Posted 24 September, 2010 I dislocated my left shoulder in a skiing accident about 10 years ago and it has never been the same since. I dislocated my right shoulder 3 weeks ago in an incident in a kids playground. Dislocated shoulders hurt. As far as I can see its only beer and blojobs that take the pain away. Well I'll buy you a pint but that is it. You have to draw the line somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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