Staplewood Development?

[eling-saint]

Anyone know how the revamp is going? I am sure I can see some new buildings from the Marchwood bypass which look like they are at Staplewood? However I recall a previous post stating that there was an issue with the builders?

[The Kraken]

If this mock up is in any way accurate then its unlikely you'd be able to see it from the bypass.

 

 

And I'd have thought we'd have had a press release / OS announcement if work was actually under way.

[Smirking_Saint]

Work has had a few set backs, it isn't going ahead at the moment but i think it may be re-commencing soon. There was issues with the builders at the time that didn't accept the terms put forward by Cortese, these terms were pretty reasonable but they couldn't come to an agreement.

 

There are other issues that are directly effecting the build and they should be ironed out soon.

[Jonnyboy]

ps - our billionaire has popped his clogs.

[hypochondriac]

Work has had a few set backs, it isn't going ahead at the moment but i think it may be re-commencing soon. There was issues with the builders at the time that didn't accept the terms put forward by Cortese, these terms were pretty reasonable but they couldn't come to an agreement.

 

There are other issues that are directly effecting the build and they should be ironed out soon.

 

I see you are posting this as fact

[Smirking_Saint]

I see you are posting this as fact

 

Yes, as part of my job.

[hypochondriac]

Yes, as part of my job.

 

I'll believe what I've been told thanks

[aintforever]

Work has had a few set backs, it isn't going ahead at the moment but i think it may be re-commencing soon. There was issues with the builders at the time that didn't accept the terms put forward by Cortese, these terms were pretty reasonable but they couldn't come to an agreement.

 

There are other issues that are directly effecting the build and they should be ironed out soon.

 

If the terms were reasonable why hasn't some other building company taken over - there are plenty of builders looking for work.

[Smirking_Saint]

If the terms were reasonable why hasn't some other building company taken over - there are plenty of builders looking for work.

 

Its not the builders holding it up.

[Smirking_Saint]

I'll believe what I've been told thanks

 

Fine by me, i know this as 100% fact

[hypochondriac]

Fine by me, i know this as 100% fact

 

What were the terms that the builders rejected? Additionally, as 'reasonable terms' is an opinion, it cannot be 100% fact.

[Smirking_Saint]

What were the terms that the builders rejected? Additionally, as 'reasonable terms' is an opinion, it cannot be 100% fact.

 

They are pretty much standard terms within which most contractors carrying out a large job with a schedule and deadline would accept.

[aintforever]

They are pretty much standard terms within which most contractors carrying out a large job with a schedule and deadline would accept.

 

So is it just a case of waiting for funds then?

[hypochondriac]

They are pretty much standard terms within which most contractors carrying out a large job with a schedule and deadline would accept.

 

Well unless you are specific, we are just trusting your judgement. Why would they turn it down?

[Smirking_Saint]

So is it just a case of waiting for funds then?

 

No its not really got anything to do with the contractors atm

[hypochondriac]

No its not really got anything to do with the contractors atm

 

...

[Smirking_Saint]

Well unless you are specific, we are just trusting your judgement. Why would they turn it down?

 

Well if you are privvy to the same information you tell me ??

[hypochondriac]

Well if you are privvy to the same information you tell me ??

 

I'm not the one stating 'standard terms' (whatever they are) as fact.

[Smirking_Saint]

I'm not the one stating 'standard terms' (whatever they are) as fact.

 

Well you seem to believe there were other issues behind the whole saga, i would be interested to know your take on it.

 

I KNOW of 100% reasons why the build cannot currently go ahead and i know of this as fact. Also through dealings i am aware that the contract broke down over terms which i believe are standard more or less but obviously didn't sit too well with one set or another.

[Matthew Le God]

What harm can come of you telling us everything you know then Smirking_Saint? At the very least PM me with it.

[Smirking_Saint]

As well as that, it's extremely hypocritical.

 

Sod off !!

 

I literally have to constantly listen to your 'heard it from a mate, NC is the devil bull'

 

And you have the cheek to call me hypocritical !!

[hypochondriac]

Sod off !!

 

I literally have to constantly listen to your 'heard it from a mate, NC is the devil bull'

 

And you have the cheek to call me hypocritical !!

 

In your own head mate. If you want to point out some examples of my hypocrisy then go ahead.

[Smirking_Saint]

In your own head mate. If you want to point out some examples of my hypocrisy then go ahead.

 

With the infractions flying around i am not getting into a slagging match.

[hypochondriac]

With the infractions flying around i am not getting into a slagging match.

 

Running away then. Standard.

[Smirking_Saint]

Running away then. Standard.

 

As i said before, i am not getting into a slagging match, if you want to PM me then by all means.

[Saint_clark]

Fair enough mate. Deleted my post, you've backed yourself up and provided a (fairly) good reason why you can't put the full details up here. No doubt the club follows these forums for "leaks".

[Dr Who?]

Seems like most the investment at the club has stopped. I do not think there is the same ambition as there was this time last year, and NC has gone very quiet (not saying this is a bad thing), and the 5 year plan seems never to be mentioned. I think that we will lose most of our top earners if we are not looking like going up when the windown opens in Jan. If not it will all be pinned onto promotion come May. I just have the feeling around the ground that this is it, promotion or bust! Well or they will sell up! IMO.

[Dalek2003]

Seems like most the investment at the club has stopped. I do not think there is the same ambition as there was this time last year, and NC has gone very quiet (not saying this is a bad thing), and the 5 year plan seems never to be mentioned. I think that we will lose most of our top earners if we are not looking like going up when the windown opens in Jan. If not it will all be pinned onto promotion come May. I just have the feeling around the ground that this is it, promotion or bust! Well or they will sell up! IMO.

 

That is a very loaded statement indeed. Are you saying that the Liebherr's will pull out at the end of the season if we don't go up ?

[Andy_Porter]

That is a very loaded statement indeed. Are you saying that the Liebherr's will pull out at the end of the season if we don't go up ?

 

Maybe they allready have?

 

FWIW even with a business model based just on our football based income and nothing from the Liebherrs being put into the club we should have more than enough about us to get promoted within a couple of seasons if we can get a bit of stability off the pitch - keep Adkins for a while!

[Thedelldays]

maybe the inheritance law in the neutral zone (switzerland) is somewhat drawn out..???

[Smirking_Saint]

The development has nothing to do with funds either, or it wasn't.

 

I always worry about the Liebherrs upping and moving on aswell but i think we are ok. We will spend in Jan IMO and keep our best players.

[Crab Lungs]

Well you seem to believe there were other issues behind the whole saga, i would be interested to know your take on it.

 

I KNOW of 100% reasons why the build cannot currently go ahead and i know of this as fact. Also through dealings i am aware that the contract broke down over terms which i believe are standard more or less but obviously didn't sit too well with one set or another.

 

 

Oooooooooh, I love inside knowledge!!! Any chance of a PM, Smirking Saint?

 

(please)

[JustMike]

Well unless you are specific, we are just trusting your judgement. Why would they turn it down?

 

but you already said that you believe what you have been told, so why argue about it?

[dronskisaint]

The paranoia on here is unreal

 

Why does a five year plan need constant references?

 

Lots of building jobs start, stop & then start again for multiple practical, contractual, planning or even just change of needs reasons...why does this have to be an issue with anything else?

 

I'm a Saints fan so am well used to expectations not being met as hoped/expected/promised....I've also had building work frustrated for all the reasons above...let's keep some perspective here guys!

[doggface]

What I would say is that the communication from the club on this issue has been poor.

 

Seems to be a common theme these days

[landford.saint]

Seem to remember that when NC had tea with the fans, it was trotted back that the actual plans had been modified and the whole lot had gone back for planning approval.

[doggface]

Heard today that work is likely to be completed within 18 months which would take us to the pre season 2012/13.

 

Bit longer than I hoped.

[Matthew Le God]

Heard today

 

From where?

[Saint_clark]

Heard today that work is likely to be completed within 18 months which would take us to the pre season 2012/13.

 

Bit longer than I hoped.

 

Depends on the scale of the development really.

[benjii]

The paranoia on here is unreal

 

Why does a five year plan need constant references?

 

Lots of building jobs start, stop & then start again for multiple practical, contractual, planning or even just change of needs reasons...why does this have to be an issue with anything else?

 

I'm a Saints fan so am well used to expectations not being met as hoped/expected/promised....I've also had building work frustrated for all the reasons above...let's keep some perspective here guys!

 

I have added you to my list of sensible/intelligent forum members.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

The paranoia on here is unreal

 

Why does a five year plan need constant references?

Lots of building jobs start, stop & then start again for multiple practical, contractual, planning or even just change of needs reasons...why does this have to be an issue with anything else?

 

I'm a Saints fan so am well used to expectations not being met as hoped/expected/promised....I've also had building work frustrated for all the reasons above...let's keep some perspective here guys!

 

Possibly becuase no one knows what it contains? I have a five year plan too. Can't really tell you what the milestones are, so I'll let others make them up, make assumptions.

 

People keep saying things like "we are very professionally run, we have a five year plan...." assuming it has in it whatever is necessary to get 2 promotions.

 

Smirking Saint's posts seem to boil down to "there were problems because of the builder.. there aren't problems with the builder now, other things are holding it up, but it isn't finance". So if we have planning consent, we now have the builder on-side, and we have the money, what on earth is the problem? Are the plans being changed? Were they not what we needed at the outset? Are the wrong kind of leaves falling in the trenches? What's the state secret over a bit of training ground rebuilding? Bring in John Pilger, guys.

[spyinthesky]

Rumours are that the building contract was with 'Terry the Jerry' builder.

 

However he experienced a couple of problems.

 

First one was overrunning on a big executive house project on Hayling Island and then on some 'sporting' project on Portsea Island which went into administration.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Rumours are that the building contract was with 'Terry the Jerry' builder.

 

However he experienced a couple of problems.

 

First one was overrunning on a big executive house project on Hayling Island and then on some 'sporting' project on Portsea Island which went into administration.

 

But Smirking Saint says the problem isn't now with the builder..... so the state secret is still safe....

[doggface]

I have no idea why the delay, would be nice if the club told us as there was some fanfare when the plans were unveiled.

 

The club are also installing 2 news grass/synthetic mix pitches which a few of the prem teams have installed this season.

[benjii]

Did the club give an expected completion date when they announced the plans?

 

Can't remember.

[leftback]

Start date more like!!!

Dont hold your breath,money all entwined in switzerland.

The daughter venting her fury over years of nicolina sucking up to Marcus.

[Thedelldays]

Start date more like!!!

Dont hold your breath,money all entwined in switzerland.

The daughter venting her fury over years of nicolina sucking up to Marcus.

 

do you actually support saints..?

if the money dries up...it dries up..

[Smirking_Saint]

Start date more like!!!

Dont hold your breath,money all entwined in switzerland.

The daughter venting her fury over years of nicolina sucking up to Marcus.

 

FFS, go away.

[dockland Dave]

FFS, go away.

 

Why? It is what a lot of us expected to happen. Saints were ML toy, I doubt his heirs have the same attachment to the club, and i suspect are not willing to run with NC costly plans. I don't think Leftbacks comments are a slur on NC.

 

It amazes me how irate people get when they come across an opinion that they has probably been rolling around in the back of their own minds, but would prefer not to hear. Surely as a message board, and as long as those opinions are not offensive, people are quite within there rights to state whatever info they have heard.

[saintscottofthenortham]

I think a few of you are forgetting that members of his family often came over with him to watch us. We have been told that things will not change due to Markus' death. FFS, stop finding things to nit pick over. Some are so negative it is far kin unbelievable.