sadoldgit Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 According to the Echo Pardew's team only failed to score in something like 6 out of 40 odd games. This season we have failed to score in over one third of our games. Needs to be remedied PDQ methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 To be fair, only 7 of those games have been under Adkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 March, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Also lost 9 in 46 last season. This season we have lost 9 in 31 so far. Progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Adkins is a terrible manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Also lost 9 in 46 last season. This season we have lost 9 in 31 so far. Progress? Depends if we get promoted or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 To be fair, only 7 of those games have been under Adkins To be fair the echo says its 13 games we haven't scored in so if its 7 games under him thats still the majority! The 0-0's I've seen under him I always get the impression he fails to make the tactical changes necessary to really change the games e.g. Notts County where his only really attacking sub came after about 80 mins. Hopefully with the added pace up front of Forte we might see some improvement. Seems to me that we could have done with Waigo back again as he always added a different style of play to our tactical locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Also lost 9 in 46 last season. This season we have lost 9 in 31 so far. Progress? 4-5 of those were under Wilkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Adkins is a terrible manager. He really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Also lost 9 in 46 last season. This season we have lost 9 in 31 so far. Progress? What's your agenda this time, SOGGY ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Also lost 9 in 46 last season. This season we have lost 9 in 31 so far. Progress? Depends, it is more important how many we have won, since turning draws into wins is more benficial than the disbenefit of turning draws into losses (+2 points against -1). Last season we won 23 of 46 league games, exactly half. This season so far we have won 15 of 31, i.e. 48%. However if we win 8 of our remaining 15, which is beyond the realms of possibility, we will have won 23 again. Probably be 5 or 6 points less than last season at the end, but then every team at the top apart from Brighton will end up with less points this season than last, the top 6 last term were far more consistent than this. We will probably end up with net more points than last season (taking into account the 10 point penalty) and so will (probably) finish in a high position. So maybe that will be progress, especially as 1 place higher than last season would mean we would at least be in the play-offs. Do I think we are better this season than last? No, probably not, we seem to have a bunch of players who think that all they have to do is turn up and we will win, they need a good kick up the arse. The team are not clicking and the manager needs to sort that. We played poorly against Swindon and won 4-1, we evidently played well agaist Walsall and lst 1-0, something ain't right.In the end though I am still reasonably confident that if we win against the top teams (B&B) we will still go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 March, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2011 What's your agenda this time, SOGGY ? Why does there have to be an agenda Alpine? The simple fact is that we had a good season last year and many of us thought that this season would be stronger. By that I mean beating teams like Walsall away. Do you think we have progressed or just stayed at the same level? For me I was pleased that we kept our better players in January but very disappointed in the other players we brought in. I am not sure if the money is there for a major push to get out of the division but if we don't do it this year it will be harder next year because I can't see our brighter stars staying on much longer in League 1. Do you think we will go up? Right now I wouldn't put my mortgage on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 Pardew's decision to give Connelly a new contract, Lambert's woeful form in the first part of the season, if Guly was signed as a striker (I doubt he was) then whoever signed him, Lallana's injury, Adkins totally ignoring Barnard for most of the season, and the failure to sign a top class striker in the window have all played a major part. Proportion that blame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubsaint Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 we need someone who runs at defenders and puts the fear of God in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfnPanad Posted 3 March, 2011 Share Posted 3 March, 2011 we need someone who runs at defenders and puts the fear of God in them Like Lallana, O-C and Guly can all do when they have a mind to? ...doesn't turn into goals anymore though...Oldham game was great - I was there - but since then (bar the raised game for ManUre) they just seem to think they are too good to bother trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 4-5 of those were under Wilkins No they weren't, Wilkins lost 3 games if you include MK Dons,Pardew 1 and the other 5 are down to the current incumbent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 we need someone who runs at defenders and puts the fear of God in them I now have this vision of lallana runing down the wing wearing a dog collar and holding large crucifix out in fromt of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 I now have this vision of lallana runing down the wing wearing a dog collar and holding large crucifix out in fromt of him. Oh for a good old fashioned inquisition... er winger! Various posters keep saying that Saints should have signed better players, but who are these better players and how do they know they would perform here? For every Fonte, there will be a Puncheon. It would be different if a Bellamy situation arose but that isn't going to happen, we're in sh!tty division 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 Why does there have to be an agenda Alpine? The simple fact is that we had a good season last year and many of us thought that this season would be stronger. By that I mean beating teams like Walsall away. Do you think we have progressed or just stayed at the same level? For me I was pleased that we kept our better players in January but very disappointed in the other players we brought in. I am not sure if the money is there for a major push to get out of the division but if we don't do it this year it will be harder next year because I can't see our brighter stars staying on much longer in League 1. Do you think we will go up? Right now I wouldn't put my mortgage on it. The hypocrite strikes back. Your favourite pompous patronising routine used to be "money doesn't mean anything, money doesn't deliver success". Your usual pompous arse routine about money being meaningless when your boyfriend the pi ss ant Burley was at the helm. How much "money" needs to be "there" for a "major push" in League one? League frigging one. We're already the biggest spenders and the most expensive squad in the division by a country mile and now you're demanding more money spent for a "major push". Like a "major push" isn't already f u cking happening, we've got Million pound players in the team and said no to multi million pound advances for at least one of our players recently. How much more money? How much more "major push"? This kind of spend-spend-spend nonsense was the kind of thing you used to rail against when you had your head up Lowe's backside. Your feeble attempts to find a stick to beat the current regime with is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 The hypocrite strikes back. Your favourite pompous patronising routine used to be "money doesn't mean anything, money doesn't deliver success". Your usual pompous arse routine about money being meaningless when your boyfriend the pi ss ant Burley was at the helm. How much "money" needs to be "there" for a "major push" in League one? League frigging one. We're already the biggest spenders and the most expensive squad in the division by a country mile and now you're demanding more money spent for a "major push". Like a "major push" isn't already f u cking happening, we've got Million pound players in the team and said no to multi million pound advances for at least one of our players recently. How much more money? How much more "major push"? This kind of spend-spend-spend nonsense was the kind of thing you used to rail against when you had your head up Lowe's backside. Your feeble attempts to find a stick to beat the current regime with is pathetic. Game, Set & Match to Mr. Fry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 Game, Set & Match to Mr. Fry... Indeed is true. Although i dont agree with your constant bleating for new signings during every transfer window, i would wager the the total spending of all the teams currently above us since we have been in league one is less than we spent on Lambert and Fonte. Yet we need to spend more some will say, How much more is it going to take? I have defend the team for most of this season as you well know but Wallsall was the time my patience snapped with this side. For some it is not registering how poor this result was, it's not registering that our season is going down the sh*tter because the self titled best side in league one and title challengers dont have the arseh*le to bat down teams that dare to stand up to them. How much more do we need to spend? How many more "i know we were sh*t last night but we'll be better next game" rallying calls from the players do we need? How many more "one of those nights" are we going to have? The title has as good as gone anyone that thinks we will catch Brighton is dreaming, automatic promotion is looking increasingly unlikely and i really dont believe the team has it in them to go up via the play offs, tuesday night was proof of that. The problem is, most of our fans seem to buy the excuses, seem to accept the performance and dismiss it with the usual "we lost a game, it happens" Sorry but losing 4 out of 10 games against teams fighting relegation is totally inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 The hypocrite strikes back. Your favourite pompous patronising routine used to be "money doesn't mean anything, money doesn't deliver success". Your usual pompous arse routine about money being meaningless when your boyfriend the pi ss ant Burley was at the helm. How much "money" needs to be "there" for a "major push" in League one? League frigging one. We're already the biggest spenders and the most expensive squad in the division by a country mile and now you're demanding more money spent for a "major push". Like a "major push" isn't already f u cking happening, we've got Million pound players in the team and said no to multi million pound advances for at least one of our players recently. How much more money? How much more "major push"? This kind of spend-spend-spend nonsense was the kind of thing you used to rail against when you had your head up Lowe's backside. Your feeble attempts to find a stick to beat the current regime with is pathetic. How about another forum for *****-fighting? Sort it out you girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 Indeed is true. Although i dont agree with your constant bleating for new signings during every transfer window, i would wager the the total spending of all the teams currently above us since we have been in league one is less than we spent on Lambert and Fonte. Yet we need to spend more some will say, How much more is it going to take? I have defend the team for most of this season as you well know but Wallsall was the time my patience snapped with this side. For some it is not registering how poor this result was, it's not registering that our season is going down the sh*tter because the self titled best side in league one and title challengers dont have the arseh*le to bat down teams that dare to stand up to them. How much more do we need to spend? How many more "i know we were sh*t last night but we'll be better next game" rallying calls from the players do we need? How many more "one of those nights" are we going to have? The title has as good as gone anyone that thinks we will catch Brighton is dreaming, automatic promotion is looking increasingly unlikely and i really dont believe the team has it in them to go up via the play offs, tuesday night was proof of that. The problem is, most of our fans seem to buy the excuses, seem to accept the performance and dismiss it with the usual "we lost a game, it happens" Sorry but losing 4 out of 10 games against teams fighting relegation is totally inexcusable. Been expressing the same sentiment for a few years now mate, and been roundly dimissed and ridiculed for my trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 The problem is, most of our fans seem to buy the excuses, seem to accept the performance and dismiss it with the usual "we lost a game, it happens" Sorry but losing 4 out of 10 games against teams fighting relegation is totally inexcusable. This seasons requirement is promotion. Anything less isn't good enough. We are currently in a very good position to achieve 2nd place so long as we do not lose at Bournemouth. For now i'm prepared to stick with the team and Adkins because I do believe we have it in us to go on a winning streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 4 March, 2011 Share Posted 4 March, 2011 i would rather not score and draw 0-0 than lose 2-1 if i had to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Game, Set & Match to Mr. Fry...I thought you also liked to see the odd transfer in every window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Indeed is true. Although i dont agree with your constant bleating for new signings during every transfer window, i would wager the the total spending of all the teams currently above us since we have been in league one is less than we spent on Lambert and Fonte. Yet we need to spend more some will say, How much more is it going to take? I have defend the team for most of this season as you well know but Wallsall was the time my patience snapped with this side. For some it is not registering how poor this result was, it's not registering that our season is going down the sh*tter because the self titled best side in league one and title challengers dont have the arseh*le to bat down teams that dare to stand up to them. How much more do we need to spend? How many more "i know we were sh*t last night but we'll be better next game" rallying calls from the players do we need? How many more "one of those nights" are we going to have? The title has as good as gone anyone that thinks we will catch Brighton is dreaming, automatic promotion is looking increasingly unlikely and i really dont believe the team has it in them to go up via the play offs, tuesday night was proof of that. The problem is, most of our fans seem to buy the excuses, seem to accept the performance and dismiss it with the usual "we lost a game, it happens" Sorry but losing 4 out of 10 games against teams fighting relegation is totally inexcusable. kinell did Tuesday's defeat hurt you. I think the whole forum now understands exactly where you stand and how you feel. I mean you've posted this same thing about 35 times since Tuesday night. You thought we were good enough, now you don't and you are not happy about that. Don't worry if we don't go up we will all remember that you said that would be the case on March 1st. I'm niot sure why you bother though cos you new posting partner said as much months before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 we need someone who runs at defenders and puts the fear of God in them That for me is the difference from last season. Waigo and Antonio offered something different when they came off the bench, that was our plan B. This year we don't have those kind of plan B players that can change a game when they come on. I'm hoping Forte is our ace up our sleeve because if not then playoffs is the best we can hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 No goals eh? This is the same basic team that went on a run at the end of December with the following results 4-1 4-0 3-1 2-0 6-0 up until 11th January. Perhaps a more accurate question would be to simply ask the question What has happened since 11th January to turn a run of 19 for and 2 against into a run that became 0-0 0-2 1-2 2-1 4-4 1-0 0-0 up to the Swindon game ie 8 for and 9 against. FFS it is the middle of MARCH, for those who have never bothered to read FIFA's rules, there is a transfer window that STOPS us from selling the entire first team and buying in new players. Adkins was good enough in December to go on a run and score goals for fun but now is not up to the job. Something happened. Was it injury? Was it loss of form of one or two players? Answer THAT question and we can get a loan player in OR understand what is going on. But to sit and rant that the sky is falling and we are doomed and need a new team. OK good point, suggest you go off on vacation until June when the window opens again otherwise this is what we have, there seems to be a problem, it needs to be solved. Sack Adkins? Jeez, he was doing fine 6 weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Dale Jennings of Tranmere, would have been my signing in January.. The winger direct forward with lots of speed.. I would be good at spending the money we have not got... WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Sack Adkins? Jeez, he was doing fine 6 weeks ago We live in a throw-away society nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 kinell did Tuesday's defeat hurt you. I think the whole forum now understands exactly where you stand and how you feel. I mean you've posted this same thing about 35 times since Tuesday night. You thought we were good enough, now you don't and you are not happy about that. Don't worry if we don't go up we will all remember that you said that would be the case on March 1st. I'm niot sure why you bother though cos you new posting partner said as much months before. It did hurt, because it emphasised what is wrong with this team. If things dont go our way and we get an early goal and can steamroller a side we panic, resort to long balls and percentage football and lack the fight and guile to impose ourselves on teams that dont roll over for us. A poster on the UI site called us flat track bullies, which is a pretty spot on description. If anyone seriously thinks this team is living up to it's expectations and ability then they are mental. I'm getting bored and sick of the excuses, tuesday wasn't "one of those nights" when we dont get the luck, when we didn't get the early goal the same thing happened, which has happened every time this season. Up until a month or so ago i expected automatic promotion, even expected us to catch Brighton, but tuesday nights performance the reality hit home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 alpine_saint has kidnapped Turkish and has got him imprisoned in a dungeon at the Berghoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Great result at Colchester today but still think we need to bring in a loan striker as Connelly never seems to be fit and Guly is injured and has lost some of his form recently since getting his contract.Can we get hold of a good enough loan to give us a boost and some options up front?Think this could be crucial to us getting automatic promotion. If Morgan is ruled out for the season we could do with another central midfielder aswell as we have failed to score in too many games this season and need some creativity from midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 On the plus side, we have conceded the least at home in the division.. and the second least overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Also on the plus side we're still the fourth biggest scorers in the division with the second best goal difference. But hey, we've got some chronic goalscoring deficency, haven't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 March, 2011 Share Posted 5 March, 2011 Adkins is a terrible manager. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 According to the Echo Pardew's team only failed to score in something like 6 out of 40 odd games. This season we have failed to score in over one third of our games. Needs to be remedied PDQ methinks. I think you are a tad mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 Why does there have to be an agenda Alpine? The simple fact is that we had a good season last year and many of us thought that this season would be stronger. By that I mean beating teams like Walsall away. Do you think we have progressed or just stayed at the same level? For me I was pleased that we kept our better players in January but very disappointed in the other players we brought in. I am not sure if the money is there for a major push to get out of the division but if we don't do it this year it will be harder next year because I can't see our brighter stars staying on much longer in League 1. Do you think we will go up? Right now I wouldn't put my mortgage on it. Well soggy, we failed to score at home to Oldham and away to Colchester last season........................despite being so brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 well soggy, we failed to score at home to oldham and away to colchester last season fail try again - it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 Well soggy, we failed to score at home to Oldham and away to Colchester last season........................despite being so brilliant Whilst it didnt change anything, Rickie scored a penalty last min at Colchester last season. We lost and no one could really see the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 March, 2011 Share Posted 6 March, 2011 (edited) No they weren't, Wilkins lost 3 games if you include MK Dons,Pardew 1 and the other 5 are down to the current incumbent. to be precise we have lost 5 league games under NA, and had 4 goal-less draws, (3 of which were home games, so you can make your own judgment on those performances). of the aforementioned " goalless games " ..One was 0-1 v. Plymouth(H), and later a run of 4 goal-less games after Pardew was sacked - but before Adkins was appointed. Can't really blame him for all of those games - can we? **At present we are the fourth highest goalscorers in L1 and have the second best GD. Edited 6 March, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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