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http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2344084,00.html

 

For those who can't be arsed to read it:

 

(Paraphrasing) "Games like this are why we play."

 

"Well up for the game, Very important match."

 

"Oh, and well done to Brighton, even if they are a bunch of Whinging diving (unts who only won the divsion by falling over in the box and time wasting. But Congrats to them."

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That is the best interview that I have ever read from Atkins....................So much better than the usual 'in the building' nonsense. I love the fact that he is basically saying you are a bunch of cheating tossers & that however good you think you are Poyet - I have done it with S****horpe!

Fan-Bloody-Tastic Nigel!!!

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What is obvious from most of the comments on there is that not many or any of them were at SMS earlier in the season as they were a disgrace. Kicking out off the ball, waving cards, body checks, nasty in the ref's face & then the shocking penalty they got....................................

Also loved the comments about us being the same size as Blackpool....................

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They do seem to read far too much into Adkins comments and can't accept the amount of times he congratulates Brighton for winning League 1, congratulating Poyet and the squad. Of course Adkins is not going to concede much else because his job is to motivate the Southampton team to finish second in the league.

 

However, as one Brighton fan posted on here, it is only a few deluded Brighton fans who are fixated with hating Saints which I think is sad. I wonder if they hate Bournemouth just as much and will hate Poopy with equal measure.

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all season Brighton have got away with cheating by using the ballboys to speed up and slow down play when it suits them

 

My Daggers supporting friend said that all the ball boys were stood down the moment Brighton went 4-3 up in their game against them.

 

Gamesmanship? Yes. Legal? I guess so. In the spirit of the game? Hmmm....

 

Still, if you can get away with it fair play to Brighton for maximising their opportunities.

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My Daggers supporting friend said that all the ball boys were stood down the moment Brighton went 4-3 up in their game against them.

 

Gamesmanship? Yes. Legal? I guess so. In the spirit of the game? Hmmm....

 

Still, if you can get away with it fair play to Brighton for maximising their opportunities.

 

I thought this was against the rules? Isn't that why the "we have FA permission to use the multiball system" stuff came into play - you either use it for the whole match or not at all? I thought it was aimed at stopping the above happening or, and I seem to remember Wolves doing this to us at Molineux a few seasons back, clubs only having ball boys in the half they're attacking?

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I thought this was against the rules? Isn't that why the "we have FA permission to use the multiball system" stuff came into play - you either use it for the whole match or not at all? I thought it was aimed at stopping the above happening or, and I seem to remember Wolves doing this to us at Molineux a few seasons back, clubs only having ball boys in the half they're attacking?

 

Perhaps someone should get onto the FA/football league sharpish then and get them to review the Daggers game (for one).

 

I don't suppose there's a 10 point penalty on offer for this kind of 'cheating' is there...? ;-)

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Typical gooble-de-gook from Adders. Excuses time now, we didn't win the league as Mr Cortese wanted... watch this space

 

Brighton only win by cheating??? Do me a favour!

 

Remember he was going to win this league and we'd catch Brighton? "Plenty of games left, plenty of twists and turns" No, I thought not but Mr Cortese will remember.

 

This is called Grade 1 Rrse covering - but my guess is its much too late, the P45 is already signed and sealed in a brown envelope and awaiting delivery.

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Typical gooble-de-gook from Adders. Excuses time now, we didn't win the league as Mr Cortese wanted... watch this space

 

Brighton only win by cheating??? Do me a favour!

 

Remember he was going to win this league and we'd catch Brighton? "Plenty of games left, plenty of twists and turns" No, I thought not but Mr Cortese will remember.

 

This is called Grade 1 Rrse covering - but my guess is its much too late, the P45 is already signed and sealed in a brown envelope and awaiting delivery.

 

Oh yeah, sacking Adkins would be a real smart move! I'm sure Cortese would be thinking differently if we were second in the league or something...

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Typical gooble-de-gook from Adders. Excuses time now, we didn't win the league as Mr Cortese wanted... watch this space

 

Brighton only win by cheating??? Do me a favour!

 

Remember he was going to win this league and we'd catch Brighton? "Plenty of games left, plenty of twists and turns" No, I

 

thought not but Mr Cortese will remember.

 

This is called Grade 1 Rrse covering - but my guess is its much too late, the P45 is already signed and sealed in a brown envelope

and awaiting delivery.

 

You really do come across as a bitter turd

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Typical gooble-de-gook from Adders. Excuses time now, we didn't win the league as Mr Cortese wanted... watch this space

 

Brighton only win by cheating??? Do me a favour!

 

Remember he was going to win this league and we'd catch Brighton? "Plenty of games left, plenty of twists and turns" No, I thought not but Mr Cortese will remember.

 

This is called Grade 1 Rrse covering - but my guess is its much too late, the P45 is already signed and sealed in a brown envelope and awaiting delivery.

 

How are Arsenal doing you senile old c**k?

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Typical gooble-de-gook from Adders. Excuses time now, we didn't win the league as Mr Cortese wanted... watch this space

 

Brighton only win by cheating??? Do me a favour!

 

Remember he was going to win this league and we'd catch Brighton? "Plenty of games left, plenty of twists and turns" No, I thought not but Mr Cortese will remember.

 

This is called Grade 1 Rrse covering - but my guess is its much too late, the P45 is already signed and sealed in a brown envelope and awaiting delivery.

 

The only typical part of this is the predictability of your response...you must lead a sad little life to let this get to you so badly.

 

Never mind

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This is called Grade 1 Rrse covering - but my guess is its much too late, the P45 is already signed and sealed in a brown envelope and awaiting delivery.

 

Yeah of course, thats why "Mr Cortese' backs Adkins in his recent interview. He knows how hard it is at times to get the wins against these teams that raise their game.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/8467599/Southampton-executive-chairman-Nicola-Cortese-confident-Saints-are-marching-back-towards-Premier-League.html

 

When we play some of the teams, for them it is like playing a Premier League side and it’s difficult.Nigel [Adkins, the manager] keeps on saying every team who play us in this division, it’s their cup game.

"Teams who play in a cup game style or motivation are very unpredictable. That’s what we need to accept. Everything can happen in the play-offs. We will try everything to avoid that.”

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I thought this was against the rules? Isn't that why the "we have FA permission to use the multiball system" stuff came into play - you either use it for the whole match or not at all?

 

Thats true, it is, but who is going to stop it ? The referee ?

Remember the refs at this level barely understand what constitutes a foul or an offside, they aren't ever going to come to terms with subtle little things like the multiball system :-)

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Thats true, it is, but who is going to stop it ? The referee ?

Remember the refs at this level barely understand what constitutes a foul or an offside, they aren't ever going to come to terms with subtle little things like the multiball system :-)

 

 

I remember a while ago the ref stopped the multiball system halfway through the game in one of our matches because it was being used unfairly.

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Superb piece. Gives Brighton the pre-requesite backhanded slap for their acheivement, but calls them a bunch of dirty cheating c**ts at the same time.

 

Love it. Reckon this pieces indicates he should have the lads fired up too.

 

 

Couldn't agree more. As players they can sense something that not many of them will have a chance to achieve too often as well.

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They really do seem more obsessed with him than the fact they've won the title... If nothing else it shows the mind-games worked.

 

Not really. I don't think Adkins has been playing mind games to wind-up the fans. Surely mind games are about having an affect on the opposition players, not the fans? If anything, they've backfired.

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I think this is dumb from Adkins. I would use every psychological edge going to get a result at Brighton and i don't believe this is the way to go about it. I would ensure control over any statement that went out in regards to Brighton from anyone involved with the club, deliberately keeping things as low key as possible. After seeing a couple of the Brighton players in the week it is obvious that the celebrations are having an effect. The last thing I would want to do is to give them a poke with a stick to prime them up for Saturday, just nothing to be gained from that approach. I wouldn't give them a guard of honour but rightly praise them for their achievements this season.

 

If any of our players need geeing up for this game they should not be in football, going to the league winners to cement an automatic place. If our players have anything about them, the biggest problem should be keeping a lid on the agression such you ensure you stay on the pitch. Do everything you can on the pitch to put them out of their normal stroll, but don't get sent off. We are going into this game with a loss of players and form that is not to our advantage, we just have to hope Brighton are not fully awake for this one.

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I think this is dumb from Adkins. I would use every psychological edge going to get a result at Brighton and i don't believe this is the way to go about it. I would ensure control over any statement that went out in regards to Brighton from anyone involved with the club, deliberately keeping things as low key as possible. After seeing a couple of the Brighton players in the week it is obvious that the celebrations are having an effect. The last thing I would want to do is to give them a poke with a stick to prime them up for Saturday, just nothing to be gained from that approach. I wouldn't give them a guard of honour but rightly praise them for their achievements this season.

 

If any of our players need geeing up for this game they should not be in football, going to the league winners to cement an automatic place. If our players have anything about them, the biggest problem should be keeping a lid on the agression such you ensure you stay on the pitch. Do everything you can on the pitch to put them out of their normal stroll, but don't get sent off. We are going into this game with a loss of players and form that is not to our advantage, we just have to hope Brighton are not fully awake for this one.

 

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Nigel - This Is Why We Play

Posted on: Thu 21 Apr 2011

 

Nigel Adkins says the position Saints are in at this stage of the season is what makes football so special.

 

The gaffer has promotion in his team's sights, and the five remaining games of the campaign are what his players are in the game for.

 

"It's an exciting time of the season and we are embracing the games that are coming up," he told Saints Player.

 

"It's so exciting. This is what you are in football for, experiences like this! I would rather be at this end of the division than at the bottom end of the division because we are trying to win things and get to the next level.

 

"We are constantly winning games of football and these are exciting times.

 

"The object is that we need to get this magnificent football club to the next level, the infrastructure is in place to do that.

 

"When I came here we were 22nd in the division, I'm not sure how many points we were behind Brighton at the time but we needed to move this club forward and I think we have done that. We have won games consistently and everyone has a smile on their face at this football club, we are enjoying what is going on and we are in a position where we have five games to go."

 

A trip to Champions Brighton represents a top two battle, something Adkins knows all about from his previous promotion campaigns.

 

"They have done great, congratulations to Brighton because they have got themselves champions a few games before the end of the season and deservedly so. They have been consistent throughout the course of the season and you have to do that if you want to be champions, so congratulations to Gus and the players.

 

"I've been there with S****horpe, when we won the division by six points, and I know that you still have to work hard. You may have won it and the celebrations may still go on, but the players know that they have to go out and play well, and I'm sure Brighton will be very professional in that regard.

 

"We expect a tough game, and it will be a great atmosphere. I said to the supporters at S****horpe when we won the division that they had a chance to go out and sing 'we are the champions' - the Brighton fans have had to wait a long time to get to their new stadium and they have got promoted now so they should go out and enjoy everything that is going on.

 

"I wanted to win the division, you can come up with things that try and give you that opportunity to do that, in the same way that Gus has done, but they have done it and congratulations to them, enjoy it and look forward to next season."

 

The game itself has all the makings of a classic encounter, although the manager is aware of the variables that the home side have used to their advantage throughout the season, as they did in the reverse fixture at St. Mary's in November.

 

"We will go to Brighton at the weekend and we know that the ballboys will be existent and then non-existent because they have done it all season and everyone has complained about it. You just have to get on with it because that is football, and that's life.

 

"They will try and jump up and down but that might just be the foreign mentality and they tried to get Morgan Schneiderlin booked at our place by doing just that. They have done it all season and plenty of managers have complained about it but you just have to get on with it, that's life.

 

"You can't get wound up by it. They have had more penalties that any other team in the division, but as I say, it is about winning games of football and they have gone and won. Whatever way you try and do it, there are different ways to skin a cat and there are different ways to win a game of football, and they have had that winning mentality this season.

 

"I said it weeks ago that there are plenty of twists and turns to come, it is about keeping calm and having a level head and just chipping away. That's what we had to do against Bristol Rovers, it can be difficult because some people might think that we should go and beat them by 10 because they are at the bottom of the table, but that doesn't happen in English football!"

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Got one over on Poyet ? That requires an explanation....

 

Noone cares what gus says or thinks. Well do e for coming top of the table but it's not that big a deal compared to getting promoted and building on it.

 

Who in all seriousness has the brighter future and who will care who came first or second. You get remembered cos people notice you. Saints are a bigger brand thanbrighton and that will never change

 

Even poyet is bigger than Brighton and that is not the way to be. Adkins has created a team on a team bus and he is a genius.

 

 

I reckon that we are now proper rivals andhope we have many more derbies in years to come but doubt it be that way as Brighton won't keep up.

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Noone cares what gus says or thinks. Well do e for coming top of the table but it's not that big a deal compared to getting promoted and building on it.

 

Who in all seriousness has the brighter future and who will care who came first or second. You get remembered cos people notice you. Saints are a bigger brand thanbrighton and that will never change

 

Even poyet is bigger than Brighton and that is not the way to be. Adkins has created a team on a team bus and he is a genius.

 

 

I reckon that we are now proper rivals andhope we have many more derbies in years to come but doubt it be that way as Brighton won't keep up.

 

Ive got a tenner on gus jumping ship for spurs when r*dkn**p gets the england job. I really dont think he'll stick it out at brighton once he gets a prem offer.

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I think this is dumb from Adkins. I would use every psychological edge going to get a result at Brighton and i don't believe this is the way to go about it. I would ensure control over any statement that went out in regards to Brighton from anyone involved with the club, deliberately keeping things as low key as possible. After seeing a couple of the Brighton players in the week it is obvious that the celebrations are having an effect. The last thing I would want to do is to give them a poke with a stick to prime them up for Saturday, just nothing to be gained from that approach. I wouldn't give them a guard of honour but rightly praise them for their achievements this season.

 

If any of our players need geeing up for this game they should not be in football, going to the league winners to cement an automatic place. If our players have anything about them, the biggest problem should be keeping a lid on the agression such you ensure you stay on the pitch. Do everything you can on the pitch to put them out of their normal stroll, but don't get sent off. We are going into this game with a loss of players and form that is not to our advantage, we just have to hope Brighton are not fully awake for this one.

 

Not so sure about Adkins is dumb, but I do wish we had given them a goh. It would have taken the sting out of their tail a bit, whereas now they are still looking to prove a point. To be honest, I thought the article was fair, certainly gave enough praise/congratulations to Poyet and the team but also doesn't fawn to them. The Northstandchat thread isn't as vitriolic as I thought it would be either, I quite like Brighton tbh and hope they do well next season. Interesting to hear that Poyet and Adkins get on quite well.

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Have to say that I view it as an interview of two halves.

 

The first part where he talks about how exciting this finish is (even if it's making me nervous), how we've progressed and how everyone is smiling is really positive and I like it. I also think the part where he is magnanimous in his praise for Brighton is good and starts to show that you can finish second (hopefully!!!) with good grace. If he had stopped there, then that would have been brilliant.

 

However, his little snide digs at the way Brighton play are totally unnecessary and as others have pointed out, could well be counter productive. We all saw how Brighton played when they were up here, we have seen and heard about how they bend the rules to their advantage and how at times they can come across as somewhat unsporting, but I just don't want our manager to be saying that in the press. It doesn't sit well with me, is somewhat disparaging and he should do his talking on the pitch come Saturday (4 points off of the Champions would be a decent retort). Additionally, I would worry that it might just fire up the opposition somewhat.

 

The guard of honour thing is a total load of ****** however, and I totally support him and others who have played it down. If there was nothing to play for and the game was inconsequential, then I would be OK to support it (even then it's a bit small time and I'm unsure what the protocol is?? Is it every divisional winner down to Southampton Junior 9??? Do they now have one before every game until the end of the season??? As Champions do they get one before every game next season??? How much more forced adulation does any team want, winning the title should be enough to be able to strut your stuff???? When did these start to become the norm????), but anyone with a bit of nous realises how important this game is and we shouldn't be doing anythign to interfere with its preparation. Even the slightest psychological advantage (and I think bigging up your opponents before the game will have an impact) might be detrimental, so keep it calm and professional.

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I think this is dumb from Adkins. I would use every psychological edge going to get a result at Brighton and i don't believe this is the way to go about it. I would ensure control over any statement that went out in regards to Brighton from anyone involved with the club, deliberately keeping things as low key as possible. After seeing a couple of the Brighton players in the week it is obvious that the celebrations are having an effect. The last thing I would want to do is to give them a poke with a stick to prime them up for Saturday, just nothing to be gained from that approach. I wouldn't give them a guard of honour but rightly praise them for their achievements this season.

 

If any of our players need geeing up for this game they should not be in football, going to the league winners to cement an automatic place. If our players have anything about them, the biggest problem should be keeping a lid on the agression such you ensure you stay on the pitch. Do everything you can on the pitch to put them out of their normal stroll, but don't get sent off. We are going into this game with a loss of players and form that is not to our advantage, we just have to hope Brighton are not fully awake for this one.

I really cant buy into that another team will have some sort of advantage by what a manager says when they have already pretty much finished their season...anything they do now is just a bonus

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Noone cares what gus says or thinks. Well do e for coming top of the table but it's not that big a deal compared to getting promoted and building on it.

 

Who in all seriousness has the brighter future and who will care who came first or second. You get remembered cos people notice you. Saints are a bigger brand thanbrighton and that will never change

 

Even poyet is bigger than Brighton and that is not the way to be. Adkins has created a team on a team bus and he is a genius.

 

 

If you look at some of the teams who have done well in the PL on smaller gates than bha would get in the PL, and with a much less wealthy catchment area, i suggest that its entirely possible that they have a really bright future.They could well go on to become an established mid table PL club.

however, they still have lots to do, and as many a club has seen, the loss of a quality manager can be hard to overcome.

 

with a supportive owner, I expect to see them well up the league next season.

If they do reach the pL, their fans need to be ready for the downside ....ludicrous ticket prices, matches at stupid times, and in their case I imagine, celebrity fans down from london,taking all the best seats, pretending that they were there on the cold nights in exile at gillingham etc .

 

 

Anyway, before all that, lets just hope for a couple of feisty encounters next season....!

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I understand the worries but I do wonder if Nigels's trying to get Brighton overly fired up.

 

The fact is they were going to be up for this regardless of what Adkins said so maybe he's just trying to tip them over the edge.

 

There is a point at which being fired up stops being productive and starts being a hinderance. The only thing I can think is that Adkins is trying to get the Brighton players to that point.

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