Gemmel Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 Lasted 11 Minutes. As much as I hate to think it, the time has come for him to retire. http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/3892005.Svensson_lasts_just_11_minutes_for_reserves/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 its an achilles injury though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 If it's not one thing..... Shame, but hardly unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 i was gona say it might not be his knee. i bet he is mighty P'ssed off. he just wants to get back into regular games but his body is having trouble gettin up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 it was ridiculous people pinning their hopes on him at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 He should just hang up his boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 it was ridiculous people pinning their hopes on him at the start of the season Totally agree....can't believe people even thought he stood a chance. Very much a case of wishful thinking for many I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 This is another Marian situation, If I was Killer i'd quit for the good of my body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 nothing wrong with hoping - relying on is different. why shouldn't people on here think he had a chance when he and the Drs thought he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 It's all very sad , MS is on a one year contract with an option to extend , I'd be very surprised if the club took up that option . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 Stood a chance, correct me if i am wrong but he came back from injury and helped keep us a clean sheet away to derby amongst other appearences. So everyone that thought he stood a chance were correct. Perhaps my wording was wrong....I should have made more emphasis on the relying on him. But there was an unrealistic hope which people were setting themselves up for a disappointment....as someone else said, he should retire for the good of his own body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 nothing wrong with hoping - relying on is different. why shouldn't people on here think he had a chance when he and the Drs thought he did? I don't particularly think it was the fans that were relying on Killer returning. Most of us hoped but held reservations. It was the management that was relying on it, probably signing Perry as a stopgap in favour of Lucketti because they had pinned there hopes on already having the big, physical, experienced centrehalf, available on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 It wasn't the fans who made him captain was it, so clearly the Saints management and medical teams were relatively confident that he was fit enough. Anyway, let's not write him off just yet, although of course plenty of the posters on here love a good, old-fashioned knee-jerk reaction..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 I don't think he will play much more for us its a real shame 'cause he is a great guy maybe could help out with the defending, may coach the defence or something legend tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 Achilles injury to his other leg. Not available for Saturday due to visit to achilles specialist. Don't think this will affect his availability too much, looks like he is just about ready for return if needed, indeed suggestion is that he would have been included for Reading if he had not been ill. I wouldn't write Killer off just yet. Suspect he may still prove useful when Pearce and Cork return to their clubs after Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 It wasn't the fans who made him captain was it, so clearly the Saints management and medical teams were relatively confident that he was fit enough. Anyway, let's not write him off just yet, although of course plenty of the posters on here love a good, old-fashioned knee-jerk reaction..... 4 and a half years isn't really knee jerk as such is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 4 and a half years isn't really knee jerk as such is it. Last time I checked my achiles wasn't in the same place as my knee, but maybe Killer's is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 It's been the clubs inability to move on where Svensson is concerned that has seen our downfall. Fortunately, this season we don't seen to have put all our eggs in one basket and should Svensson be available it would be an additional bonus. I tend to agree that it's time for him to call it a day rather than him end up a cripple for the remainder of his life. Yet, the guy's got magnificent willpower and somehow he's determined to get one last final crack at the whip. Who knows, he may be studying for his coaching badges whilst unable to play, with long term plans of remaining at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 November, 2008 Share Posted 26 November, 2008 Achilles injury to his other leg. Not available for Saturday due to visit to achilles specialist. Don't think this will affect his availability too much, looks like he is just about ready for return if needed, indeed suggestion is that he would have been included for Reading if he had not been ill. I wouldn't write Killer off just yet. Suspect he may still prove useful when Pearce and Cork return to their clubs after Christmas. Don't think Chelsea will want Cork back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 he seems to be making light of it with his comments on OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 I don't particularly think it was the fans that were relying on Killer returning. Most of us hoped but held reservations. It was the management that was relying on it, probably signing Perry as a stopgap in favour of Lucketti because they had pinned there hopes on already having the big, physical, experienced centrehalf, available on the cheap. I think we signed Perry and not Lucketti because one was playing for a league one team in administration and the other was playing for a team which had been in the Prem a year before. Wages were a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 Killer had hamstring trouble last week so why risk him..another 4-6 weeks out. In fairness to him fair play for playing again against all the odds but do the gracious thing and put yourself and your fans out of any more misery and retire gracefully. As much as you were a great player for us it is obvious that it is one step forward and 3 back now due to injury. Do you want to be crippled for the rest of your life for the sake of a few games? you have a young family so it's doubtful that you would want to be so give up now and hold your head high for beating the odds of ever returning to the first team. Remain a club hero - no one will think ill of you. Good Luck for your future The Fat Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 It's been the clubs inability to move on where Svensson is concerned that has seen our downfall. Fortunately, this season we don't seen to have put all our eggs in one basket and should Svensson be available it would be an additional bonus. I tend to agree that it's time for him to call it a day rather than him end up a cripple for the remainder of his life. Yet, the guy's got magnificent willpower and somehow he's determined to get one last final crack at the whip. Who knows, he may be studying for his coaching badges whilst unable to play, with long term plans of remaining at St Mary's. Art is right. We need to keep Svensson but as a coach, not a first choice player. It's ridiculous to expect other central defenders to feel settled if they think that Svensson is in the background as a preferred player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 I think we signed Perry and not Lucketti because one was playing for a league one team in administration and the other was playing for a team which had been in the Prem a year before. Wages were a big factor. I agree with that but if anything last season taught us, is that we needed a big f'off centre half, which was pretty effectively cured when Lucketti was in the team. The club were rediculously optimistic that the second (or third) coming of Killer, would cure the problem and therefore save them having to sign somebody for that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 I agree with that but if anything last season taught us, is that we needed a big f'off centre half, which was pretty effectively cured when Lucketti was in the team. The club were rediculously optimistic that the second (or third) coming of Killer, would cure the problem and therefore save them having to sign somebody for that position.you are probably right but when the new board took over they were faced with the loss making situation , surely it was sense to reason that why pay out money we didnt have when we had a player who would play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 you are probably right but when the new board took over they were faced with the loss making situation , surely it was sense to reason that why pay out money we didnt have when we had a player who would play. One that was very suspect injury wise from the start, make that 2 if you add Thomas. Like most recent seasons, we seem to have an abundance of midfield players bought or loaned in, but remain thread bare in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 One that was very suspect injury wise from the start, make that 2 if you add Thomas. Like most recent seasons, we seem to have an abundance of midfield players bought or loaned in, but remain thread bare in defence.that is fair, but at the time again the medical people told us he would be ok.We only have so much to sprinkle on the squad, but I do agree we have needed a big ugly c/b since MS first got injured.That is the main reason we got relegated as we never properly replaced Killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivvy1664 Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 side issue if wages where why we didnt sign Lucketti how come he is playing for huddersfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 One that was very suspect injury wise from the start, make that 2 if you add Thomas. Like most recent seasons, we seem to have an abundance of midfield players bought or loaned in, but remain thread bare in defence. We have to CB's in on loan so I'm not sure that is totally fair. With Pearce, Perry, Lancashire and Cork I don't think we're short in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 We have to CB's in on loan so I'm not sure that is totally fair. With Pearce, Perry, Lancashire and Cork I don't think we're short in that area. We have had to get Pearce in because of the Svensson situation and he seems to have been doing a resonable job (although not played in the last 2 games). I don't think we would have loaned if he had remained fit and my argument is that the club should of acted in the close season to make sure we had decent cover from first kick off. As for Perry, Lancashire and Cork being adequate cover. Perry is not going to be able to play week in week out, especially if we are playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday. Lancashire is going to be in and out because at this stage of his career, he lacks consistency (oh yes, and has so far been suspended for 5 games and "off the field" for part of 2). And Cork half of the time is covering at right back and in any case is wasted in the back 4 IMO, because he is better as a holding MF player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 Will be interesting to see what happens to Cork and Pearce in January, we will be in a whole load of trouble if they both go back to their clubs. Skcael - Lancashire - Perry - James. That's back four would be a disaster, especially when our only real cover is Mills, Wotton and two injured centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 side issue if wages where why we didnt sign Lucketti how come he is playing for huddersfield? Lucketti's family won't move from Bury. I believe he commuted when he was at Sheffield. It would've been a helluva commute from Bury to Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 I don't particularly think it was the fans that were relying on Killer returning. Most of us hoped but held reservations. It was the management that was relying on it, probably signing Perry as a stopgap in favour of Lucketti because they had pinned there hopes on already having the big, physical, experienced centrehalf, available on the cheap. Lucetti was 36 (now 37), and wanted a two year deal. Anyone that watched him closely last season will have seen that he was well past his best (which was good I might add). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 nothing wrong with hoping - relying on is different. why shouldn't people on here think he had a chance when he and the Drs thought he did? Apology accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 not going to bite! but out of courtesy I will promise to apologise openly to you - should you ever get anything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 Let's hope that he doesn't end up for life with a dodgy leg. Michael it is time to confront reality. Why torture yourself physically and mentally? You have nothing to prove to yourself or us. We will be eternally grateful for the good days you gave us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 Why don't we all just wait and see, we have nearly 6 months of the season and at least 28 matches still to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 November, 2008 Share Posted 27 November, 2008 We worry about his future health, but at the same time we MUST respect his wishes and his ambition. Because that is what people do. So I wish him a speedy recovery and all power to whatever it is that his head, heart and suirgeons say he can do. It is HIS choice, not ours. We love him and worry about him but who the h*ll are we to tell him what to do. Anyone of us would be up in arms being told what to do to so you just do what you and your team believe is right Michael. And I pray that when I FINALLY get across I get to see him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 28 November, 2008 Share Posted 28 November, 2008 Sadly Killer, the brilliant defender who was the bedrock of Strachan's 5star best saints team of the last 20 years is never coming back and was never realistically going to after his first comeback failed after a few games in our first season in the championship (last match that season the 3-4 against Leeds? please confirm statto). Players such as Michael Svensson, Marian Pahars, Ronnie Ekelund - brilliant players struck down at their peak by injuries that take more than 2 years to get over, never really get over them - and deserve our utmost sympathy and, particularly in Michael's case, respect for trying so damn hard to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 28 November, 2008 Share Posted 28 November, 2008 Reminds me of MLT's last season or two. Get to a certain age, get an injury, have a layoff, then it's a succession of injuries every time you stretch yourself. What kind of contract does he have now? I bet it isn't pay-as-you-play any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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