Dig Dig Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Remember him? Just wondering if anyone else thinks he could do a job next season as CM cover or he could even be converted to a CB or RB due to his tenacity and size? Knowing Deano, he'd be chomping at the bit to have a crack at the prem with us and he's got another solid season under his belt and is a good age to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 wtf have you got dale stephens up? cant miss him that much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Deano! Not tall enough for a CB but perhaps as a cover RB he would be better than Richardson IMO. Good leader too. BTW - Its "champing" at the bit you chomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Sorry but no. Decent performer, and good captain for us in the Champ & L1. But like many others, he is not one to progress as far as the club wants to. Deserves to be playing, at best he will be a back up back up, and even then out-of-his depth. Move him on, and wish him all the best. Same category as Chaplow and Sharp for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Sorry but no. Decent performer, and good captain for us in the Champ & L1. But like many others, he is not one to progress as far as the club wants to. Deserves to be playing, at best he will be a back up back up, and even then out-of-his depth. Move him on, and wish him all the best. Same category as Chaplow and Sharp for me. Captains of successive promotions IMO don't desrve just to be "moved on" like some kind of container shipment of knock-off trainers. Cortese values achievements and IMO Deano will get a new deal, even if he is just loaned out each year. Would certainly like him to take part in pre season before nay decisions are made. He isnt in the same situation as Chaplow or Sharp - he did far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Hammond looks a bit out of shape in that photo also, bit of a belly and fat face - when was that taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2013 L1 pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Captains of successive promotions IMO don't desrve just to be "moved on" like some kind of container shipment of knock-off trainers. Cortese values achievements and IMO Deano will get a new deal, even if he is just loaned out each year. Would certainly like him to take part in pre season before nay decisions are made. He isnt in the same situation as Chaplow or Sharp - he did far more. If he isn't going to get anywhere near the first team, which he isn't, then why keep him? Surely he would rather be playing regular football? We aren't going to start picking him out of sentiment. Would be much worse to waste his career here sitting on the bench, when he can get games in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjay Sanchez Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Hammond looks a bit out of shape in that photo also, bit of a belly and fat face - when was that taken? When it was wear a Dale Stephens mask to work day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 What an odd thread all round. Loved him in L1 and done a good job last year. Not good enough for us now though sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Captains of successive promotions IMO don't desrve just to be "moved on" like some kind of container shipment of knock-off trainers. Cortese values achievements and IMO Deano will get a new deal, even if he is just loaned out each year. Would certainly like him to take part in pre season before nay decisions are made. He isnt in the same situation as Chaplow or Sharp - he did far more. what would be the point of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 could even be converted to a CB or RB due to his tenacity and size? Burley is that you? Either way I think you're aiming your sights quite astonishingly low. Hammond was a half decent Championship CM, he's not Premier League quality and he certainly isn't a centre half. We should be trying to bring in international class CBs who can take us to the next level. Forren (I have faith he will play and come good, now just isn't the time to throw him in the team) and Astori look like good targets to me. Some people need to accept that some players, no matter how good they were last year and how much dedication they have shown, aren't good enough to take us where we want to be. Chaplow falls into that bracket too, so do Frazer, Fox, Sharp, Lee and Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Burley is that you? Either way I think you're aiming your sights quite astonishingly low. Hammond was a half decent Championship CM, he's not Premier League quality and he certainly isn't a centre half. We should be trying to bring in international class CBs who can take us to the next level. Forren (I have faith he will play and come good, now just isn't the time to throw him in the team) and Astori look like good targets to me. Some people need to accept that some players, no matter how good they were last year and how much dedication they have shown, aren't good enough to take us where we want to be. Chaplow falls into that bracket too, so do Frazer, Fox, Sharp, Lee and Guly. Agree with that, have always said that Chaplow would be a decent LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 This is a joke thread right? It should have gone up on April 1st but you overslept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Agree with that, have always said that Chaplow would be a decent LB. He is light on his feet, tenacious and can drift by a man. Only think of Chaplow is he is right footed. Would certainly make a decent RB - can see little in terms of ability between Chappy and someone like Seamus Coleman at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Did the job he was brought in to do and did it well most of the time but TBH he would not cut it in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Sorry Saint Charlie...but what are you smoking?? there is no room for sentiment in football...especially not from the Don The fact Hammond was in a few promotion teams means nothing...it didn't save Adkins Hammond will be gone and rightly so...decent player but the Championship is his level...doubt Brighton would want him if they got promoted... You like many other Saints fans need to wake up...the days of signing ordinary players are over...the club is looking to go places and you don't do that by carrying deadwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Hammond is a poor mans Radja Nainggolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 I live in Brighton and surrounded by Seagulls fans - They generally cant stand him and is a bit of a scape goat with their fans - main criticism is that he is so incredibly slow and always looks for the sideways pass. Cant see him fitting into our style of play - Dont think Brighton will extend his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Sorry Saint Charlie...but what are you smoking?? there is no room for sentiment in football...especially not from the DonThe fact Hammond was in a few promotion teams means nothing...it didn't save Adkins Hammond will be gone and rightly so...decent player but the Championship is his level...doubt Brighton would want him if they got promoted... You like many other Saints fans need to wake up...the days of signing ordinary players are over...the club is looking to go places and you don't do that by carrying deadwood Sorry but this comment smacks of someone who has had their head up their ar*e for the last 3 years. Cortese has displayed absolute loyalty to the playing staff who did a good job, and Hammond undoubtedly did and will go down as one of our most successful captains ever. Jaidi has been given a new role at the club whilst Kelvin Davis recently signed a new contract despite it being obvious he will play an increasingly minimal part in the first team. If Cortese had no room for sentiment then why keep Davis, why offer Lambert a contract til age 34, why offer Hooiveld a 3 year contract when we could have terminated his loan in the summer etc. Why don't you start understanding that the players love Cortese because he shows loyalty to them, and isnt one to just cast someone aside who has done a very good, loyal job for you. Get with the times pal, and start looking at what is actually happening at the club rather than making lazy comments that you probably have taken from Alan Brazil's Sports Breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Technically not good enough for all of his tenacity and athleticism Big no from me, with a new CM we could have corky as cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 talking of supposed second string being retained but in a different position - I've always fancied Billy Sharpe in a Baresi-style sweeping role, any thoughts? Also how about bringing back Papa Waigo as a goalkeeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 talking of supposed second string being retained but in a different position - I've always fancied Billy Sharpe in a Baresi-style sweeping role, any thoughts? Also how about bringing back Papa Waigo as a goalkeeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Jaidi has been given a new role at the club whilst Kelvin Davis recently signed a new contract despite it being obvious he will play an increasingly minimal part in the first team. If Cortese had no room for sentiment then why keep Davis, why offer Lambert a contract til age 34, why offer Hooiveld a 3 year contract when we could have terminated his loan in the summer etc. Jaidi has taken up a non playing role, so that is irrelevant. Lambert probably got a new contract on account of the massive number of goals he scored and continues to score? Hooiveld was initially on loan but then signed permanently in January 2012. Davis started the season as first choice keeper, and is the clear choice at the moment for reserve keeper. Most importantly, these three players have actually played and performed in the Premier League. They are arguably all certain to feature in a match day team/bench when fit. I'm guessing that's why they got new contracts, as opposed to Cortese getting all misty eyed over what they did when we were in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Right okay, so we are going to take back a player who we have loaned to Brighton for the past year, under the impression that he is now ready to contribute in the Premiership at the right old age of 30...this is coming from the person who thinks we should sign Pugh from Bournemouth...crikey im glad you are not on the transfer board, we would be relegated by now... Sorry Saint Charlie but you speak absolute drivel....we are not going to give a new contract to a guy who we loaned out for a year to a lower division club...Davis actually played in the Prem Please find a brain cell and think before you write this rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 To both of you above: Kelvin Davis has of course played for us this season in the Prem. However, if you think that he has been given a new contract because of his performances this season then you are sadly mistaken. He has largely been awful. In addition, he had another year left anyway. His contract is a reward from Cortese for his previous displays and his loyalty and professionalism. Cortese rewards this in players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Right okay, so we are going to take back a player who we have loaned to Brighton for the past year, under the impression that he is now ready to contribute in the Premiership at the right old age of 30...this is coming from the person who thinks we should sign Pugh from Bournemouth...crikey im glad you are not on the transfer board, we would be relegated by now... Sorry Saint Charlie but you speak absolute drivel....we are not going to give a new contract to a guy who we loaned out for a year to a lower division club...Davis actually played in the Prem Please find a brain cell and think before you write this rubbish Bit out of order mate. Saint Charlie may write some stuff you don't agree with but please debate without the insults. If he didn't write his "rubbish", you would have nothing to do at 5:15 on a Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Bit out of order mate. Saint Charlie may write some stuff you don't agree with but please debate without the insults. If he didn't write his "rubbish", you would have nothing to do at 5:15 on a Thursday. Kelvin Davis rewarded for performances this season with new deal. ROFL. I know who is coming up with rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Is this a serious thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Is this a serious thread? Its trying to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Poor wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 lol at Cortese being sentimental and handing out contracts based on previous, someone will only get a contract and be rewarded for their loyalty if they have something to offer the cause not on what happend in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Beat he goes to Reading. Think the Championship is his level. He really wouldn't cut it at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Beat he goes to Reading. Think the Championship is his level. He really wouldn't cut it at this level. We will never know because Adkins decided he couldnt. He also decided Gazza was better than Boruc.... At least Sharp was given a runout vs Wigan to be assessed but Hammond wasn't. Pretty sure MP will want to take a closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 7/10 for this one, maybe would have got away with it but the Dale Stephens photo gave it away too much. Good effort though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Sorry but no. Decent performer, and good captain for us in the Champ & L1. But like many others, he is not one to progress as far as the club wants to. Deserves to be playing, at best he will be a back up back up, and even then out-of-his depth. Move him on, and wish him all the best. Same category as Chaplow and Sharp for me. agree with that...and HdidAJFU when it mattered, but if Brighton make the play-offs and the third spot, he'll struggle in the Prem. next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 agree with that...and HdidAJFU when it mattered, but if Brighton make the play-offs and the third spot, he'll struggle in the Prem. next season. Brighton? Are you absolutely sure he isn't playing for Bournemouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 We will never know because Adkins decided he couldnt. He also decided Gazza was better than Boruc.... At least Sharp was given a runout vs Wigan to be assessed but Hammond wasn't. Pretty sure MP will want to take a closer look. Sharp and Hammond at this level ? In this team ? Playing the way we do ? Are you head mental ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Great thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 He'll be gone in the summer. Bought in to do a job for us, like Jaidi, Barnard, Harding, Richardson etc - they did that job and they were succesfull at the level we bought them for. So you've got to thank them for that, but now look forward to improving and upgrading on these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Will always remember his excellent contribution during some great seasons. Not good enough for a top half Premier League team and that's what we're looking to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Maybe he could get back in the France squad if we brought him back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Or Hammond could cover Shaw at left back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Remember him? Just wondering if anyone else thinks he could do a job next season as CM cover or he could even be converted to a CB or RB due to his tenacity and size? Knowing Deano, he'd be chomping at the bit to have a crack at the prem with us and he's got another solid season under his belt and is a good age to improve. Just decided to quote this for some context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 He did an incredible job for us, but it's time for him to move on now. We should be thankful for all he did, and wish him the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Great thread Thanks pal, much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Is it 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 (edited) He is light on his feet, tenacious and can drift by a man. Only think of Chaplow is he is right footed. Would certainly make a decent RB - can see little in terms of ability between Chappy and someone like Seamus Coleman at Everton. Subtle wind up given fully away BY ridiculous comparison at end of post. Edited 18 April, 2013 by stknowle Forgot a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 Maybe he could get back in the France squad if we brought him back ? That's Schneiderlin you oaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 18 April, 2013 Share Posted 18 April, 2013 That's Schneiderlin you oaf. That's never Schneiderlin, that's Paul Wotton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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