Dalek2003 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Considering our league positions. No. The Cups are sideshows and of little value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Would anyone swap now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Yes. Said it before and say it again. Is this what I have to look forward to as a saints supporter? If mid table is success then give me relegation and promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Would anyone swap now? No. You might be feeling disappointed at the moment, but the league and our premier status is far more important. Win against Wham and we will forget about the Cup game against Slumberland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Yes. Said it before and say it again. Is this what I have to look forward to as a saints supporter? If mid table is success then give me relegation and promotion. Madness, I would settle for mid table obscurity every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2014 No. You might be feeling disappointed at the moment, but the league and our premier status is far more important. Win against Wham and we will forget about the Cup game against Slumberland. Maybe for you but I actually want to attempt win something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Would anyone swap now? Why on earth would anyone wan to swap with Sunderland.. pathetic question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Why on earth would anyone wan to swap with Sunderland.. pathetic question I would and you have not answered, they will stay up in my opinion, they are going to Wembley and they are now in the 1/4 final of the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 I would and you have not answered, they will stay up in my opinion, they are going to Wembley and they are now in the 1/4 final of the FA Cup. TBH, the Cups could cause them to do a Wigan and then I bet they would want to be in our position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Still wouldnt swap with them of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 15 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2014 TBH, the Cups could cause them to do a Wigan and then I bet they would want to be in our position. Lots of Wigan fans would not, I would not swap if I was a Wigan fan, why? They have won a Cup and have Europe to look back on, us? Its about winning things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 16 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Surely now? Final of the league cup, good chance of making the semis of the fa cup and also a good chance of staying up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Surely now? Final of the league cup, good chance of making the semis of the fa cup and also a good chance of staying up? Still, no. They could easily go down and the Cups could contribute to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Still, no. They could easily go down and the Cups could contribute to this. For once I have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Not to mention MP would probably play 3 or 4 donkeys in the league cup final and FA cup quarter final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Surely now? Final of the league cup, good chance of making the semis of the fa cup and also a good chance of staying up? Basically give it a rest now please..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 What if they go down and win neither trophy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 No way would I swap. I think they will get so caught up in the Cup they will go the way of Wigan.. They may end up with games in hand and that was Wigan's undoing. They go to the end of the season believing they could get the results they needed. Ran out of runway.. If we can really kick on in the league we could make 7th or 6th and that would be good if we want to attract good players in the summer. We need to strengthen the squad and then who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2014 What if they go down and win neither trophy ? But to have tried and had a go than collect a medal for finishing 9th-6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Not in a million years. We can relax and enjoy the rest if the season. They have 2 or more days out and the threat if relegation. And Sunderland's a sh!thole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 That MLG chap might tell you things wouldn't be that simple as being a direct replacement. Many butterflies could flutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Not in a million years. We can relax and enjoy the rest if the season. They have 2 or more days out and the threat if relegation. And Sunderland's a sh!thole. Say they win both Cups and stay up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Say they win both Cups and stay up? if you are going to change the original post until someone says yes, why dony tou just start a new thread asking "who wants to see saints win the cup?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I would have changed positions with them a long time ago, my position on that is clear, why? Because they have an opportunity to actually win things, I bet the City is buzzing dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I would have changed positions with them a long time ago, my position on that is clear, why? Because they have an opportunity to actually win things, I bet the City is buzzing dont you? yes im sure the fans are buzzing. would i swap no beacause we have a far better team, better academy and things are bright for the club. the one thing i hope is we learn from our mistakes this year and take the competition more seriously next year. the team is great and are more than capable of doing really well next year if given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Say they win both Cups and stay up? "They win both cups and stay up" ......... No good, no matter how many times I say it, it still won't happen and even if it did, I'd still rather be in our position. Sound club, attractive football, great academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Say they win both Cups and stay up? I had that thought too, but then I remembered Middlesbrough some time back... (during Bryan Robson's management years) . They got to TWO Cup Finals....lost both of them....and then got relegated. I go with the OP ....it's a no-brainer .....8th. in the Prem. sounds pretty good to me, and at least we'll have something to build on next season. Gus, on the other hand may win a Cup, but end up like Wigan.. (that's if Sunderland Board don't sack him for getting them relegated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I would have changed positions with them a long time ago, my position on that is clear, why? Because they have an opportunity to actually win things, I bet the City is buzzing dont you? Why don't you go and support them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 8th in the Premiership, a far more talented squad built with home grown English players, one of the best academy systems around, stable financial footing behind the club, a clearly talented manager and potential for it to get even better? Or Sunderland in a relegation fight, with a hotch potch squad of overpaid ex Man Utd squad players and some journeyman foreigners? Just because they are in the final of a cup that most people don't really care about anyway? A no brainer really, on the path Sunderland are on if they don't get relegated this year then they probably will next year or the year after. I would say pretty much every mid-sized or small club in the country would love to be in the position we are in now (and I don't just mean league position) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Still no. As much as they've done well in cups, relegation battles are too stressful as a fan. Ok, so we're almost stuck where we are in the league, but I have to admit that it's nice for the first time in a few years to not have to be constantly worrying about our result, as well as 5 or 6 other teams. Let's be honest, Sunderland might still go down (can't see it myself but it's mathematically possible) and probably won't win either cup. I think come the end of the season, once we've all calmed down from the disgraceful events on Saturday, the majority will agree they'd rather be where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 "They win both cups and stay up" ......... No good, no matter how many times I say it, it still won't happen and even if it did, I'd still rather be in our position. Sound club, attractive football, great academy. You don't have to give up that part. Just our position with Sunderland in the league, and their League Cup final and FA cup quarter final. 8th in the Premiership, a far more talented squad built with home grown English players, one of the best academy systems around, stable financial footing behind the club, a clearly talented manager and potential for it to get even better? Or Sunderland in a relegation fight, with a hotch potch squad of overpaid ex Man Utd squad players and some journeyman foreigners? Just because they are in the final of a cup that most people don't really care about anyway? A no brainer really, on the path Sunderland are on if they don't get relegated this year then they probably will next year or the year after. I would say pretty much every mid-sized or small club in the country would love to be in the position we are in now (and I don't just mean league position) You don't have to give up that part. Just our position with Sunderland in the league, and their League Cup final and FA cup quarter final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 You don't have to give up that part. Just our position with Sunderland in the league, and their League Cup final and FA cup quarter final. You don't have to give up that part. Just our position with Sunderland in the league, and their League Cup final and FA cup quarter final. We wouldn't be in as sound a position if we were fighting relegation. The fear of going down could wreck everything, do I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roker Rover Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Still, no. They could easily go down and the Cups could contribute to this. OK would you swap for our 6 top flight titles and our 2 FA Cups and our 40,000+ average crowds despite being in a city smaller than Southampton? Not being funny but isn't football supposed to be about trying to win things? You have had a good season (but its just that, ONE good season, in fact its not even a full good season yet) Its no reason to get carried away and assume you've cracked it because the premier league can come back and bite you on the arse. You are not one of the bullet proof elite and your club like mine will inevitably find itself back in the Championship sooner or later. Our form since the first 8 games under the fruit loop when we collected 1 point and the players were not even talking to the coaching staff and manager, is actually every bit as good as yours. That period may well still do for us, but at least we are giving it a bloody good go and we have had some great moments along the way. A double v Newcastle for the first time since 1966, a home win v Man City, knocking Chelsea and Man Utd out of the league cup and securing our first Wembley trip for 16 years. Now we find ourselves with a real chance of making the next wait for a Wembley trip a mere 5 weeks!! Its been a brilliant season and I am loving every bit of it. And you know what? If we go down, football does not die. Some of my best moments in football have been outside the premier league which for the most part is tedious beyond belief for supporters of clubs like ours. Our last 6 seasons in the championship have seen us finish 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, and 1st and they have all been cracking good entertainment. I would argue we are the most successful second tier side in English football history given that we have won the second tier title 5 times been runners up twice and also won the FA Cup from the second division. I know your lot also won the cup from the second division but we can still trump you as we made a second final from there as well. I don't think anyone else has got to two FA Cup finals from outside the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 OK would you swap for our 6 top flight titles and our 2 FA Cups and our 40,000+ average crowds despite being in a city smaller than Southampton? Not being funny but isn't football supposed to be about trying to win things? You have had a good season (but its just that, ONE good season, in fact its not even a full good season yet) Its no reason to get carried away and assume you've cracked it because the premier league can come back and bite you on the arse. You are not one of the bullet proof elite and your club like mine will inevitably find itself back in the Championship sooner or later. Our form since the first 8 games under the fruit loop when we collected 1 point and the players were not even talking to the coaching staff and manager, is actually every bit as good as yours. That period may well still do for us, but at least we are giving it a bloody good go and we have had some great moments along the way. A double v Newcastle for the first time since 1966, a home win v Man City, knocking Chelsea and Man Utd out of the league cup and securing our first Wembley trip for 16 years. Now we find ourselves with a real chance of making the next wait for a Wembley trip a mere 5 weeks!! Its been a brilliant season and I am loving every bit of it. And you know what? If we go down, football does not die. Some of my best moments in football have been outside the premier league which for the most part is tedious beyond belief for supporters of clubs like ours. Our last 6 seasons in the championship have seen us finish 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, and 1st and they have all been cracking good entertainment. I would argue we are the most successful second tier side in English football history given that we have won the second tier title 5 times been runners up twice and also won the FA Cup from the second division. I know your lot also won the cup from the second division but we can still trump you as we made a second final from there as well. I don't think anyone else has got to two FA Cup finals from outside the top flight. Wouldn't say inevitably. Last time we stayed up for 27 years. We are much stronger financially now too, with a billionaire owner and filthy Sky lucre. I hate to say it but Gus has done brilliantly for you so far. If you stay up (and win a cup or two) you will have indeed had a great season, you bastards. Going down can be a disaster, and we almost did die actually after our last relegation. Yes there are parachute payments, but the gulf in money now can cripple a club. I admire you being sanguine about the possibility of relegation, but I wouldn't swap positions. If we went down our billionaire owner could get bored (or rather her nipper might) and it could all unravel damned quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Is this thread a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 18 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2014 I am going to believe a Sunderland fan on this more than some, I certainly would swap with you, our season is now tepid, dull and like a 70's housing estate. So my point was and is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 OK would you swap for our 6 top flight titles and our 2 FA Cups and our 40,000+ average crowds despite being in a city smaller than Southampton? Not being funny but isn't football supposed to be about trying to win things? You have had a good season (but its just that, ONE good season, in fact its not even a full good season yet) Its no reason to get carried away and assume you've cracked it because the premier league can come back and bite you on the arse. You are not one of the bullet proof elite and your club like mine will inevitably find itself back in the Championship sooner or later. Our form since the first 8 games under the fruit loop when we collected 1 point and the players were not even talking to the coaching staff and manager, is actually every bit as good as yours. That period may well still do for us, but at least we are giving it a bloody good go and we have had some great moments along the way. A double v Newcastle for the first time since 1966, a home win v Man City, knocking Chelsea and Man Utd out of the league cup and securing our first Wembley trip for 16 years. Now we find ourselves with a real chance of making the next wait for a Wembley trip a mere 5 weeks!! Its been a brilliant season and I am loving every bit of it. And you know what? If we go down, football does not die. Some of my best moments in football have been outside the premier league which for the most part is tedious beyond belief for supporters of clubs like ours. Our last 6 seasons in the championship have seen us finish 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, and 1st and they have all been cracking good entertainment. I would argue we are the most successful second tier side in English football history given that we have won the second tier title 5 times been runners up twice and also won the FA Cup from the second division. I know your lot also won the cup from the second division but we can still trump you as we made a second final from there as well. I don't think anyone else has got to two FA Cup finals from outside the top flight. I can feel the passion in your post and it is great to see. We all love our own club and follow them through thick and thin. I could never support another club so I can see where you are coming from. I am not arrogant to believe that our premier future is secure, of course not. Indeed, as other posters will tell you I am always looking over my shoulder at our points and only feel safe when we reach 40 plus points. Having supported Saints in the 80's and 90's I have seen to many close calls and relegation scraps to take top flight football for granted. It is for this reason I would not swap places with Sunderland at the moment. I am loving the league at the moment. It is a rare luxury supporting Saints to be 8th and 'safe' in February and I would like us to finish strongly and play without fear in the remaining games. Also, I believe we have to build for next season and i think we can do this now. So, for these reasons, no, I would not swap with your team. But, I understand where you are coming from and good luck for the rest of the season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 (edited) I like soulless modernist architecture. Oh well they still have memories of Wembley... Edited 7 April, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 At least Sunderland fans will always have the memory of the season they reached the cup final, got beat and were **** in the league all season. Lucky swines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Sunderland are having the dream season, to be fair. So envious of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Sunderland are having the dream season, to be fair. So envious of them Winning relegation at the moment, fair play to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Poor old Poyet back in the Chumpionship. Still not keeping up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 I bet the city is buzzing. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Sunderland are the worst team in the league by far.... Our results against them this season = W0 D2 L2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 They are so dreadful. No fight whatsoever in that game. How have we not beaten them?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Sunderland are the worst team in the league by far.... Our results against them this season = W0 D2 L2 The only thing that would make that better is if we swapped places with them. What a season up there for those fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Glasgow you are such a miserable negative **** head it defies belief. F off and support someone else ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 7 April, 2014 Share Posted 7 April, 2014 Sunderland are the worst team in the league by far.... Our results against them this season = W0 D2 L2 Unlucky for them that the table this year is decided from 38 games and from playing every other team in the league... Kind of a new thing I heard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 8 April, 2014 Share Posted 8 April, 2014 HaHa who started this amazingly interesting and relevant thread? dipstick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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