Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Final of the League Cup and now out the relegation zone, would you exchange it for our safety? They have us in the last 16 at home and like us will be eyeing up the last 8 so in short would you swap their position (not teams, not culture etc etc), do you wish we were going to the League Cup Final but with higher chance of getting relegated? Only time will tell, I would take the risk and if it failed would take the consequences, the reason for this is simply because of our lack of success in winning trophies, if we had won a Cup or even a European place in recent years I would not have gambeled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Great thread. Yes I'd roll the dice take at least one final and hope we survive. If our future means no finals and mid table mediocrity I'd take being a yo yo club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 You're serious, right? You wouldn't take the consequences. You'd be calling for heads to roll, questioning decision makers, slating the players, the manager, anyone who reminded you that you said you'd take the gamble. As for winning a cup in recent years, did you miss the JPT? Ok, so it's not a major cup but it was relevant at the time and just the tonic we needed as a club after years of disappointment and suffering. I'd take where we are now over risking relegation to pursue a cup dream. I know I've just been trolled, but that really was a ridiculous notion baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 You're serious, right? You wouldn't take the consequences. You'd be calling for heads to roll, questioning decision makers, slating the players, the manager, anyone who reminded you that you said you'd take the gamble. As for winning a cup in recent years, did you miss the JPT? Ok, so it's not a major cup but it was relevant at the time and just the tonic we needed as a club after years of disappointment and suffering. I'd take where we are now over risking relegation to pursue a cup dream. I know I've just been trolled, but that really was a ridiculous notion baz Yes I was at the JPT Final and it was a great great day, as was our ZDS Final against Forest but the question I was asking (no I am not trolling at all) was if you could swap positions with them would you? Sure they could get humped in the Final, go down and hopefully lose to us in the last 16 BUT as it stands at the moment would you? They could win the Final, stay up and be in the last 8 of the FA Cup, they have a chance of that at least AND they have a day out at Wembley at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 also i take it you would need to swap players too right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Would you want di canio and then poyet as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 also i take it you would need to swap players too right? No simply the situation they are in over ours. Thats all a hypothetical discussion obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Still no, I'm afraid. I'm more than content with our current position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Would you want di canio and then poyet as manager? No, not too sure what that has to do with the initial question on the thread mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 (edited) No, not too sure what that has to do with the initial question on the thread mind. Can't pick and chose mate. As our players simply won't be In serious danger of relegation Edited 30 January, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 We have a better team, a better academy and a better manager, I wouldn't trade that for a Wembley final and a relegation struggle thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 No simply the situation they are in over ours. Thats all a hypothetical discussion obviously. but to be in that situation they would have to be poorer players surely or are we assuming the players have just been really unlucky over the last 22 or so games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 but to be in that situation they would have to be poorer players surely or are we assuming the players have just been really unlucky over the last 22 or so games? They do have poorer player than us, not too sure what that means either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Can't pick and chose mate. As our players simply won't be In serious danger of relegation 2 league wins in 12!! Anyway back to OP... Yes id swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 2 league wins in 12!! Anyway back to OP... Yes id swap. The happier ones will try to derail the thread but wont clearly answer the question, its all hypothetical anyway, they are simply scared to commit themselves, middle of the road fans I suppose Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 The happier ones will try to derail the thread but wont clearly answer the question, its all hypothetical anyway, they are simply scared to commit themselves, middle of the road fans I suppose Glasgow. Batman reminds me of Tim from the UK office.... Simply content with mediocrity Tim: If you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands - yeah, it may only be a 3. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six - no problem, I could roll a 6... I could also roll a 1. OK? So, I think sometimes... Just leave the dice alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Yeah I'd love to swap places with Sunderland. Would be great to be feeling nervous every week and checking the results of the other teams to see if we were out of the relegation zone. This season has admitedly died down a bit, fairplay to them going well in the cups. But seriously? You must be joking, being in the relegation zone is no fun whatsoever, regardless of a cup run. Go on Sunderland's forum and ask them the same question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Nah I wouldn't...a drop to the CCC isn't the greatest thing to happen to your club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Yeah I'd love to swap places with Sunderland. Would be great to be feeling nervous every week and checking the results of the other teams to see if we were out of the relegation zone. This season has admitedly died down a bit, fairplay to them going well in the cups. But seriously? You must be joking, being in the relegation zone is no fun whatsoever, regardless of a cup run. Go on Sunderland's forum and ask them the same question They are not in the relegation zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Nah I wouldn't...a drop to the CCC isn't the greatest thing to happen to your club. Its not but winning a trophy is or should be the overall ambition of a football club, so winning something is better than stagnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Of course not. They have had barely anything good to watch all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyboy Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I'm normally a bit of a happy clapper and can get tired of some of the negative posts on here but I don't think this is a trolling question. Personally I'd prefer to be where we are, having seen the minor meltdowns on here if we lose a game, being down the wrong end of the table would mean pandemonium on here and amongst the fans. However if I was a Sunderland fan being asked would i exchange the cup final for safety.... I'm not sure what my answer would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Batman reminds me of Tim from the UK office.... Simply content with mediocrity Tim: If you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands - yeah, it may only be a 3. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six - no problem, I could roll a 6... I could also roll a 1. OK? So, I think sometimes... Just leave the dice alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Its not but winning a trophy is or should be the overall ambition of a football club, so winning something is better than stagnation. You think they will win the final then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I'm normally a bit of a happy clapper and can get tired of some of the negative posts on here but I don't think this is a trolling question. Personally I'd prefer to be where we are, having seen the minor meltdowns on here if we lose a game, being down the wrong end of the table would mean pandemonium on here and amongst the fans. However if I was a Sunderland fan being asked would i exchange the cup final for safety.... I'm not sure what my answer would be. Thank you Monkeyboy for answering the question, most on here will ***** about the thread yet contribute nothing and try to derail it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 You think they will win the final then? Possibly its like any Final but they have a better chance than we do of winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Possibly its like any Final but they have a better chance than we do of winning it. But we are still with a good chance in the FA cup? ..or did we get knocked out. Must of missed that. Anyway, you will argue all day so we will agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Better kit, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Them West Ham and Cardiff to go down please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Batman reminds me of Tim from the UK office.... Simply content with mediocrity Tim: If you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands - yeah, it may only be a 3. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six - no problem, I could roll a 6... I could also roll a 1. OK? So, I think sometimes... Just leave the dice alone. Most people who saw the Office would probably opt to be more like Tim than the others - grounded, humble, witty - laid by the busty blonde from the other regional office and ending up with Dawn as his permanent squeeze. Glasgow, most of your posts remind me of David Brent. You know, he rolled a six every time didn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Most people who saw the Office would probably opt to be more like Tim than the others - grounded, humble, witty - laid by the busty blonde from the other regional office and ending up with Dawn as his permanent squeeze. Glasgow, most of your posts remind me of David Brent. You know, he rolled a six every time didn't he. i do love David Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Most people who saw the Office would probably opt to be more like Tim than the others - grounded, humble, witty - laid by the busty blonde from the other regional office and ending up with Dawn as his permanent squeeze. Glasgow, most of your posts remind me of David Brent. You know, he rolled a six every time didn't he. They would but that does not detract he is happy to float along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I wouldn't dream of swapping. Don't forget we're in the 5th round of the FA Cup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Certainly wouldn't swap. Been a great season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I wouldn't dream of swapping. Don't forget we're in the 5th round of the FA Cup! So are Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Never. Its way too far up North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Batman reminds me of Tim from the UK office.... Simply content with mediocrity Tim: If you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands - yeah, it may only be a 3. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six - no problem, I could roll a 6... I could also roll a 1. OK? So, I think sometimes... Just leave the dice alone. You remind me of Gareth, though he was in permanent employment and did seem to have some hobbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Yes I would a trip to Wembley red and white and an easy fifth round FA Cup tie:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I often see where you are coming from Barry, but this thread is odd even by your standards. We still have a chance to make further progress in the FA Cup, coincidentally by extracting sweet sweet revenge in the first instance over the Arthur Blackpudding crew you refer to in the OP - led by the monkey-faced tw*t who felt we direspected him at Brighton despite the fact we stayed up and he went back down, and ordered his team last time out to cripple our players. I still maintain we've managed to get ourselves into No-Mans-Land league-wise, keeping the motivation up for the last dozen games is going to be a challenge if the FA cup run continues and many of pur players are Rio-bound, but I still wouldnt swap with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalneSaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 (edited) Would I swap our position with that of Sunderland, probably not, I agree a day at Wembley would be fantastic for the club and fans, especially if we won, we have agood chance to progress to the qtrs of the FA Cup, as do Sunderland, but the fear of relegation would be a nightmare. Also consider this...a few injuries to the Sunderland squad, like we have just gone through and they could find themselves back in the mire. So bottom line is No I wouldn't swap with the Maccam's.... A couple of seasons consolidating our position in the PL, with a slight improvement each year, and each year a good cup run, and if we reach a final yee haa ..... Edited 30 January, 2014 by CalneSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Nah I wouldn't...a drop to the CCC isn't the greatest thing to happen to your club. It's an entirely theoretical question, but ask yourself this. Would you prefer our last ten years as it happened, or would you prefer we had spent 10 years in the Premier League finishing between 8th or 9th and 16th, and with no visits to Wembley in any of the cups? I'd take the last 10 years every time. The championship holds no fears at all for me, I thoroughly enjoyed our time there even when we were relatively sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Given the choice (hypothetically), Id rather swap with Chelsea or Man City. If you think that anybody would wish to swap with Sunderland on any level at all, you must have a screw loose to even think it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Given the choice (hypothetically), Id rather swap with Chelsea or Man City. If you think that anybody would wish to swap with Sunderland on any level at all, you must have a screw loose to even think it. This - and to think of all the money they've spunked to end up where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 Given the choice (hypothetically), Id rather swap with Chelsea or Man City. i would maybe swap with brazil, already safe from relegation + with a home world cup coming up in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben05 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 If it was just league/cup position I would swap at the drop of a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 would anyone swap with the movie "12 years a slave"? 9 Oscar nominations, but there is the chance you could win nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 We have a better team, a better academy and a better manager, I wouldn't trade that for a Wembley final and a relegation struggle thank you very much. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 I'd take Tuesday night over pretty much anything, not sure it's an 'either/or' question is it? We still in the FA Cup, I reckon our future is about 100x brighter than theirs, so no I wouldn't swap. We are well on the way to being the best-of-the-rest and we are competitive and stand a chance of winning in pretty much every game we play now (bar Chelsea!). Reckon with the right draws we are a decent bet for one of the cups next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 If we're not swapping teams, absolutely I would. We wouldn't go down from their position now. Looks like they're on their way to safety as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 January, 2014 Share Posted 30 January, 2014 A Relegation battle and a dicking from Manchester City to come? Pass. I'd have taken Swansea's position last year though! Granted we'll probably only finish 8th - 10th, but I wouldn't swap mid-table for a relegation battle and for a cup final, especially not the League Cup against perhaps the World's most in form team at present. One of the only things Saints lack at present is squad depth, and that will come in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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