Dig Dig Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 How about replying to them then? Ummm, I was happily replying to them before you stuck your beak in Fry. Not sure what point you're making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Ummm, I was happily replying to them before you stuck your beak in Fry. Not sure what point you're making? Well, you directly replied to me suggesting I am "blaming" Cortese for something. I replied to say I have done no such thing and your response to that was to pretend that you directly so quoting me and replying to it was not aimed at me but other people. To that I say, fine. Okay then. If you want a general point, it's this - stop trying to find someone to blame - Katherina cashing in seems to be your new favourite. The world really ain't that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 For all I know, you may be a SFC plant ?? Not just a tedious nut, but a conspiracist tedious nut. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Well, you directly replied to me suggesting I am "blaming" Cortese for something. I replied to say I have done no such thing and your response to that was to pretend that you directly so quoting me and replying to it was not aimed at me but other people. To that I say, fine. Okay then. If you want a general point, it's this - stop trying to find someone to blame - Katherina cashing in seems to be your new favourite. The world really ain't that simple. Well I'm continually told that it's as simple as players wanting to leave for money and champions league football and there is nothing which can be done about it. The speed at which the deals were done and the confidence of 1 club in particular basing their transfer strategy around 3 of our main players tells me that the club were not all together that opposed to selling them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Gotta love Soccer Guy Soccer Guy @usasoccerguy 12m Looks like @JayRodriguez9 is heading to Madrid. #EPLSpain #FranchiseEnhancementWindow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnicoolas Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 what a load of bo**ox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Gotta love Soccer Guy Soccer Guy @usasoccerguy 12m Looks like @JayRodriguez9 is heading to Madrid. #EPLSpain #FranchiseEnhancementWindow HAHA what an idiot. Thankfully James Rodriguez has done his ACL and will be staying with us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Well I'm continually told that it's as simple as players wanting to leave for money and champions league football and there is nothing which can be done about it. The speed at which the deals were done and the confidence of 1 club in particular basing their transfer strategy around 3 of our main players tells me that the club were not all together that opposed to selling them off. Which is an opinion it is absolutely fine to hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 HAHA what an idiot. Thankfully James Rodriguez has done his ACL and will be staying with us then. Might use that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 HAHA what an idiot. Thankfully James Rodriguez has done his ACL and will be staying with us then. Soccer Guy is a lot of things, but an idiot isn't one of them Mainly he is an annoying wind up that catches the unwary out. Personally I enjoy his irreverence! #southcoastfranchiseclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Soccer Guy is a lot of things, but an idiot isn't one of them Mainly he is an annoying wind up that catches the unwary out. Personally I enjoy his irreverence! #southcoastfranchiseclub Think you might have missed the joke in the reply there Philip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Soccer Guy is a lot of things, but an idiot isn't one of them Mainly he is an annoying wind up that catches the unwary out. Personally I enjoy his irreverence! #southcoastfranchiseclub If that's so then fair enough, but I don't follow his stuff so had no prior inclination that he was anything other than one of a hundred other twitter idiots who do say this sort of thing. I guess the clue was in #Franchiseenhancementwindow which I liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Think you might have missed the joke in the reply there Philip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 For some reason, if he did decided to jump ship, I would find it the most disappointing. No idea why I should think him any different from the others, save that he comes across as such a down to earth sort of person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 HAHA what an idiot. Thankfully James Rodriguez has done his ACL and will be staying with us then. It's a comedy account. A very funny one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 It's a comedy account. A very funny one at that. Another one who cant read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 By that token, why have we offered a 5 year extension? And why has he npt rushed to sign for our fantastically run Club (A) Doesn't want to stress his knee (B) Shortage of "signing on" pens at St Marys © Waiting til he proves his fitness so he can attract genuine bidders You must admit he's been unlucky. Not so much missing the W.C, but missing out on the Fire Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 And why has he npt rushed to sign for our fantastically run Club (A) Doesn't want to stress his knee (B) Shortage of "signing on" pens at St Marys © Waiting til he proves his fitness so he can attract genuine bidders You must admit he's been unlucky. Not so much missing the W.C, but missing out on the Fire Sale Is there reallly any need? P**s off back to POL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 Some people are too stupid to understand what a fire sale is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 And why has he npt rushed to sign for our fantastically run Club (A) Doesn't want to stress his knee (B) Shortage of "signing on" pens at St Marys © Waiting til he proves his fitness so he can attract genuine bidders You must admit he's been unlucky. Not so much missing the W.C, but missing out on the Fire Sale You missed (D) He is just doing it to see how much moisture the bed wetters will pour into their mattresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 Shall we put a bet on which thread he spams next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 Is there reallly any need? P**s off back to POL. I'm stupid What is POL ? Is Fire Sale the wrong word ?? What do you call it when you Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can ? Oh, and thanks for your in depth assessment of the JRod non-signing situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 Shall we put a bet on which thread he spams next? Give us a clue Guv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 What do you call it when you Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can ? Good Business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 ]I'm stupid[/b] What is POL ? Is Fire Sale the wrong word ?? What do you call it when you Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can ? Oh, and thanks for your in depth assessment of the JRod non-signing situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 I know wiki is not the be all and end all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_sale A fire sale is the sale of goods at extremely discounted prices, typically when the seller faces bankruptcy or other impending distress. I've put the relevant bit in bold, but then again, maybe you think that the fee received for Lallana and Shaw were extremely discounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 If he wants to leave, he can sort his own anterior cruciate ligament out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 Is there reallly any need? P**s off back to POL. Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 HAHA what an idiot. Thankfully James Rodriguez has done his ACL and will be staying with us then. Another one who cant read. The full stop implies he's calling him an idiot then telling a lame joke. Another one who assumes someone is stupid. Very hard to read sarcasm on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 (edited) The full stop implies he's calling him an idiot then telling a lame joke. Another one who assumes someone is stupid. Very hard to read sarcasm on the internet. ooh get you… i want you to look back at post 213. I held my hands up then. You're preaching to the choir mate, but carry on if it makes you feel good. I probably would get a better reception on this forum if I had just levelled 24 lines of insults at dubai Phil and threatened to post pictures of his wife/daughter on the forum instead of admitting to something… Edited 24 July, 2014 by Mallagroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Is Fire Sale the wrong word ?? What do you call it when you Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can ? Fundraising. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 ooh get you… i want you to look back at post 213. I held my hands up then. You're preaching to the choir mate, but carry on if it makes you feel good. I probably would get a better reception on this forum if I had just levelled 24 lines of insults at dubai Phil and threatened to post pictures of his wife/daughter on the forum instead of admitting to something… So were you being sarcastic or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 A new contract will make no difference to whether he stays or goes, it only affects the price we get for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 A new contract will make no difference to whether he stays or goes, it only affects the price we get for him. Yes, I didn't know this but (according to the link @Minty put up the other day about engineering transfers) if a player doesn't put in a transfer request then the selling club have to pay up any "annual bonuses" in the contract up to the end of the contract. I guess this means, whilst we may get more for the player, we actually have to fork more out to them when they go as well, swings and roundabouts I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Tell him either he signs the new contract or he can contact the General for his rehab from now on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Tell him either he signs the new contract or he can contact the General for his rehab from now on! Why, he's still got two years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 So were you being sarcastic or not? About Rodriguez yes, it was a joke of debatable quality. I wasn't being sarcastic when I called the super cunning irreverent comedian who likes to pretend he's stupid 'in order to catch people out' an idiot, because I had no idea he wasn't just another internet numpty thinking he was ITK. Can we move on now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 I'm stupid Is Fire Sale the wrong word ?? What do you call it when you Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can ? Oh, and thanks for your in depth assessment of the JRod non-signing situation Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can = asset strip Sell as much as you can, for as little as you can = fire sale As for JayRod, when he was interviewed on Talksport before the WC he stated that Poch was the best manager he'd ever played for, made him a better player and is responsible for his rise to the England squad. It was a bit of an embarrassing love-in to be true. When questioned if he'll link back up with Poch, he just said he's concentrating on recovery and will look at his options when he's fit again. Whether he stays or goes will be dependent on who we sign this summer. If we are not challenging in the top 10, I wouldn't expect him to sign a 5 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Sell as much as you can, for as much as you can = asset strip Sell as much as you can, for as little as you can = fire sale Nope. Fire sale = sell as much as you can, as quickly as you can. Hence the term "fire" as in, there's a fire, hurry the Feck up. It may mean that prices end up low, but thats not the aim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Nope. Fire sale = sell as much as you can, as quickly as you can. Hence the term "fire" as in, there's a fire, hurry the Feck up. It may mean that prices end up low, but thats not the aim I'm sorry but where in the Supply/Demand equilibrium does "speed" enter the equation? You increase demand by lowering the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 I'm sorry but where in the Supply/Demand equilibrium does "speed" enter the equation? You increase demand by lowering the price. Well its assumed that to sell the s**t quickly enough you drop the price until it goes... Bucks Saint is completely correct in pointing out that in a fire sale, the speed is what defines the term. Otherwise if the prices are just low, then its surely just a regular sale... The whole point of a fire sale as he says is selling stuff urgently. Man Utds purchase of Fellaini last season would be like a fire buy, they bought a player last minute at a high price because they ran out of time and were under pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 I'm sorry but where in the Supply/Demand equilibrium does "speed" enter the equation? You increase demand by lowering the price. Unless you are a philanthropist, why would you ever want to achieve the lowest possible price? Fire sale means your objective is speed, i.e to raise money quickly. Yes of course that means discounted prices to help achieve the aim, but speed remains the aim, not raising as little as possible like you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Unless you are a philanthropist, why would you ever want to achieve the lowest possible price? Fire sale means your objective is speed, i.e to raise money quickly. Yes of course that means discounted prices to help achieve the aim, but speed remains the aim, not raising as little as possible like you said. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_sale The speed of the sale is an effect, kinda chicken 'n' egg, the low price comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_sale The speed of the sale is an effect, kinda chicken 'n' egg, the low price comes first. No it does not. Did you not spot this? "...typically when the seller faces bankruptcy or other impending distress". Philanthropy apart, there is no reason at all to have an objective to sell for as low as possible, which you keep ignoring. Your link gives a big clue about why a fire sale is needed - to raise money as quickly as possible to deal with impending distress, such as a bank demand, a loan repayment, rent arrears, creditor pressure or a CCJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Killer must be at his wits end with the board who seemingly can't even get a fire sale right. We're not giving the players away anywhere near cheaply enough. I dare say we could afford to pay to get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 24 July, 2014 Share Posted 24 July, 2014 Killer must be at his wits end with the board who seemingly can't even get a fire sale right. We're not giving the players away anywhere near cheaply enough. I dare say we could afford to pay to get rid of them. I've been mong-boarded. Over to the transfer thread to talk about old chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Guess he won't be signing this then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Guess he won't be signing this then I wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Liverpool are in for Jay Rod following the collapse of their deal for Remy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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