Clunge Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Sorry if been posted already: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2131360.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Interesting stuff - not least the bit about how his contract details got to be published as well. I can understand him being more than p i s s e d o f f...! Makes you wonder what kind of journalist prints such information and as JE says - where exactly did they get the information from. Mind you - all this sort of story does is put himself in the shop window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 "It's not as if i've suddenly suffered a drop in form". No you're right - you were always this sh*t. To be honest I don't want him in the side anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Euell in play me or I'll leave shocker. No doubt that if we could find a taker he wouldn't be making that cliched filled statement. He wants to leave, we want him to leave so where's the problem?? Oh yeah, no other suckers will pay him 14000£ a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 In theory I wanted him to play to add experience, but then I saw him play a couple of times and he was vastly inferior to all the kids. With the money he's on, I'd get him out asap. For a quarter or less of the wages he'd be worth keeping, but no way on that silly money. More than Saga ffs. Losing Euell and Thomas would mean we could afford to pay Rasiak or John looking at the wages. They might make a big difference, Euell won't. Adrian, Rasiak and John aren't coming back. Deal with that.They don't want to and we don't want them to (we being the club board) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I agree for the wages he is on, he does not represent value for the club. I'm also surprised that he claims to not what's going on. If we are treating him so badly, surely he would have told his agent to have a look at getting him another club, even if it was done surreptitiously I would imagine that Euell is on more wages that Saeijs and Molyneux combined. If we could shift him out and get another two like these lads in, I'd be well happy. Although having seen his wages, I can't see any club matching them. I would imagine that he would want a 2 and a half yr contract at least, if he moves in January. Can't see him getting that in the current economic climate. I think our only hope would be for some club to take him on loan until the end of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Can't imagine being on £10,000 a week and just having to turn up and have a knock about in training - nighmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Rudi and Euell... the men all want to leave Lowe's failing army and are telling the world how bad it is. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I agree for the wages he is on, he does not represent value for the club. I'm also surprised that he claims to not what's going on. If we are treating him so badly, surely he would have told his agent to have a look at getting him another club, even if it was done surreptitiously I would imagine that Euell is on more wages that Saeijs and Molyneux combined. If we could shift him out and get another two like these lads in, I'd be well happy. Although having seen his wages, I can't see any club matching them. I would imagine that he would want a 2 and a half yr contract at least, if he moves in January. Can't see him getting that in the current economic climate. I think our only hope would be for some club to take him on loan until the end of his contract. Just Molyneux and Saejis?? Probably more than Molyneux,James,Saijs,Perry,Schneiderlin and McGoldrick. they really don't earn that much down at SMS nowadays. Wait and see till the half year figures come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Personally I do not see that he is out of line at all ! The club gave him the contract in the first place and after a difficult start he had a good spell under Pearson and (seemingly reluctantly) when given an outing under Poortvliet he has been ok and has brought some much needed experience when given the oppotunity ! What he is saying is, if the manager does not think that I am better than Gillett, Gobern, Thomson, Smith, Patterson, McLaggon etc.. then do me a deal or pay up my contract and I'm offski ! If we are contractually committed to pay him (which we are) then why the hell do we not try and and get the best out of him ? It strikes me that Rupesy is cutting his nose off to spite his face, no less!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Personally I do not see that he is out of line at all ! The club gave him the contract in the first place and after a difficult start he had a good spell under Pearson and (seemingly reluctantly) when given an outing under Poortvliet he has been ok and has brought some much needed experience when given the oppotunity ! What he is saying is, if the manager does not think that I am better than Gillett, Gobern, Thomson, Smith, Patterson, McLaggon etc.. then do me a deal or pay up my contract and I'm offski ! If we are contractually committed to pay him (which we are) then why the hell do we not try and and get the best out of him ? It strikes me that Rupesy is cutting his nose off to spite his face, no less!!!! I totally agree with your logic. But I try to see the other side From the club's side I would ask - Are there other players out there who would fit into this team and do a better job than Euell has done in his career so far? IMHO the answer would be yes. So it seems obvious to all of us that he is on crazy money in these crazy times and so we cannot see anyone wanting to pay him the same money even on a loan, so UNFORTUNATELY the only option is to make the player so unhappy that he says "sod it" and decides to leave on his own accord and give up his high earnings in order to "simply play football" It's not just a football thing it's pretty much in there in the how to get rid of somebody you don't like hand book. Do I feel sorry for him? No. Is it unfair? No Why? because I don't feel we have had value for money since he came in. IF we still had money to burn then I'd think it horrific, but right now in my book his staying stops us signing a couple of decent players that would fit into the system - like a RB and a wise lump of a forward (Note I say based on what he;s done so far not what MAY happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 im not happy that the mule is still a saints player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 If this is a "come and get me" plea by jason and his agent I hope someone is linstening. I doubt it though. Pity really cos just him off the wage bill would be a hell of a saving financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redorwhitelion Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 All a bit of a non-story. Saints don't want him to play and get injured while they might be able to shift him, if not he starts getting back in the squad come February. I'm a little surprised the he's so surprised. If we don't manage to move him on I think he may prove to be useful, much like last year. If he does moves on and we can get a couple of players in and still save money even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 If this is a "come and get me" plea by jason and his agent I hope someone is linstening. I doubt it though. Pity really cos just him off the wage bill would be a hell of a saving financially. No-one will pay 14K a week(or even 10K a week) for an iffy player of his standard any more. He's no longer premiership quality and no-one in the CCC is flush with cash for a risk like Euell nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 If this is a "come and get me" plea by jason and his agent I hope someone is linstening. I doubt it though. Pity really cos just him off the wage bill would be a hell of a saving financially. I think he is carp and if another club are mugs to want him, they are welcome. That said, it wasn't very professional to leak personal details - whoever did it and I don't blame him for being cross about that. It doesn't change the fact however that he has been awful - that performance V Plymouth last season was one of the worst I've ever seen and the chant that followed his substitution was spot-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 How can anyone feel sorry for a player on £0.75m a year plus NIC in the Championship. He is not a player that has justified or likely to justify that wage. If he is so desperate to play go and ask for his contract to be cancelled without compensation but being a free agent he can then find a new club and, if he is so sure of his abillity, sign elsewhere for a fat signing on fee. But he won't. He has a contract and he is entitled to be paid whilst he helps drag us into posible Administration. Jason, I can understand why you were unhappy about your contract details being released (and the fact you have not challenged means the figures are correct) but in my opinion you should shut up about playing and being pushed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 No-one will pay 14K a week(or even 10K a week) for an iffy player of his standard any more. He's no longer premiership quality and no-one in the CCC is flush with cash for a risk like Euell nowadays. He actually rates himself as "still premiership quality" !!!!!!!!!!! oh dear !! Come On Stoke....you love our players, here's one more for ya !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 No-one will pay 14K a week(or even 10K a week) for an iffy player of his standard any more. He's no longer premiership quality and no-one in the CCC is flush with cash for a risk like Euell nowadays. Don't know what happened to him at Charlton - was a good, regular PL player and then seemed to fall out with Curbishley and never got a game at Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 He actually rates himself as "still premiership quality" !!!!!!!!!!! oh dear !! Come On Stoke....you love our players, here's one more for ya !!! I forgot Stoke, boy are they going to come a cropper in the near future. They'll not survive 1 season in the CCC when they come back down in May. I think you could build a better side by going round boy scout jumble sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 He actually rates himself as "still premiership quality" !!!!!!!!!!! oh dear !! Come On Stoke....you love our players, here's one more for ya !!! Pulis isn't daft though. Euell might get a game at Leyton Orient or perhaps Charlton want some nostalgia value?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Don't know what happened to him at Charlton - was a good, regular PL player and then seemed to fall out with Curbishley and never got a game at Boro. He got old. Happens to all of us you know. Some player go into a long gradual decline, some just drop like lead bricks. It's a sign of talent and class. You can fake it up until you're about 28 but then only true class will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Euell not happy? Well, there's a piece of news that's about as startling as announcing "water is wet!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 If you register on his website, you can ask him a question :-) http://www.jasoneuell.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I say fine him a months wages, will assist with our financial plight, he has failed to convince us fans he can do a job in the championship let alone the premiership, all this talk by senior pro's on good deals at our club needs to be knocked on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 If you register on his website, you can ask him a question :-) http://www.jasoneuell.com/ I think I shall register and ask him what are his views on the Lorentz-Lorenz correction to Einstein's Theory of Relativity then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I think I shall register and ask him what are his views on the Lorentz-Lorenz correction to Einstein's Theory of Relativity then. On the other hand I may just ask him to lend me £25 just until I get my divvy from the Luton and Hemel Hempstead Building Society.:yawinkle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchrisy Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Premiership???????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 im not happy that the mule is still a saints player Agreed but i am also not happy with the cowardly way we are going about off loading him. Respective of the money he is on , if the club were responsible for leaking his contract details it shows how low we have sunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 It makes no sense to freeze players out like Rudi and Euell while the team is complete ****e, we would be better off getting the best out of them while we pay their wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 It makes no sense to freeze players out like Rudi and Euell while the team is complete ****e, we would be better off getting the best out of them while we pay their wages. common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Agreed but i am also not happy with the cowardly way we are going about off loading him. Respective of the money he is on , if the club were responsible for leaking his contract details it shows how low we have sunk. what cowardly way...if HE wanted to leave he would be off like a shot (ie kenwyne) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I love The Sun's maximisation of a storm in a tea-cup, when they say... Euell has not featured in the first team THIS YEAR. My god... that means he hasn't played for... 14 days..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 not getting much sympathy is he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 it reads like an advert to me. He is out of contract in the summer so he needs a new club (he knows he won't be getting a new deal here). If he isn't playing in the side then no one can watch him and then when his contract ends prospective clubs are going to think to themselves, he hasn't been playing so how good can he be? That sort of thought leads to clubs offering lower wages. Telling the world he isn't getting games cos Saints need to sell (true of course) will explain why he has not been playing and can only help to add a few quid to his next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 It makes no sense to freeze players out like Rudi and Euell while the team is complete ****e, we would be better off getting the best out of them while we pay their wages. what if they get injured? Who is going to take them off our hands then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Jason has not played consistently for many years now.....Charlton and Middlesborough. But still on high wages....Still play him Centre Half in Reserves...Something might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 The second best thread on here right now - finally an outpouring of cynicism at an over paid non performer. I have 4 final words to say on the subject Cheerio Cheerio Cheerio.... please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 How can anyone feel sorry for a player on £0.75m a year plus NIC in the Championship. He is not a player that has justified or likely to justify that wage. If he is so desperate to play go and ask for his contract to be cancelled without compensation but being a free agent he can then find a new club and, if he is so sure of his abillity, sign elsewhere for a fat signing on fee. But he won't. He has a contract and he is entitled to be paid whilst he helps drag us into posible Administration. Jason, I can understand why you were unhappy about your contract details being released (and the fact you have not challenged means the figures are correct) but in my opinion you should shut up about playing and being pushed out. That's very hard Weston. As an experienced ex-Premiership player he probably has an extravagent lifestyle and many ex-wives to support. Surely it's our duty to finance him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Sorry chaps, I have to say that I disagree with most of the posts on this thread. When we signed Euell I was very pleased as he is someone I have always rated. Clearly, I had no idea what the financial terms were and nor should I: it serves no purpose to publicise someone's wages like that. In his first few months with us I was really disappointed with his form as I really felt he had more to offer. The cup match away at Bristol Rovers stands out in my memory as a particularly bad day for him. However, as others have pointed out, he was rejuvinated under Pearson and embarked on his own Indian Summer. I followed him closely in pre-season and was very impressed. I really noticed at the smaller grounds just how much organisation and encouragement he offers the youngsters and technically I believe he is among our best players. I was really disappointed he didn't play more at the start of the season and delighted when he was recalled. I felt he was beginning to make an impact again when he was harshly sent off and put out of action for 3 games. Clearly if the club receives an offer then it is a different matter but certainly I would be picking him whilst he is here. If you look at his comments he isn't really whinging - only about the publication of his wages in that god-awful local rag. He WANTS to play for us and stay and help out which is more than I can say for countless others who have jumped ship when we've hit stormy sees over the past couple of seasons. That, in my opinion, should be commended. Yes, the previous board were obviously financially irresponsible in tranfer fees paid and wages offered but that's hardly Euell's fault. Don't forget his agent's job would have been to secure the best deal possible. I'm not so interested in the finances but more in having good players here who want to play for us. Euell, Surman and Schneirderlin in central midfield for me everytime I'm afraid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 what if they get injured? Who is going to take them off our hands then? I don't get your point, they could just as easily get injured in training or the reserves. Yes he is overpaid and has not performed well, but we are still paying his wages while he is sat on his arse doing naff all - same with when Lowe froze Rudi out. If we were doing OK I wouldn't mind but we are not. The team is playing ****e and it's looking like were getting relegated - freezing out two experienced players is not a good use of resources. A good manager would get the best out of players like this in our situation, then they might actually be able to be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Sorry chaps, I have to say that I disagree with most of the posts on this thread. When we signed Euell I was very pleased as he is someone I have always rated. Clearly, I had no idea what the financial terms were and nor should I: it serves no purpose to publicise someone's wages like that. In his first few months with us I was really disappointed with his form as I really felt he had more to offer. The cup match away at Bristol Rovers stands out in my memory as a particularly bad day for him. However, as others have pointed out, he was rejuvinated under Pearson and embarked on his own Indian Summer. I followed him closely in pre-season and was very impressed. I really noticed at the smaller grounds just how much organisation and encouragement he offers the youngsters and technically I believe he is among our best players. I was really disappointed he didn't play more at the start of the season and delighted when he was recalled. I felt he was beginning to make an impact again when he was harshly sent off and put out of action for 3 games. Clearly if the club receives an offer then it is a different matter but certainly I would be picking him whilst he is here. If you look at his comments he isn't really whinging - only about the publication of his wages in that god-awful local rag. He WANTS to play for us and stay and help out which is more than I can say for countless others who have jumped ship when we've hit stormy sees over the past couple of seasons. That, in my opinion, should be commended. Yes, the previous board were obviously financially irresponsible in tranfer fees paid and wages offered but that's hardly Euell's fault. Don't forget his agent's job would have been to secure the best deal possible. I'm not so interested in the finances but more in having good players here who want to play for us. Euell, Surman and Schneirderlin in central midfield for me everytime I'm afraid... Whilst I have never rated Euell and certainly not at the wages and add ons he is getting I have to say this is a good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I'm not a fan of his by any means but there's not point tearing into him due to his wages. His agent would have asked for it and we (the royal 'we') were prepared to pay it. We're the plonkers not him. The fact that he was personally targetted throught the Echo is pretty poor show on behalf of the Club - assuming that's where the leak came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 All a bit of a non-story. Saints don't want him to play and get injured while they might be able to shift him, if not he starts getting back in the squad come February. I'm a little surprised the he's so surprised. If we don't manage to move him on I think he may prove to be useful, much like last year. If he does moves on and we can get a couple of players in and still save money even better. Trouble with the logic of not playing him though is that if he does not play, then he cannot attract someone to take him and pay his wages and therefore we still end up with a player who does not want to be there, the club does not want him and no-one is happy, least of all us supporters. I think the players we have wanted to shift on have been treated quite poorly both pre season and now, and the bit about publishing his contract details was funny because it was preceded by a statement that said something like 'we do not like to talk about individual players contracts' (otherwise read as unless it suits us to do so).... The club is an absolute shambles right now and I am sure any prospective players may look at it and think twice about coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 "Jason Euell not good" would be an equally accurate headline. Irritating that we have loaned out players like John, Saga and Rasiak to save money, when this cart horse is still on the wage books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I don't get your point, they could just as easily get injured in training or the reserves. I disagree with this point. I know training is competitive but its in matches where players really stretch themselves to the limit as well as getting proper knocks from oponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 I always thought Euell was a striker, but then he came and played in midfield. As far as I am concerned we'd do well to put him up front, since we are paying him that much. Why not play him? Who is going to want a player who isn't even playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 Sorry chaps, I have to say that I disagree with most of the posts on this thread. When we signed Euell I was very pleased as he is someone I have always rated. Clearly, I had no idea what the financial terms were and nor should I: it serves no purpose to publicise someone's wages like that. In his first few months with us I was really disappointed with his form as I really felt he had more to offer. The cup match away at Bristol Rovers stands out in my memory as a particularly bad day for him. However, as others have pointed out, he was rejuvinated under Pearson and embarked on his own Indian Summer. I followed him closely in pre-season and was very impressed. I really noticed at the smaller grounds just how much organisation and encouragement he offers the youngsters and technically I believe he is among our best players. I was really disappointed he didn't play more at the start of the season and delighted when he was recalled. I felt he was beginning to make an impact again when he was harshly sent off and put out of action for 3 games. Clearly if the club receives an offer then it is a different matter but certainly I would be picking him whilst he is here. If you look at his comments he isn't really whinging - only about the publication of his wages in that god-awful local rag. He WANTS to play for us and stay and help out which is more than I can say for countless others who have jumped ship when we've hit stormy sees over the past couple of seasons. That, in my opinion, should be commended. Yes, the previous board were obviously financially irresponsible in tranfer fees paid and wages offered but that's hardly Euell's fault. Don't forget his agent's job would have been to secure the best deal possible. I'm not so interested in the finances but more in having good players here who want to play for us. Euell, Surman and Schneirderlin in central midfield for me everytime I'm afraid... Spot on. IMO he's not been playing because of appearance money in his contract which interestingly, was not published in the Echo. I see no other reason why JP wouldn't pick him, not because he's brilliant or anything but because he's obviously better than Gobern, Gillett etc. Also, Paterson has been picked up front when Euell would have been a better option... Maybe appearance money wasn't leaked to the Echo because it would show that JP had his hands tied to a degree when picking the side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 14 January, 2009 Share Posted 14 January, 2009 you tell em jase hes a great proffessional, a leader on the pitch and we need his experience in the middle of the park. we should be grateful that its taken him over half a season of working hard and trying to make himself useful to us before he finally wonders why he is being ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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