The BBC Thread

[whelk]

37 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The licence fee is worth it for David Attenborough alone. When compared to so much of the dross out there it is still good value. The BBC is more of a part of the fabric of the UK than flags on lampposts. It is firmly embedded in the growth of modern day Britain. It’s a shame that the so called patriots don’t value it. Too busy getting their gammon fix on GB News I suppose.

Attenborough is on Netflix

[whelk]

35 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Thats twice now, excellent work, it especially highlights your overall inability to look at situations as anything other than completely binary.

🤣

BBC gave Katy Hopkins her prominence.

[sadoldgit]

59 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Thats twice now, excellent work, it especially highlights your overall inability to look at situations as anything other than completely binary.

🤣

It’s a point of view. I have already said that change is needed so I don’t see how that is ‘binary?’

[Turkish]

embarrassing 

[Patrick Bateman]

7 hours ago, The Kraken said:

I love what the Beeb has done and indeed some of what it still does (Monday quiz night last night was particularly difficult, mind).

But, in this day and age of streaming and multiple subscriptions, a mandatory license fee to fund the BBC is really something of a disgrace. It’s such an outdated model and will become abused more and more. It’s a shame, but I do think that the payment model simply has to change.

This. Those who like the "unique way the BBC is funded" are dinosaurs.

[AlexLaw76]

BBC had the golden goose when the concept of a Netflix style service was showing its leg. They had an enormous catalogue of content and could have removed the shackles of the license fee and dominated parts of this industry.

They have well and truly missed the boat, and any additional/optional charges they try to introduce will largely fail, mainly due to the shit content compared to other services. 

[benjii]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

BBC had the golden goose when the concept of a Netflix style service was showing its leg. They had an enormous catalogue of content and could have removed the shackles of the license fee and dominated parts of this industry.

They have well and truly missed the boat, and any additional/optional charges they try to introduce will largely fail, mainly due to the shit content compared to other services. 

It's not really up to the BBC to unilaterally do that. It would have needed political buy in as well to remove its public service obligations.

The BBC makes significant commercial profits from licensing content but these are often wiped out by its public service commitments.

[Weston Super Saint]

5 minutes ago, benjii said:

It's not really up to the BBC to unilaterally do that. It would have needed political buy in as well to remove its public service obligations.

The BBC makes significant commercial profits from licensing content but these are often wiped out by its public service commitments.

And making Mrs Brown's boys.

[benjii]

56 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And making Mrs Brown's boys.

They don't make it.

I expect they have made plenty of money off it, though. 

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

They don't make it.

I expect they have made plenty of money off it, though. 

That is a strange one. I can only think that they are trying to be all things to all people and are trying to cater for those still stuck in the 1970’s.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

That is a strange one. I can only think that they are trying to be all things to all people and are trying to cater for those still stuck in the 1970’s.

The only thing stuck in the 70’s related to the bbc is the way it’s funded. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

19 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

It’s a point of view. I have already said that change is needed so I don’t see how that is ‘binary?’

Change 😂😂😂. What change are you proposing, paying 4 weekly instead of monthly. I’m betting any change you want, involves compulsory payment, and people still facing the prospect of prison if they don’t pony up. You can bet your life it won’t involve the option of not watching/not paying…

Edited Wednesday at 12:33 by Lord Duckhunter

[east-stand-nic]

3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

That is a strange one. I can only think that they are trying to be all things to all people and are trying to cater for those still stuck in the 1970’s.

Once again you make yourself look rather silly. People stuck in the 70s? Would that be people who like Monty python and Fawlty towers?

[sadoldgit]

This should be interesting.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-s-bbc-lawsuit-puts-him-on-the-stand-where-he-must-tell-the-truth/ar-AA1StSFz?cvid=0a52709d84d24cfba130b4b88e8f4765&ocid=hpmsn

[tdmickey3]

17 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

Once again you make yourself look rather silly. People stuck in the 70s? Would that be people who like Monty python and Fawlty towers?

[sadoldgit]

17 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

Once again you make yourself look rather silly. People stuck in the 70s? Would that be people who like Monty python and Fawlty towers?

Oh dear.

Get a grown up to explain to you why there is a difference between having an attitude that hasn’t changed in 50 years and still being firmly rooted in the past, and actually evolving.

I’ll give you an example. Men used to call women “birds” back in the 60’s and 70’s. The only people who still call them “birds” in 2025 are those who have that same mentality and haven’t  moved on with the times.

The only person making themselves look silly is you nic.
 

 

[Turkish]

Talking of being stuck in the 70s anyone else buzzing for mince pies on their morning coffee break today?

[sadoldgit]

Liz Truss as a “voice of authority?” 
😂

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/donald-trumps-10bn-claim-against-bbc-mentions-liz-truss-as-voice-of-authority-401423/#

[east-stand-nic]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Oh dear.

Get a grown up to explain to you why there is a difference between having an attitude that hasn’t changed in 50 years and still being firmly rooted in the past, and actually evolving.

I’ll give you an example. Men used to call women “birds” back in the 60’s and 70’s. The only people who still call them “birds” in 2025 are those who have that same mentality and haven’t  moved on with the times.

The only person making themselves look silly is you nic.
 

 

So if someone likes Mrs browns boys they are stuck in 70s yes?

However, someone who still likes Monty Python and Fawlty Towers has evolved?

Can you honestly not see how fucking idiotic you are?

Edited yesterday at 10:26 by east-stand-nic

[AlexLaw76]

No serious person likes Mrs Browns Boys....no way

[whelk]

SPOTY still a decent watch although not overly bothered who wins still some reminders of the year’s sport.

[sadoldgit]

13 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

So if someone likes Mrs browns boys they are stuck in 70s yes?

However, someone who still likes Monty Python and Fawlty Towers has evolved?

Can you honestly not see how fucking idiotic you are?

You really need to have a look in the mirror mate. Those programmes were made half a century ago. Mrs. Brown’s Boys is being made now, 50 years on.

What you really do not understand is the huge difference in the quality of the writing and intelligence of the level of humour in both Monty Python’s Flying Circus and Fawlty Towers and Mrs. Brown’s Boys. Both of the former were pushing the boundaries of comedy. The latter is trading on the dregs of the worst of the past.

You haven’t just shot yourself in the foot, you have made yourself look even more clueless than before, which is some feat.

 

🤪

 

[skintsaint]

[east-stand-nic]

6 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

You really need to have a look in the mirror mate. Those programmes were made half a century ago. Mrs. Brown’s Boys is being made now, 50 years on.

What you really do not understand is the huge difference in the quality of the writing and intelligence of the level of humour in both Monty Python’s Flying Circus and Fawlty Towers and Mrs. Brown’s Boys. Both of the former were pushing the boundaries of comedy. The latter is trading on the dregs of the worst of the past.

You haven’t just shot yourself in the foot, you have made yourself look even more clueless than before, which is some feat.

 

🤪

 

Nope. Once again I have outed you as an opinionated double standards swine. You are OK to sit and enjoy TV made 50 years ago, but if anyone dare to like something lade recently that you think is bad, it makes them stuck in the 70's where as you are not. Hilarious stuff. So I assume you will refuse to watch Monty python reruns? Idiot. 

When it was written is irrelevant, your words were if anyone likes it, they are stuck in the 70's. The same era as TV shows you stated you liked 😁so, but definition you are also stuck in the 70's. The end. 

Edited 13 hours ago by east-stand-nic

[egg]

27 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Nope. Once again I have outed you as an opinionated double standards swine. You are OK to sit and enjoy TV made 50 years ago, but if anyone dare to like something lade recently that you think is bad, it makes them stuck in the 70's where as you are not. Hilarious stuff. So I assume you will refuse to watch Monty python reruns? Idiot. 

When it was written is irrelevant, your words were if anyone likes it, they are stuck in the 70's. The same era as TV shows you stated you liked 😁so, but definition you are also stuck in the 70's. The end. 

Feck me, the drivel you post. There's a world of difference between appreciating a classic programme from the 70's and liking a shit programme that's still made but is stuck in a time warp. 

[benjii]

6 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Fleece Navidad - top pun.

[egg]

7 minutes ago, benjii said:

Fleece Navidad - top pun.

The pun and amandaland are the only good things on that list. 

[badgerx16]

7 hours ago, skintsaint said:

That's one less channel to watch.

[east-stand-nic]

1 hour ago, egg said:

Feck me, the drivel you post. There's a world of difference between appreciating a classic programme from the 70's and liking a shit programme that's still made but is stuck in a time warp. 

No, there isn't in this context. You really do need to try harder to understand. 

[tdmickey3]

3 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

No, there isn't in this context. You really do need to try harder to understand. 

[egg]

6 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

No, there isn't in this context. You really do need to try harder to understand. 

There's always a context to discussion mate, but it's rarely the same as the context swimming around in your head. 

[sadoldgit]

When I was a kid and there was only two then three channels they always used to put on great Christmas specials and keep the big films back for Christmas week. Pre video recorders there was always a big debate about what to watch. They don’t seem to bother too much now.

[whelk]

I miss the joy of having a two week Radio Times and TV Times for scanning

[whelk]

1 hour ago, egg said:

There's always a context to discussion mate, but it's rarely the same as the context swimming around in your head. 

Whilst there has always been spats between posters rather than discuss, Nic takes it to a new level of never discussing or responding to any counter points. Not sure what he gets from here TBH

[The Kraken]

57 minutes ago, whelk said:

I miss the joy of having a two week Radio Times and TV Times for scanning

Yep. As a kid I I used to make my own bespoke tv schedule based on the top films and programmes that would be on. 

Tbf Christmas Day itself has always been pretty dreadful. But can definitely remember Boxing Day being great, usually a Bind film or two to choose from plus a “latest” release,

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

No, there isn't in this context. You really do need to try harder to understand. 

I am never sure if you are on a wind up, are being deliberately obtuse or just don’t understand the points people make. Whatever is going on with you, it is a waste of time and effort.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

13 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I am never sure if you are on a wind up, are being deliberately obtuse or just don’t understand the points people make. Whatever is going on with you, it is a waste of time and effort.

"Would a Mr Pot, please go to the foyer? Mr Kettle waiting. That's a Mr Pot to the foyer. 🙂

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

I miss the joy of having a two week Radio Times and TV Times for scanning

I still get one every year - tradition innit.

[trousers]

Yay! Mrs Brown's Boys. Superb.

[Winnersaint]

2 hours ago, The Kraken said:

Bind film

Just wondering if that's some kind of BDSM movie?😂

[Turkish]

3 hours ago, The Kraken said:

Yep. As a kid I I used to make my own bespoke tv schedule based on the top films and programmes that would be on. 

Tbf Christmas Day itself has always been pretty dreadful. But can definitely remember Boxing Day being great, usually a Bind film or two to choose from plus a “latest” release,

didnt it used to be the queens speech, followed by christmas Top of the Pops then a Bond film? Used to love that

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

BBC all in is great. From radio to online to kids stuff (cbeebies / bitesize).

Not sure if people appreciate all of what it does.

Can they manage costs better / clean up their processes etc, for sure.

Edited 3 hours ago by JohnnyShearer2.0

[AlexLaw76]

11 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

BBC all in is great. From radio to online to kids stuff (cbeebies / bitesize).

Not sure if people appreciate all of what it does.

Can they manage costs better / clean up their processes etc, for sure.

Then it should flourish if made to fight for its own food.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

It's not as simple as that in my opinion. 

If the BBC had to ‘fight for its own food,’ it would survive by dropping the very services people undervalue today—children’s education, local radio, cultural programming, and niche content. It wouldn’t prove its worth, it would simply become another commercial broadcaster, which rather defeats the purpose.

[Winnersaint]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

didnt it used to be the queens speech, followed by christmas Top of the Pops then a Bond film? Used to love that

Pretty much, going further back the real highlight was the Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show in the middle of the evening, this is from 1977. Newsreaders and sports commentators of the day doing 'There ain't nothing like a dame.'

[AlexLaw76]

3 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

It's not as simple as that in my opinion. 

If the BBC had to ‘fight for its own food,’ it would survive by dropping the very services people undervalue today—children’s education, local radio, cultural programming, and niche content. It wouldn’t prove its worth, it would simply become another commercial broadcaster, which rather defeats the purpose.

It’s heading that way… pretty quickly to be fair.

Rarely do big media organisations survive a Jimmy Saville, and the BBC have a few of them.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Well it will be a shame if it disappears completely. I hold value in it if others don't. 

Bitesize started when I was at school back in the 90s. Only difference was I had to set the vhs player to record at 1am in the morning for what I needed at GSCE level!

[sadoldgit]

9 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Well it will be a shame if it disappears completely. I hold value in it if others don't. 

Bitesize started when I was at school back in the 90s. Only difference was I had to set the vhs player to record at 1am in the morning for what I needed at GSCE level!

The BBC have also raised millions and millions of pounds for charity through Children In Need and Red Nose Day. DIY SOS helps to change lives. The BBC covers so many bases. We should cherish it, it has been part of what defines this country for decades.

[The Kraken]

42 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Well it will be a shame if it disappears completely. I hold value in it if others don't. 

It’s really isn’t such a binary answer as that. I’m sure everybody who watches it holds some value in the BBC down the years. Criticism of the payment model doesn’t change that at all.

But we’re not in 1950 any more where there are no other channels. Nor are we in the 1980s where there are 4. Television options have changed immeasurably with streaming services. It’s an entirely different market nowadays. 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

6 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

It’s really isn’t such a binary answer as that. I’m sure everybody who watches it holds some value in the BBC down the years. Criticism of the payment model doesn’t change that at all.

But we’re not in 1950 any more where there are no other channels. Nor are we in the 1980s where there are 4. Television options have changed immeasurably with streaming services. It’s an entirely different market nowadays. 

Its just how I feel. 

All I'm saying is that it encompasses so much more than tv. People associate the fee too much with the tv element.