S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Or Ntcham? I think he'll cost a bit too much. Going by the media reports Mangala is around 10-15m, Ntcham is more in the £20m ballpark. We like our 10-15m signings, so Mangala could fit that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I think he'll cost a bit too much. Going by the media reports Mangala is around 10-15m, Ntcham is more in the £20m ballpark. We like our 10-15m signings, so Mangala could fit that bill. Yeah, it would be a much more sensible price bracket area if you do the maths. Will be interesting to see what snippets pop up around Europe in the next week or so. Edited 26 August, 2020 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 Have to wonder about his decision to move to Juve, by all accounts he's not a CL-level player if his only links to the Prem were us and Villa. He'll struggle for time at Juve but I expect his bank manager will be pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 It’s like DaMarcus Beasley 2004 gazumping all over again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Yeah, it would be a much more sensible price bracket area if you do the maths. Will be interesting to see what snippets pop up around Europe in the next week or so. Potentially we'll have £8m from Reed shortly, then maybe a couple of mill on a loan fee for Lemina. Then we may have enough scraped enough together to put a bid together for a player in the 10-15m bracket! I think we're hamstrung on the wages, but I don't think we have much free cash to play with either IMO. If we're honest our model has always been sell and buy, even under Koeman - we got lucky with the amount we got that window. But one or two poor transfer windows and that entire model comes crashing down like a pack of cards, as we have no one to sell to raise the funds, and lots of poor players on big money. It's a bit different at other clubs who have owners willing to invest a little though, but we don't have that and haven't really had that since Markus. Edited 26 August, 2020 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 The Hoedt/Carillo/Lemina trio are really crippling us, we will be very lucky to get rid of one of the jokers.......I would throw Forster in there too but Ralph seems happy to give him another go so we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Potentially we'll have £8m from Reed shortly, then maybe a couple of mill on a loan fee for Lemina. Then we may have enough scraped enough together to put a bid together for a player in the 10-15m bracket! I think we're hamstrung on the wages, but I don't think we have much free cash to play with either IMO. If we're honest our model has always been sell and buy, even under Koeman - we got lucky with the amount we got that window. But one or two poor transfer windows and that entire model comes crashing down like a pack of cards, as we have no one to sell to raise the funds, and lots of poor players on big money. It's a bit different at other clubs who have owners willing to invest a little though, but we don't have that and haven't really had that since Markus. Agree with all that. The poor recruitment basically stopped us in our tracks. I expect those 3 to all be loaned out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 I would think not getting Mckennie would make Reed more likely to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 7 minutes ago, labibs said: I would think not getting Mckennie would make Reed more likely to stay? Reed wants to be a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 6 minutes ago, labibs said: I would think not getting Mckennie would make Reed more likely to stay? Reports today that he's close to sealing his Fulham move. He wasn't given a squad number, so I don't expect him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 This potential signing has got all the hallmarks of a typical saints pre-season. 1. Its gets speculated that we are interested in player I've never heard of. 2. I furiously watch youtube and research articles and scout reports and anoint myself and expert on this player and league. 3. I quickly conclude that this bloke is mustard and is world star in waiting, but always we need to shift some deadwood from our wage bill first. 4. Player then goes to be a back up at a big team or ends up 10mil cheaper to some mid level german or Italian team than we were quoted 5. I revert back to my position he was overrated chancer and instead we have someone better in mind. 6. Instead we sign no one and I pretend this was always the plan to give the young players a pathway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 Carl Anka knows his stuff then, not good enough for us but off to Juventus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 5 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Reed wants to be a starter. I would be happy with him and JWP as a starting pair to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I would be happy with him and JWP as a starting pair to be honest. Then watch us get relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 3 minutes ago, northam soul said: Then watch us get relegated If we signed Kalvin Phillips people would be over the moon. Reed is a top championship midfielder just like Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: If we signed Kalvin Phillips people would be over the moon. Reed is a top championship midfielder just like Phillips. Except Reed hasn't just been called up to the England squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 17 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: €7m a year apparently, €134k a week! Laughable wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 3 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: €7m a year apparently, €134k a week! Laughable wages. I did say about wages being an issue! Very rare case of being ITK on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2020 Share Posted 26 August, 2020 Yeah I think this fella wanted massive wages from the get go. I doubt our interest ever got over the initial 'feelers' stage to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 9 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Yeah I think this fella wanted massive wages from the get go. I doubt our interest ever got over the initial 'feelers' stage to be honest. Felt massively agent driven I've got to say. Linked with everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 Every chance his career will go like Lemina's. A couple of years at Juventus as bit part player and bench warmer, before someone like Les Reed signs him and proclaims as he's come from Juventus he must be good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 16 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: €7m a year apparently, €134k a week! Laughable wages. I think Juve must be one of the few Italian teams to pay those sorts of wages. Many players in Italy would jump at the salaries offered over here. What Southampton needs is a decent Italian restaurant and a wood-fired pizzeria to attract them along with the wages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, suewhistle said: I think Juve must be one of the few Italian teams to pay those sorts of wages. Many players in Italy would jump at the salaries offered over here. What Southampton needs is a decent Italian restaurant and a wood-fired pizzeria to attract them along with the wages... https://smokeypizzasouthampton.co.uk/about-us/ 😉 Edited 27 August, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 🙂 Thanks. New on me. When the restart happens it'll be pizza and The Guide Dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 Thread over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trousers Posted 27 August, 2020 Share Posted 27 August, 2020 13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Thread over... What? A football club posting video footage of a new signing they moment they arrive in the country...? I thought the done thing was to wait several weeks before a club partakes in such brazen activities...? #wheressalisu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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