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That does make some sense - Brown was clearly a 4 day signing. That said they signed a limited overs specialist in Whitely and got two big bash specialists in, Crane by and large is supposed to be a limited over specialist too. The problem is that all those players have added nothing to our squad of last year. I still think they massively overachieved last year though and this year is showing them for the poor 20 over players they are. Like you say - if they don’t win a single limited overs game and win the championship I’ll be happy (sadly think Surrey will win it though as they are stronger). It is strange though in an era where there are seemingly an increasing number of players capable of total destruction in short periods, we don’t have many.I just want them to at least be competitive and make it exciting - it can’t be good for revenue if we’re this poor in the biggest money spinner.

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Some better batting from the openers, the rest about usual. Still, made 199/6. Pity there's no stream to watch it on today. Suppose that's because we're the only T20 game this evening and Sky or something have the monopoly.

Any sort of reasonable bowling should get us our first T20 win of the season.

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48 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Some better batting from the openers, the rest about usual. Still, made 199/6. Pity there's no stream to watch it on today. Suppose that's because we're the only T20 game this evening and Sky or something have the monopoly.

Any sort of reasonable bowling should get us our first T20 win of the season.

It's on Sky Sports crickets, I missed the opening partnership but as you say we looked average at best after that. Looked decent with the ball though, for a change. Four down now, they SHOULD see this through.

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A win !. Vince fires and we win, still a load of issues with that team, despite Vince and McDermott playing really well - yet again that middle order looked tame, and it’s telling they are now resorting to youth in Prest and Albert. Whitely should really be rested next game, but not sure for who. The bowlers finally benefited from a tough run rate and did ok - and Ellis continues to look neat and quick and rightly moved to open. Crane getting spanked again is surely another who needs a rest unless you get a spin pitch. Overall though we are pretty dependant on those two openers, if both get out cheaply there really isn’t anything else - which puts huge pressure on those two.

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Pleased to say that some of the earlier comments (including my own) haven’t aged well!  Absolute hammering we’ve given Essex today!  May not make finals day but a good couple of performances recently 

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Good batting from the openers, could have won inside 10 overs had not McDermott got out with just a few needed. Wheal still getting spanked but at least we're not playing Crane any more.  Wood, Fuller and Dawson OK, don't think Ellis played, didn't bowl for sure, Currie and Prest a little too expensive. 

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Problem is when McD and Vince go cheaply - they can’t keep carrying the side, that middle order still looks really weak. Thankfully yesterday we didn’t have to rely on Albert, Prest and Weatherly to keep the score up !

Was great to watch though, still a long way to go !!

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I was sensing Deja vu when our run rate slowed and middle order started caving, but good batting from Albert and Weatherly gave us some impetus and Essex showed it was a tough batting pitch if the bowlers were line and length. Unbelievably we are back in the mix as Somerset and Surrey running away with it leaving the rest beating each other. Fair play to Crane as well, off form but battled hard for his wicket under huge pressure.

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Just got back, good performance that overall, especially from the bowlers. Fair play to the bowlers, they all acquitted themselves well tonight, skittled Essex for exactly the same score we fell to last time I went.

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Vince is doing a real captains job in pacing innings according to pitch. Last two scores not big but they didnt chase a total not there and gave the bowlers something achievable. Wheal and Crane suddenly look like dangerous bowlers again, Prest could be a useful all rounder, Whetherly has found last years form and Albert is doing a great job. Just need Whitely to somehow get some form. Ellis also to come back (but may not regain his place..)

Keep proving me wrong Hampshire - make my post writing you off look ridiculous !!

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On 13/06/2022 at 13:59, Window Cleaner said:

Pretty grim viewing today. Yorks made over 400 and now both of our openers are gone with just 12 on the board.

Nice and consistant in the batting order after that.

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The way people have been going on, you'd have thought Surrey were about 40 points clear. The gap is 3 points, and if we were to level them we'd be ahead on number of wins. If only we hadn't done our annual roll over at the Oval... :wave: 

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8 hours ago, Hodgey said:

Fantastic win that, this team have some mental strength as they seem to constantly bounce back. Just need Surrey to slip up somehow…

We go head to head with them so it’s really in our own hands.

Missed our Abbas as that special bowler and I hope the current crop don’t burn out with overuse. 
 

I’ve actually taken a look and we don’t even play Surrey at home in the return match.

Weird one that.
 

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Yep - it’s bonkers, as there are only 8 teams in div 2 you only play 14 games, so you only play 4 teams once and for us Surrey are one of them - they win the rest of their games they win it (unless something odd goes on with bonus points). Clearly that gives some teams advantages but that’s just the luck of it. Just as bonkers as suddenly playing t20 again for a week, then back to 4 dayers…players must not know if they are coming or going !!

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3 hours ago, Pilchards said:

We go head to head with them so it’s really in our own hands.

Missed our Abbas as that special bowler and I hope the current crop don’t burn out with overuse. 
 

I’ve actually taken a look and we don’t even play Surrey at home in the return match.

Weird one that.
 

We do not play Surrey home or Lancashire away. That is trouble with only 14 games from possible 16!

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Here is a thought for debate

Reduce Championship 1st Division to 6 best teams who play every other team home and away (10 games) but it must also be the strongest players so England will need to release all their contracted players for the games.  4 days with reserve 5th day for bad weather.  Only one team relegated and one up.

the quality of each game will compensate for the loss of the additional fixtures.

In addition and as a consequence, there should only be 1 touring side for 5 Tests maximum. That touring sides should play the Championship Division 1 sides in a 4 day game and clubs told they should field their strongest squad.

That should go a long way to improving cricket in this country imo. 

As for the remaining teams? División 2 for 8 next best teams and a 3rd division for the other 4 with the strongest 4 "minor counties" as they used to be called. Alternatively the 3rd division could be a development league

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10 hours ago, Weston Saint said:

Here is a thought for debate

Reduce Championship 1st Division to 6 best teams who play every other team home and away (10 games) but it must also be the strongest players so England will need to release all their contracted players for the games.  4 days with reserve 5th day for bad weather.  Only one team relegated and one up.

the quality of each game will compensate for the loss of the additional fixtures.

In addition and as a consequence, there should only be 1 touring side for 5 Tests maximum. That touring sides should play the Championship Division 1 sides in a 4 day game and clubs told they should field their strongest squad.

That should go a long way to improving cricket in this country imo. 

As for the remaining teams? División 2 for 8 next best teams and a 3rd division for the other 4 with the strongest 4 "minor counties" as they used to be called. Alternatively the 3rd division could be a development league

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Agreed with the above comments about the current unbalanced format being ridiculous.

I prefer my idea. I may write to the ECB suggesting it to them.

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Not quite enough today, but that Surrey team has so much quality. Needed Vince or McD to stick around longer - great knock from Fuller at the end. At least it was competitive this time - now need to win the last few and hope someone else knocks Surrey out !

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Decent game that, just stalled in the middle of our batting order but Surrey have so many good players. Just for a couple of overs after Overton was stumped I dared to dream but that six off the final ball of the nineteenth killed it.

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54 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Different gravy. Need to keep this tight in case it rains and goes to DLS.

Wouldn't we need better bowling for that?

Banton and Roussow have put Somerset into an excellent position.

T20 campaign about over.

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So we need to beat Gloucester tonight to qualify for the Quarters.

Not bad after losing the first 4.

I personally would drop McDermott as his batting and wicket keeping is awful.


just realised we have another two matches to go after tonight.

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McD had a game to forget yesterday, 2 mis fields costing 8 runs and not troubling the scoreboard (after almost getting out for a golden duck). Whitely is the same, neither have contributed much this season. However both are big quick hitters and possible game winners and without them outside of Vince we don’t have many explosive players so I’d be patient with both. Also not sure we actually have a realistic alternate wk as does Brown even play T20 ? (Alsop and McManus both gone). Think both are lucky we have a very thin squad with Donald the alternative who has been even worse. On Vince - what a captain and batsman, but more players need to step up to take the pressure off him.

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Mc Dermott certainly hasn't lived up to his reputation---so far anyway.  I thought Prest did pretty well yesterday evening as well.  After that players were coming in when we were already on a big score and tried to hit everything from their first ball onwards, seemed to happen that way to Somerset as well, after Banton and Roussouw had gone.  

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17 hours ago, Pilchards said:

So we need to beat Gloucester tonight to qualify for the Quarters.

Not bad after losing the first 4.

I personally would drop McDermott as his batting and wicket keeping is awful.


just realised we have another two matches to go after tonight.

This post contained two errors.See if you can spot them all! :)
 

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After the first few games they’ve found a first 11 that complement each other. Today Vince went cheaply and they still posted a good score. The bowlers are all handy, think they’ll need to win the last two but as they play last they’ll know exactly what they need which is an (unfair but I’ll take it) advantage. 

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Now we go to the division one match with Essex.

Chelmsford showing 4 days of good weather so maybe it’s best we try to bat for at least a day and a half.

Surrey have Kent who are starting to show a little form.

Wouid be great to be league leaders with a couple of matches left, a good 10k should then support them at the ageas.

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1 minute ago, Window Cleaner said:

Toss lost, bowling first.  No Abbas again, I think they said at the last 4 day game that he was back in Pakistan for a while, these 2 games, and then should be available for the rest of the Div 1 season.

Thought Abbas was only with us the first two months.

Would be amazing to get him back towards the end of the season. 

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