Gloucester Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: We had a lot of players to move on, and as we all know, we signed a lot of our players for this season, last Summer. And in the case of BBD, Archer and even Downes, they look poor even at this level. So SR have even failed abysmally if that was their plan. Lavia and Fernandes profits are no pass for their gross negligence. 5
Osvaldorama Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: I don’t think the club reads the room at all well. On the evening we lose a generational talent, ‘one of our own’, they unveil a journeyman 3rd choice GK with an official unveiling video. If I was their director of comms I’d have done this in a low key way and probably the day after. It makes a lot more sense when you consider that absolutely no one that works at the club has even a vague idea of how to run a successful football club 7
Farmer Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said: And in the case of BBD, Archer and even Downes, they look poor even at this level. So SR have even failed abysmally if that was their plan. Lavia and Fernandes profits are no pass for their gross negligence. Absolutely, the signings were not good. They have a decent record of that, hence why we changed the structure. At the moment Spors doesn't looked to have improved it, but the window is still open for a while. 2
LGTL Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 12 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: I don’t think the club reads the room at all well. On the evening we lose a generational talent, ‘one of our own’, they unveil a journeyman 3rd choice GK with an official unveiling video. If I was their director of comms I’d have done this in a low key way and probably the day after. Agree. Their pathetic little videos will be bad enough if we ever sign someone semi competent. But for a third choice shit GK it screams incompetence. 10
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: They’re not interested in supporters or the city, it’s all high fives about the fee received for Dibling. If they can pick up a few fringe players from the German and French second divisions they can loan out to the other clubs/maybe turn a modest profit on one, happy days. If they can squeak into 6th and through the play-offs again, even better. They said when they arrived they are a player trading organisation. Which means the performances on the pitch don’t matter it’s about buying low selling high. £40m clear profit for Tyler means it’s been another summer of success 3
SNSUN Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Knowing SR way of doing business, we'll be trying to sign players right up until 11pm on deadline day when the window shuts at 7pm. 4
Toussaint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, tdmickey3 said: MLG is quiet at least He’s been summoned by Rasmus. 2
Challenger Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 16 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: I don’t think the club reads the room at all well. On the evening we lose a generational talent, ‘one of our own’, they unveil a journeyman 3rd choice GK with an official unveiling video. If I was their director of comms I’d have done this in a low key way and probably the day after. It looks like " the penny,s dropped" day today. 1
Cuddles Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 49 minutes ago, lambtiss said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c07py7jg3gjo "Obviously with the new stadium, the bin dipping here is unreal". What a twat. 1
OneMrsWallace Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I'm yet to see a reason why it is negative. I'm not sure people are saying it's just negative, but that we want to see less about very small and relatively insignificant activity and more focus on the critical signings that Saints need and for which they have had months to sort out. Because if SR don't do the latter, we're screwed and these deals mean nothing. 1
bugenhagen Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I have every confidence that SR and Spors will get this right... 1
Raging Bull Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Cuddles said: "Obviously with the new stadium, the bin dipping here is unreal". What a twat. Do you need a cuddle?
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Raging Bull said: Do you need a cuddle? Must be Orville's night with with Keith Harris 1
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: It's only wafer thin So about these other benefits we’ve seen of the multi club setup…. 1 3
East Kent Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago All in all it looks like another long season for Saints fans 🙄
lambtiss Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Turkish said: So about these other benefits we’ve seen of the multi club setup…. Benefits like two relegations and others so huge that Solak has had to effectively sack the management team and start from scratch with Spors? 2
BARCELONASAINT Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Suhari said: I'll put a call in to my old uni buddy, 'The Beastmaster'. I'm confident he'll find out how well she commands her box. There's not a chance in hell i'm going anywhere near her box! 1
Alain Perrin Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Clearly Spertseyen or however you spell it was the first choice to soften the blow of Dibling, and you can't really blame the club for how that turned out. Crazy scenario visible only to those with 20:20 hindsight. Signing people is much harder than it appears to us fans, there's agents, managers, preferences and many, many other things in the mix. That's something the guys are Wrexham can dangle - a bit of Netflix exposure to help your brand seals. Someone previously mentioned Archer and BBD as failures, for the Premiership maybe - although they'd seem top signings in the Championship if we brought them in now based on the record they had. I'm not suggesting they're the answer now, only that there are factors about how a player performs which can mean they perform completely differently in a new club or system. Not saying SR haven't screwed up signings... But I reckon there would be some who'd find fault if we'd signed Messi (too short, can he do it on a wet Tuesday in Norwich etc.) 1 2
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, Alain Perrin said: Clearly Spertseyen or however you spell it was the first choice to soften the blow of Dibling, and you can't really blame the club for how that turned out. Crazy scenario visible only to those with 20:20 hindsight. Signing people is much harder than it appears to us fans, there's agents, managers, preferences and many, many other things in the mix. That's something the guys are Wrexham can dangle - a bit of Netflix exposure to help your brand seals. Someone previously mentioned Archer and BBD as failures, for the Premiership maybe - although they'd seem top signings in the Championship if we brought them in now based on the record they had. I'm not suggesting they're the answer now, only that there are factors about how a player performs which can mean they perform completely differently in a new club or system. Not saying SR haven't screwed up signings... But I reckon there would be some who'd find fault if we'd signed Messi (too short, can he do it on a wet Tuesday in Norwich etc.) I love that line. Signing players is just as hard as it is for every other championship club. In actual fact it's a darn sight easier for us given how many resources we have compared to the majority of the rest of the league 7
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, lambtiss said: Benefits like two relegations and others so huge that Solak has had to effectively sack the management team and start from scratch with Spors? We got a £1m player for £5m in January, who we’ve just loaned out for the season to the French second division. Any others? 1 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, East Kent Saint said: All in all it looks like another long season for Saints fans 🙄 I haven’t been enjoying the matches for some time even on TV/streams and stopped going in person having been a long time STH. Wrexham was an exciting finish but not a good performance. If they can’t bring in some eye catching players worth watching for this level by COP Friday and it’s still 5 at the back, I may well be taking a break for a while from football as Cheltenham are grim as well.
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: I love that line. Signing players is just as hard as it is for every other championship club. In actual fact it's a darn sight easier for us given how many resources we have compared to the majority of the rest of the league Funny isn’t it. The same rules apply to everyone but it’s always harder for us. Plus we are the only club to have to pay those damn agents fees 1
S-Clarke Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Alain Perrin said: Clearly Spertseyen or however you spell it was the first choice to soften the blow of Dibling, and you can't really blame the club for how that turned out. Crazy scenario visible only to those with 20:20 hindsight. Signing people is much harder than it appears to us fans, there's agents, managers, preferences and many, many other things in the mix. That's something the guys are Wrexham can dangle - a bit of Netflix exposure to help your brand seals. Someone previously mentioned Archer and BBD as failures, for the Premiership maybe - although they'd seem top signings in the Championship if we brought them in now based on the record they had. I'm not suggesting they're the answer now, only that there are factors about how a player performs which can mean they perform completely differently in a new club or system. Not saying SR haven't screwed up signings... But I reckon there would be some who'd find fault if we'd signed Messi (too short, can he do it on a wet Tuesday in Norwich etc.) Signing players isn't as easy as it sounds on FM, 100% - that's why we've appointed analysts, scouts, and highly paid DoF's to use their expertise to navigate the murky world of football transfers. If it was as truly difficult as others make out, no clubs would ever sign players. It's the same as the excuse ''We'll only sign players if they improve us'' - it's weak nonsense. If they can't find better than the poor players already in the squad then they're not very good at their job. 8
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Turkish said: We got a £1m player for £5m in January, who we’ve just loaned out for the season to the French second division. Any others? That deal was/if iffy as fuck. I remember MLG saying it was perfectly fine, you know, signing a players from our sister club of an underserved massive fee. 1
Osvaldorama Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Alain Perrin said: Clearly Spertseyen or however you spell it was the first choice to soften the blow of Dibling, and you can't really blame the club for how that turned out. Crazy scenario visible only to those with 20:20 hindsight. Signing people is much harder than it appears to us fans, there's agents, managers, preferences and many, many other things in the mix. That's something the guys are Wrexham can dangle - a bit of Netflix exposure to help your brand seals. Someone previously mentioned Archer and BBD as failures, for the Premiership maybe - although they'd seem top signings in the Championship if we brought them in now based on the record they had. I'm not suggesting they're the answer now, only that there are factors about how a player performs which can mean they perform completely differently in a new club or system. Not saying SR haven't screwed up signings... But I reckon there would be some who'd find fault if we'd signed Messi (too short, can he do it on a wet Tuesday in Norwich etc.) Evening Rasmus, nice of the club to comment on such a shite evening for the fans
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Azaz will sign in the next few days. We will get a winger or two on loan from the prem and maybe a Smallbone replacement and that will be it. I'd be pretty disappointed with that, especially when Fernandes goes by the end of the week.
Farmer Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: I haven’t been enjoying the matches for some time even on TV/streams and stopped going in person having been a long time STH. Wrexham was an exciting finish but not a good performance. If they can’t bring in some eye catching players worth watching for this level by COP Friday and it’s still 5 at the back, I may well be taking a break for a while from football as Cheltenham are grim as well. Anybody who lets a football team seriously affect their day to day, needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. I hope if you do take a break you find a way to enjoy it when we're good, and shrug when we're bad. There are far more important things in life, and it's why I find the ridiculous reactions on this forum such a sad state of affairs. Perspective, perspective, perspective... 4
lambtiss Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: We got a £1m player for £5m in January, who we’ve just loaned out for the season to the French second division. Any others? pre-tax loss of £87 million for the 2022-23 financial year?
saintant Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Chez said: Saints signed Aaron Ramsdale August 30th 2024. At the time of Bazunu's achilles injury we could have signed Johansson in Apr 2024 for £900k and low wages. How much did we pay for Ramsdale and what was his annual wage? Do you think not signing Johansson when we had the opportunity then panic buying Ramsdale was good business sense by SR? Edited 12 hours ago by saintant 1
TheSoundman Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Funny isn’t it. The same rules apply to everyone but it’s always harder for us. Plus we are the only club to have to pay those damn agents fees It is difficult signing players, which is why 95% of all clubs fans are bitching about their transfer windows so far. But SR have f*cked up royally so far. 4 days to put that right.
James Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Azaz will sign in the next few days. We will get a winger or two on loan from the prem and maybe a Smallbone replacement and that will be it. I'd be pretty disappointed with that, especially when Fernandes goes by the end of the week. If we sell Fernandes and only bring in Azaz and a winger or two on loan it will have been an absolutely horrific transfer window. 2
Farmer Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Signing players isn't as easy as it sounds on FM, 100% - that's why we've appointed analysts, scouts, and highly paid DoF's to use their expertise to navigate the murky world of football transfers. If it was as truly difficult as others make out, no clubs would ever sign players. It's the same as the excuse ''We'll only sign players if they improve us'' - it's weak nonsense. If they can't find better than the poor players already in the squad then they're not very good at their job. You have all those on FM, and if you've played it recently they only tend to recommend horseshit players as well.
S-Clarke Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Azaz will sign in the next few days. We will get a winger or two on loan from the prem and maybe a Smallbone replacement and that will be it. I'd be pretty disappointed with that, especially when Fernandes goes by the end of the week. Azaz would be a good pickup. I think we'll get two wide players too, as Still keeps referencing a 'few'. I think another 3 signings is what we'll get in the next week, assuming no one else leaves. 1
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, James said: If we sell Fernandes and only bring in Azaz and a winger or two on loan it will have been an absolutely horrific transfer window. Maybe we will get a winger in from a foreign league permanently. Still don't think that's enough personally to avoid condemning us to another season in this league. 2
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: That deal was/if iffy as fuck. I remember MLG saying it was perfectly fine, you know, signing a players from our sister club of an underserved massive fee. Course he said it was okay, he’s programmed to back up the club whatever they do it was a dodgy as fuck deal, one of the highest transfer fees ever for a 3rd tier French club. You can build a quality team with £5m in the French 3rd division, get them promoted and increase their value and therefore the value of the overall group. it’s seems like the other clubs in the group are doing very well out of it, money coming and and plenty of players signed by us and loaned or sold to them. We have had lots of benefits though just no one can think of any 2 2
Saint Since '51 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Including Sugi and Sanda loans (and ABK - even though that one not confirmed), I make that 11 gone (sold, loan ended or contract ended) 7 out on loan. So, even before we bring anyone else in, the first team squad is still 27 (not counting Ballard and Sesay). Plenty of work to do (Edozie, Aribo, Smallbone, ??, ??, ??) to make room for incomings.
Alain Perrin Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Evening Rasmus, nice of the club to comment on such a shite evening for the fans Please keep my identity secret..... My joining the forum in 2006 is the definition of the long game... 2 3
Harry_SFC Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TheSoundman said: It is difficult signing players, which is why 95% of all clubs fans are bitching about their transfer windows so far. But SR have f*cked up royally so far. 4 days to put that right. Don't want to seem pedantic but isn't it 7 days left? 1
Farmer Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Azaz would be a good pickup. I think we'll get two wide players too, as Still keeps referencing a 'few'. I think another 3 signings is what we'll get in the next week, assuming no one else leaves. Aribo, Suga, Edozie, ABK will also be off. Fernandes won't currently. We want two wingers and an attacking mid. Loans are last, last, last resort for first team players. Edited 12 hours ago by Farmer Saint
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Azaz would be a good pickup. I think we'll get two wide players too, as Still keeps referencing a 'few'. I think another 3 signings is what we'll get in the next week, assuming no one else leaves. If Aribo and Smallbone go we are surely replacing them with someone. Presumably someone cheap to give Downes or Charles a rest.
skintsaint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: Don't want to seem pedantic but isn't it 7 days left? 7pm next Monday I think it slams shut.
Eric The Red Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, Harry_SFC said: Don't want to seem pedantic but isn't it 7 days left? Correct, transfer window closes 7pm on Monday 1st September
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, skintsaint said: 7pm next Monday I think it slams shut.
TheSoundman Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Not seen the Smallbone to Wrexham (rumour) for £7.5million mentioned, but given there's been about 1000 posts in the last few hours it may have been somewhere. Re transfer window closing... my bad. Thought it was Friday, but that would be sensible so should have known it wasn't... Edited 12 hours ago by TheSoundman Additional
Gloucester Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Anybody who lets a football team seriously affect their day to day, needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. I hope if you do take a break you find a way to enjoy it when we're good, and shrug when we're bad. There are far more important things in life, and it's why I find the ridiculous reactions on this forum such a sad state of affairs. Perspective, perspective, perspective... Enjoyed it very much 09-17, great times, matches, atmospheres and it’s a bit like gambling I guess, once the fun stops, take a break. I don’t even mind us being bad, we all laughed at Claus’s OG at Goodison in the away end in 99. We’ve all got stories about away hammerings in the 90s…and find them funny. 🤣 It’s the slowness, the lack of energy, the lack of purpose on display. I lose concentration after a few minutes watching us, tuck into a book and then something finally happens and I look up again. It’s boredom. WGS teams were not the best technically but I always was glued to them from my seat in the Kingsland because they were always at teams. Ditto Nigel, Poch, Ronald. Maybe it’ll get better but it’s been on a long cycle now. Even 05-09, there were moments and pockets of hope, little cameos from Lallana, Stern John, Saganowski. Edited 12 hours ago by Gloucester Saint 1
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Azaz would be a good pickup. I think we'll get two wide players too, as Still keeps referencing a 'few'. I think another 3 signings is what we'll get in the next week, assuming no one else leaves. Azaz is indeed what I would call a good signing but he's about what I'd expect us to sign so nothing extraordinarily impressive about it. 4
Willo of Whiteley Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: We've also had other benefits from the multi club setup. 56 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Name three? And three that we’ve benefitted from so far? Still waiting… It seems MLG hasn’t replied to a few who have asked this or similar. 🤣 Feels more like a club plant every day. 😂
skintsaint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheSoundman said: Not seen the Smallbone to Wrexham (rumour) for £7.5million mentioned, but given there's been about 1000 posts in the last few hours it may have been somewhere. SR are good at getting good fees for players leaving. Bully for them.
S-Clarke Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Azaz is indeed what I would call a good signing but he's about what I'd expect us to sign so nothing extraordinarily impressive about it. I'd like us to go all in to get Tom Fellows too, he's the sort of player we need. Azaz, Fellows, that winger from Germany - keep everything else we have, and that will be it. If we lose Smallbone then we'll get a CM too. 5
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