Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Not with us.

So what? Still shows they have been capable of being prolific in the league we will be in.

[Appy]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

So what? Still shows they have been capable of being prolific in the league we will be in.

How many have Armstrong and Brereton Diaz scored on their loan spells?

[Matthew Le God]

On 22/05/2025 at 16:52, Appy said:

How many have Armstrong and Brereton Diaz scored on their loan spells?

Not many, due to a combination of not being played in their best roles and injuries. Armstrong was prolific for us as recently as last season playing in the right. We played them in a more effective way than West Brom did.

Edited 16 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Appy]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Not many, due to a combination of not being played in their best roles and injuries. 

Just “not many” will suffice, thanks 

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Appy said:

Just “not many” will suffice, thanks 

Yes, we know you aren't a fan of context. Headlines suffice for you.

[Appy]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Yes, we know you aren't a fan of context. Headlines suffice for you.

What are you on about? 
 

Those forwards you mentioned being rubbish mean I only like headlines? Your computer game having a year off has melted your weird brain. 

[Fabrice29]

43 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Armstrong, Brereton-Díaz, Stewart and Archer have all had prolific spells in the Championship. I think Onuachu would as well.

Anyone who says they want to watch Onuachu for us ever again needs locking up. Anyone who says we shouldn't sign another striker and they would be happy to watch a season of a combination of that 5 again also needs locking up.

On an individual basis I could get behind Archer, Stewart or Armstrong again, barely Diaz but if I had to I would but that being our whole strike force would be insanity. Not because they wouldn't do well necessarily but if Spors is talking about energising the club again, it has to look and feel different next year and the strike force could and should be at the forefront of that.

Edited Thursday at 16:03 by Fabrice29

[Lighthouse]

12 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Anyone who says they want to watch Onuachu for us ever again needs locking up. Anyone who says we shouldn't sign another striker and they would be happy to watch a season of a combination of that 5 again also needs locking up.

On an individual basis I could get behind Archer, Stewart or Armstrong again, barely Diaz but if I had to I would but that being our whole strike force would be insanity. Not because they wouldn't do well necessarily but if Spors is talking about energising the club again, it has to look and feel different next year and the strike force could and should be at the forefront of that.

We need to spend far more attention, not to mention money, on our creative midfielders and fullbacks this summer. Fernandes will be off and most likely Lallana and Fraser will too. I'd want better than Sully, Dibling and Edozie, assuming they stick around, to provide the supply.

[Weston Super Saint]

35 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

So what? Still shows they have been capable of being prolific in the league we will be in.

Maybe your second post can answer your so what? Question...

32 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Not many, due to a combination of not being played in their best roles and injuries. 

Not like we've got history of playing our players out of position is it? Remember the magical Unicorn shoe formation?

[Wade Garrett]

Armstrong had a poor loan spell at West Brom, Diaz did nothing at Sheffield Utd.  Onuachu is up there with the very worst footballers I’ve ever seen.

Stewart?  Who knows.  Archer, I think there’s a player there but it’s down to Still to get the best from him.

We should be trying to get some of these out the door.

[ErwinK1961]

46 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

We need to spend far more attention, not to mention money, on our creative midfielders and fullbacks this summer. Fernandes will be off and most likely Lallana and Fraser will too. I'd want better than Sully, Dibling and Edozie, assuming they stick around, to provide the supply.

We absolutely do not need to spend more attention/money on fullbacks than strikers. We haven’t bought a good one for 11 years (maybe being harsh on Gabbiadini).

Agree with you on attacking midfielders though.

 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Anyone who says they want to watch Onuachu for us ever again needs locking up. Anyone who says we shouldn't sign another striker and they would be happy to watch a season of a combination of that 5 again also needs locking up.

On an individual basis I could get behind Archer, Stewart or Armstrong again, barely Diaz but if I had to I would but that being our whole strike force would be insanity. Not because they wouldn't do well necessarily but if Spors is talking about energising the club again, it has to look and feel different next year and the strike force could and should be at the forefront of that.

I wholeheartedly agree with Fabrice!

 

[Matthew Le God]

22 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

We absolutely do not need to spend more attention/money on fullbacks than strikers. We haven’t bought a good one for 11 years (maybe being harsh on Gabbiadini).

Danny Ings was the Premier League 2nd top scorer in the 2019/20 season!

[ErwinK1961]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Danny Ings was the Premier League 2nd top scorer in the 2019/20 season!

FFS, knew I’d forgotten one 🤦‍♂️ 

One good striker in 11 years will have to do.

[Lighthouse]

58 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

We absolutely do not need to spend more attention/money on fullbacks than strikers. We haven’t bought a good one for 11 years (maybe being harsh on Gabbiadini).

Agree with you on attacking midfielders though.

 

Up front we have AA, BBD, CA and RS (I'm going to hope and assume PO leaves)

At FB we have CT, JB, RM, JL and maybe Welly.

I'd say the latter list is considerably weaker at Championship level.

[ErwinK1961]

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Up front we have AA, BBD, CA and RS (I'm going to hope and assume PO leaves)

At FB we have CT, JB, RM, JL and maybe Welly.

I'd say the latter list is considerably weaker at Championship level.

Only RS is a proper centre forward and he cannot be relied on to stay fit for more than 3 games at a time.

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, ErwinK1961 said:

Only RS is a proper centre forward and he cannot be relied on to stay fit for more than 3 games at a time.

Yep, since Che we’ve had no focal point to play off and hold up. Bar Stewart, with a cameo role.

[SNSUN]

On 21/05/2025 at 10:33, Lighthouse said:

I’m not sure why we’d accept less than £30m for THB, which is what we got for JWP, who was on the fringes of the England squad and a few years older. As it happens I’m not convinced anyone will pay that this summer and think there’s a reasonable chance he might stay, likewise Dibling.

If anyone pays anything for any of our players, outside of possibly Ramsdale and Fernandes, they're fucking stupid. Not one bollock between the rest of them.

There, I said it. (Possibly not soberly).

[Smirking_Saint]

However you spin it we’ve effectively got 8 forwards on the books, not including Ballard or Robinson

We’ll simply have to sell a number of these if we want to bring a decent option in

We’ve somehow got a more bloated squad of duff then we did under the Gao days

[gio1saints]

I saw BBD do ONE good thing - score that goal v Lazio, but other than that every match he played for Saints I was perplexed. 

He came with a BIG reputation but did nothing.
 

Played at left wing by RM in our style was a mistake - obviously - but all he did was literally try to compete for high balls and pass the ball backwards to any passes he received. Never took a player on. Never tried a shot. Never put in a through ball. Rarely put in a winning challenge in a fifty fifty.  Just took up a position wide left on the field. We could have put a dustbin in there and it might have been just as effective - though it would have covered marginally less distance on the pitch with work rate ( what’s that?) than BBD.  The ONLY good thing he did was find a cheating way to get the barcodes player sent off then laugh at the afters.

Literally that is his highlights reel. 

Please buy him Sheff Utd! 

NB: He has NO pace no tricks and cannot dribble past his man neither can he outmuscle his defender nor win a header. He is not a shoot on sight selfish striker attacker but neither is he a selfless assist machine. And the only off the ball runs he makes are at start and end of the game entering field of play them back to the showers. He does not use his experience to talk and mentor others through the game and his example is precisely of what NOT to do. What IS a BBD? 
 

PS. I suppose that’s what you get for £35k pw. But seriously,  £35k per week for doing nothing???? FFS! 

Edited Friday at 07:51 by gio1saints

[Gloucester Saint]

9 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

However you spin it we’ve effectively got 8 forwards on the books, not including Ballard or Robinson

We’ll simply have to sell a number of these if we want to bring a decent option in

We’ve somehow got a more bloated squad of duff then we did under the Gao days

Incredible level of failure and ineptitude. Onachu will go I think but Dragan will take a substantial bath on the fee. Sulemana ditto I’d have thought. BBD was a low fee so they might be able to shift him to an ambitious club coming up like Wrexham who can pay the wages on a nominal fee and the Hollywood connection might appeal to players with Champ track record. RS with us for the final year as no takers with his fitness record and AA is the one I’d actively keep, along with Archer. That would generate headroom for a hold-up/target striker which we need alongside forwards like Archer and AA. RS is the rotation/David Connolly cameo option for the new target striker.

Any fee losses pale by comparison to writing off the bulk of final year/two years of Bazanu and Larios’s wages on lower league loans but that’s Dragan’s learning for Rasmus and Kraft pulling his trousers down. 

Edited Friday at 07:54 by Gloucester Saint

[trousers]

25 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

(BBD) Played at left wing by RM in our style was a mistake - obviously - but all he did was literally try to compete for high balls and pass the ball backwards to any passes he received. Never took a player on. Never tried a shot. Never put in a through ball

And there was me thinking he was instructed to play that way by the manager... That's twice I've been wrong so far today... Fingers crossed for third time lucky...! 

Edited Friday at 08:07 by trousers

[Lighthouse]

53 minutes ago, trousers said:

And there was me thinking he was instructed to play that way by the manager... That's twice I've been wrong so far today... Fingers crossed for third time lucky...! 

Given that said manager subbed him off after an hour of our fourth game of the season and he hasn’t started a game since, you would have to assume not.

[Saint Fan CaM]

48 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Given that said manager subbed him off after an hour of our fourth game of the season and he hasn’t started a game since, you would have to assume not.

Just one example of many within the bizarre nature of this season. Like a recurring nightmare that you wake up from thinking its real.

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Given that said manager subbed him off after an hour of our fourth game of the season and he hasn’t started a game since, you would have to assume not.

Remind me who was the manager that signed him

Edited Friday at 10:13 by tdmickey3

[BERMUDASAINT]

Shakland in ?

https://www.givemesport.com/southampton-want-to-sign-prolific-striker-with-68-goals-in-137-games/

Fofana in ?

https://saintsmarching.com/will-still-can-relieve-aaron-ramsdale-headache-at-southampton

Fernades out for 30 mil ????

https://the72.co.uk/2025/05/23/leeds-united-target-southampton-star-mateus-fernandes/

[Barsiem]

7 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

Shakland in ?

https://www.givemesport.com/southampton-want-to-sign-prolific-striker-with-68-goals-in-137-games/

Fofana in ?

https://saintsmarching.com/will-still-can-relieve-aaron-ramsdale-headache-at-southampton

Fernades out for 30 mil ????

https://the72.co.uk/2025/05/23/leeds-united-target-southampton-star-mateus-fernandes/

Nonsense price.  This reeks of the Lavia situation whereby we were apparently looking for peanuts but actually wanted (and got) £60m

[hypochondriac]

Anyone else excited to get a whole load of new players, potentially with a bit more mettle and mental strength than the current lot?

Losing Fernandes is a shame but literally everyone else can leave and I'm good with it unlike last time when losing Lavia, livramento and especially JWP was properly gutting. 

We should have the resources to get some of the best championship players and really dominate a few in this league. I know there's a lot of unknowns but I'd really love to be challenging for the title as we've never done that before. 

[Teamsaint1]

36 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

Shakland in ?

https://www.givemesport.com/southampton-want-to-sign-prolific-striker-with-68-goals-in-137-games/

Fofana in ?

https://saintsmarching.com/will-still-can-relieve-aaron-ramsdale-headache-at-southampton

Fernades out for 30 mil ????

https://the72.co.uk/2025/05/23/leeds-united-target-southampton-star-mateus-fernandes/

We’d be out of our minds to take £30m. With a 4 year contract and at his age the bidding starts at £50m I would say.

And he can get an established PL slot as a starter, and likely a top 6 ( or whatever it is now) and European football.

He has a lot of admirers. The only issue would be a low release clause and no bidding war, but can’t see that happening. 

[hypochondriac]

I still think in the long run Dibling would benefit his career enormously by staying with us for a season in the Championship even though I doubt he will. 

[UpweySaint]

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I still think in the long run Dibling would benefit his career enormously by staying with us for a season in the Championship even though I doubt he will. 

I think it’s certainly possible he stays next season. The £100mil is clearly posture but I expect our valuation of Tyler is a fair wedge. He’s not the finished article by any means so it would be a brave team to commit the type of fee we would be comfortable selling with on what is mostly potential at this stage. I don’t know what our figure is - and there are always all sorts of add-ons and contingencies- but I would be surprised if we settled for much less than a fee rising to upper 30s to 40s.

Throw in PSR wrangles and the domestic for Tyler isn’t massive. With Champions League qualification I could possibly see Spurs putting a very structured deal together but otherwise I am struggling to see who else would be willing to part with enough of their budget to force our hand. 

I don’t know enough about the financial situation of the Bundesliga but several clubs have been linked - I guess that is a possibility but again I think at the price we (hopefully) hold out for Tyler is a big gamble. Quite possibly one worth taking but a gamble nonetheless…

A good season as a regular starter in the championship and a new deal with a big wage jump and a reasonable release clause might suit all parties.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Anyone else excited to get a whole load of new players, potentially with a bit more mettle and mental strength than the current lot?

Losing Fernandes is a shame but literally everyone else can leave and I'm good with it unlike last time when losing Lavia, livramento and especially JWP was properly gutting. 

We should have the resources to get some of the best championship players and really dominate a few in this league. I know there's a lot of unknowns but I'd really love to be challenging for the title as we've never done that before. 

I'm always excited about the summer window, but it's tapered by the knowledge that we have to shift quite a few players first. We have so many players in certain positions. We have CBs coming out our ears, four left backs and numerous strikers that none of us fancy.

[Chez]

45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I still think in the long run Dibling would benefit his career enormously by staying with us for a season in the Championship even though I doubt he will. 

Feels very similar to the Jack Grealish situation when Villa went down. He showed flashes of brilliance in the PL, but needed to do it week in week out. I might be wrong, but I think Dibling's early season performances might have caught the eye more than what Grealish did in the couple of season in the OL before they were relegated. Whether its enough to justofy the fee we will be looking for, we will have to see. Clearly he can play in the PL, so he will be wanted. The question is, how much.

[Chez]

14 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

However you spin it we’ve effectively got 8 forwards on the books, not including Ballard or Robinson

We’ll simply have to sell a number of these if we want to bring a decent option in

We’ve somehow got a more bloated squad of duff then we did under the Gao days

Yep. I wonder who is going to buy them though?

At the time, I thought we should have perhaps sold Archer to Leeds, assuming they made a decent offer, but that ship will have sailed. I can't imagine AA or BBD will particularly want to return having been shoved out on loan, but perhaps a new manager will make them feel at home? If not, at least they will be keen for a move and wont dig their heals in. Onuachu is another that wont dig his heals in, but the offer has to be right, otherwise the club won't sell - we have seen that several times already.

[tdmickey3]

6 minutes ago, Chez said:

Feels very similar to the Jack Grealish situation when Villa went down. He showed flashes of brilliance in the PL, but needed to do it week in week out. I might be wrong, but I think Dibling's early season performances might have caught the eye more than what Grealish did in the couple of season in the OL before they were relegated. Whether its enough to justofy the fee we will be looking for, we will have to see. Clearly he can play in the PL, so he will be wanted. The question is, how much.

We might need the rag and bone man for  few of them

 

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, Chez said:

I'm always excited about the summer window, but it's tapered by the knowledge that we have to shift quite a few players first. We have so many players in certain positions. We have CBs coming out our ears, four left backs and numerous strikers that none of us fancy.

Bednarek is definitely going. ABK we can hopefully shift on loan. THB will have suitors in the prem so shouldn't be too hard to shift other than maybe ABK. It will all work out. 

[Chez]

19 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Agree with you on attacking midfielders though.

Likewise. We need to add some flair, especially if Dibling and Fernandes depart. If they don't, then we have Dibling, Fraser, Sulemana and Edozie. So, will the club look to shift a couple in order to free space to bring someone in?

[Chez]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Bednarek is definitely going. ABK we can hopefully shift on loan. THB will have suitors in the prem so shouldn't be too hard to shift other than maybe ABK. It will all work out. 

Looking forward to an interesting summer then. 
Hopefully this reboot will have the same success as Burnleys last summer, only with added goals.

[Andrew Watson]

Shankland is not good enough, like Kris Boyd he has scored plenty of goals in Scotland  and that is his limit. If he was any good Rangers or Celtic would have signed him. In the championship in England Boyd scored 1 every 3 games and was loaned out by Boro. If we sign Shankland it would more than likely be a total disaster,assuming the rumours are true,of course.

Would like to see Sargent and Sainz or Rudoni,as a sign of intent.

[hypochondriac]

25 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said:

Shankland is not good enough, like Kris Boyd he has scored plenty of goals in Scotland  and that is his limit. If he was any good Rangers or Celtic would have signed him. In the championship in England Boyd scored 1 every 3 games and was loaned out by Boro. If we sign Shankland it would more than likely be a total disaster,assuming the rumours are true,of course.

Would like to see Sargent and Sainz or Rudoni,as a sign of intent.

I'd love Sainz but I can't believe a prem team wouldn't be in for him. 

[Lighthouse]

3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Remind me who was the manager that signed him

A manager didn't sign him, the club did.

[Badger]

36 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said:

Would like to see Sargent and Sainz or Rudoni,as a sign of intent.

Interesting names.
 

Of the three I think only Sargent might be attainable. I think he’s quite underrated actually, opposition fans see a tall bloke with a mop of ginger hair and that’s it. But he’s scored a few for Norwich, seems to get through a lot of work for the team (and  caused us a few problems didn’t he at St Mary’s).Yes, old fashioned but a good centre forward would go a long way to improving things. 

Sainz - bound to have other offers so probably won’t want to stay in the Championship.

Rudoni - why leave Coventry for us ? More £ perhaps but are we better placed for next season? 
 

Interesting thing for me is that Norwich and Coventry signed Sainz and Rudoni for very little. ( Rudoni from Huddersfield). Just goes to show there are some good players out there if you get your scouting right.

[tdmickey3]

4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

A manager didn't sign him, the club did.

Correct just like they signed Manning, Downes, Fraser at Martin`s request but I guess he didn't have say in BBD?

[Lighthouse]

14 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Correct just like they signed Manning, Downes, Fraser at Martin`s request but I guess he didn't have say in BBD?

Not a Scooby Doo how much involvement he had in that. Downes and Manning were both very reasonable signings at the time. Fraser was a free, albeit a useless one.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, tdmickey3 said:

Correct just like they signed Manning, Downes, Fraser at Martin`s request but I guess he didn't have say in BBD?

Both BBD and Archer had the stamp of a club seeing it's top targets not want to arrive, and desperately going down the list shortly before the deadline.

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Both BBD and Archer had the stamp of a club seeing it's top targets not want to arrive, and desperately going down the list shortly before the deadline.

100%. Everyone knows we wanted the bloke from Celtic and Delap and when they turned us down we didn't really have anywhere else to turn. 

[sockeye]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

100%. Everyone knows we wanted the bloke from Celtic and Delap and when they turned us down we didn't really have anywhere else to turn. 

SR do this every window it feels like, remember Gakpo?

Worrying as it feels like they are unable to conclude negotiations effectively.

Edited Friday at 15:56 by sockeye

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, sockeye said:

SR do this every window it feels like, remember Gakpo?

Worrying as it feels like they are unable to conclude negotiations effectively.

Or we want the one target but don't really have a more comprehensive list for when it doesn't work out. Hopefully Spors will make things better on that front. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

100%. Everyone knows we wanted the bloke from Celtic and Delap and when they turned us down we didn't really have anywhere else to turn. 

Neither BBD or Archer met Martin's requirements.

While all of the backroom rebuilding and refocusing is fine, it means nothing if the decision makers are not engaging with a manager who has the strength of character to drive them.

SR have wasted many millions on a number of flawed ideas, that have turned us from a Premier League club needing support, to a Championship club needing an overhaul.

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Or we want the one target but don't really have a more comprehensive list for when it doesn't work out. Hopefully Spors will make things better on that front. 

This is why I always hate the common get out clubs make in transfer windows.

''If they're not better than what we've got, then we will not panic''

If the scouts aren't finding better than the likes of Adam Armstrong, Smallbone, Fraser, Edozie etc then the problem is with them, not that there's no one better out there. It's a common get out clubs use, such as us, and it basically equates to them saying ''we are absolutley shit at scouting, we've picked a couple of good players, if we can't get them we have no where else to turn''.