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1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

It is what would satisfy you though isn’t it? Because he played an hour or so in a ridiculously defensive set up against Man City just 2 weeks ago were he, and everyone else, was asked to play a disciplined game in which they could barely press beyond the half way line and yet you’re out here questioning his attitude. 

You're picking one game as if that ends the discussion with a slam dunk. I'm talking about a pattern over the course of half a season or more. 

I get that he's 19 and is not the finished article yet. I get that he's not a box-to-box, all energy player. I get that he's been playing in a poor side and there has been upheaval. 

However, I think there have been numerous occasions this season where he has looked disinterested or could have done more to help the team. You clearly disagree, and that's fine. 

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30 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

All very fair points. 

Another question of course is generally how he would fit into a high-energy, high-pressing style of the sort that Still will apparently demand. The manager is going to need to see a lot of work off the ball from any player in that set-up. 

It's all probably moot though tbh, because the club seem to see him as their quickest and easiest way of raising funds this summer, so I think if he wants to go, then if someone comes in with anything £50/55m+ then he'll be straight off. I'm not entirely clear who would be ready to spend even that sort of money on him though, let alone the silly £100m figure that the club put out there. On the surface there's not an obvious club who would leap at his languid style + what he's proven so far + what it would be likely to cost them, and who also have an obvious need for a player like him. Especially considering he's already been burned by the 'squad player at a big club' experience at Chelsea which didn't work for him at all. 

Don't disagree. I just don't think he's worth what we would ask for him. 

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Posted
45 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Don't want Keane anywhere near Saints, would rather stick with what we have. There's a reason why he's never been a regular for Everton. He's looked terrible every time I've watched him and scores own goals for fun.

The last time we took one of Everton's unwanted CBs for a season in the Championship it was disaster. I've watched a lot of Everton over recent years, and Keane is no better than Holgate IMO. When they played together as a pair, not even Pickford could save their blushes.

No thanks.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

You're picking one game as if that ends the discussion with a slam dunk. I'm talking about a pattern over the course of half a season or more. 

I get that he's 19 and is not the finished article yet. I get that he's not a box-to-box, all energy player. I get that he's been playing in a poor side and there has been upheaval. 

However, I think there have been numerous occasions this season where he has looked disinterested or could have done more to help the team. You clearly disagree, and that's fine. 

I think I just find it a bit mad that people can make wild conclusions, assumptions or theories about people’s attitude because of some small moments in games. But yes, we disagree. 

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If we're talking about CBs, Tanganga would be perfect. He's a monster in the air so would be a big threat at set-pieces which Still's teams are so strong on, great in the tackle and very athletic. Shouldn't cost too much either as his release clause is only a few million. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

If we're talking about CBs, Tanganga would be perfect. He's a monster in the air so would be a big threat at set-pieces which Still's teams are so strong on, great in the tackle and very athletic. Shouldn't cost too much either as his release clause is only a few million. 

Wanted us to sign him from Spurs. A couple of the promoted clubs might be sniffing but the fact they’re all in the north might help. 

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Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I think I just find it a bit mad that people can make wild conclusions, assumptions or theories about people’s attitude because of some small moments in games. But yes, we disagree. 

Cool. I find it weird that some people only ever relentlessly trot out the club's party line, and attack anyone who challenges it, almost like they have some sort of vested interest in doing so. 

But hey, isn't it nice that we can agree to disagree like grown-ups. 

Have a great day. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Not sure why everyone is writing off THB, Id fully expect him to be one of the best CBs in the champ again, and surely we’re unlikely to replace him with someone much better, as well as nobody is going to pay the 20m+ we’d want

Personally Id like to keep him, just play him in a 4 back.. ive noticed he struggles hardest in a 3 CB formation 

 

Good ball player, bang average defender. Exposed many a time this season. Thinks hes better than he is. 

Get rid if anyone is willing to offer any more than what we paid. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, disconnect said:

Nottingham Forest have spunked £40 million on both Anderson and Gibbs-White (after a good season in the Championship) and yet want to get Fernandes, a player much better than what those players were at those points in their career for probably around £25 million? Doesn't feel overly realistic. 

Their owner seems like a ticking time bomb anyway, and can see them struggling with European football and the league next season. 

£40m. Sounds like a good round number. I wonder what we are asking for.

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48 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

If we're talking about CBs, Tanganga would be perfect. He's a monster in the air so would be a big threat at set-pieces which Still's teams are so strong on, great in the tackle and very athletic. Shouldn't cost too much either as his release clause is only a few million. 

yeah he'd be perfect imo. If what I've seen is accurate to how we set up, Still likes to play an agressive, high, man for man press. That means we need to have CB's who are aggressive, quick and don't get beat in the air. 

Tanganga ticks all those boxes imo.

He was linked with Wolves in January though - I'll be amazed if a PL club doesn't take a punt on him. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Dman said:

yeah he'd be perfect imo. If what I've seen is accurate to how we set up, Still likes to play an agressive, high, man for man press. That means we need to have CB's who are aggressive, quick and don't get beat in the air. 

Tanganga ticks all those boxes imo.

He was linked with Wolves in January though - I'll be amazed if a PL club doesn't take a punt on him. 

If they don't we'd be the next best thing...assuming we have offloaded many of our CBs

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59 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Cool. I find it weird that some people only ever relentlessly trot out the club's party line, and attack anyone who challenges it, almost like they have some sort of vested interest in doing so. 

But hey, isn't it nice that we can agree to disagree like grown-ups. 

Have a great day. 

I’m not even sure what’s that supposed to mean but good to know that not jumping to wild conclusions about 19year olds you know nothing about is now a clubs party line 🤣

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Don't want Keane anywhere near Saints, would rather stick with what we have. There's a reason why he's never been a regular for Everton. He's looked terrible every time I've watched him and scores own goals for fun.

THB and Edwards as a minimum should be given a chance to see how they play together and whether they can develop. Potentially with an experienced head (fonte esq) to settle things down and take a lead. The objective is to build for the premier league, not sign players like Keane who are already established pros and who are being considered a weak link / excess to requirements in a poor Everton side.

Sanda has shown there is some potential to him as well, and in a similar boat there is Charles (in CM). I personally would like to see all them retained and their pathways into the first team and opportunities to develop not being blocked.

So, if we are serious about promotion and building a future team for them prem, i think the likes of THB, Edwards, Charles, Downes (if he can sort out his attitude), and Fernandes should all be on a "to be retained" list. And that shouldn't change unless silly money offers are received.

Ditto ramsdale... If the club can afford it and we're happy to play hardball.

Keep all of them and it's a very solid spine for championship team, and one that has the scope to grow into the next fonte, Spiderman, lallana, Lambert style core of a side.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Chez said:

If they don't we'd be the next best thing...assuming we have offloaded many of our CBs

In theory, it shouldn't be that difficult. 

Bednerak allegedly had intrest in Jan (I'm genuinely baffled that we didn't take that offer - madness) and isn't going to comand a huge fee. 

ABK is a waste of space, but clearly has talent. Will have intrest.. we will need to take a hit on him, but at least he'd be off the books and saving on wages. Could easily shift on loan worse case.

Wood we paid peanuts for. Could easily see him getting a move for close to what we paid to a championship side. 

THB agent seem to have been courting him around, or hes had genuine interest. Suspect he'll have suitors in the PL, Brighton, west ham, Bmouth or a newly promoted side would probably take a punt. £20m that we paid will be tough to recoup. 

Taylor out of contract?

That would leave; 

Stephens will probably stick around. Edwards, Sanda who is young but decent squad filler. 

We will defo need 1 more CB, probably 2. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, saintant said:

Aston Villa will be loaning out winger Louie Barry this summer. Think he is someone we should be looking at.

 

 

 

 

wasn't he absolutely shite for Hull back end of last season?

Posted
37 minutes ago, saintant said:

Aston Villa will be loaning out winger Louie Barry this summer. Think he is someone we should be looking at.

 

 

 

 

Get this lad in. Our last Villa signing was excellent 🙄

Posted
1 hour ago, saintant said:

Aston Villa will be loaning out winger Louie Barry this summer. Think he is someone we should be looking at.

 

 

 

 

Honestly with the youtube highlights we need actual honest titles

Louie Barry 2025 - Aston Villa squad filler - Has been pretty shit for hull but we are trying to get rid of him so the intern cut this video to make him look mustard

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Honestly with the youtube highlights we need actual honest titles

Louie Barry 2025 - Aston Villa squad filler - Has been pretty shit for hull but we are trying to get rid of him so the intern cut this video to make him look mustard

Is this what the 'video analysts' do?

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Posted
22 minutes ago, SherborneSaint said:


Name had been mentioned by some earlier, but this looks to be happening. It would suggest some of our current centre backs may well be off - no bad thing…

Can't find much about him. is he any good?

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5 minutes ago, saintant said:

Can't find much about him. is he any good?

6f 5in, can play with both feet

Strengths: Doesnt Read Saintweb

Physical Attributes: He's tall and strong, making him a threat in the air and a tough opponent in the tackle.

Versatile: Able to play with both feet, indicating a good level of technical skill.

Potential: He is a young player with significant potential, and his loan move to Greuther Fürth provided an opportunity for him to develop his game at a higher level. 

Areas for Improvement:

Experience:

While he is physically gifted, his experience at the highest level is still developing, as he is a young player in a competitive environment.

Tactical Understanding:

He will need to continue developing his tactical understanding and decision-making on the field. 

Intends to spend all summer on football manager even though they were too lazy to produce one for this year.

Expects to cook in the championship

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1 minute ago, Convict Colony said:

6f 5in, can play with both feet

Strengths:

Physical Attributes: He's tall and strong, making him a threat in the air and a tough opponent in the tackle.

Versatile: Able to play with both feet, indicating a good level of technical skill.

Potential: He is a young player with significant potential, and his loan move to Greuther Fürth provides an opportunity for him to develop his game at a higher level. 

Areas for Improvement:

Experience:

While he is physically gifted, his experience at the highest level is still developing, as he is a young player in a competitive environment.

Tactical Understanding:

He will need to continue developing his tactical understanding and decision-making on the field. 

Sounds like he'll need some work to get himself into the first team but he's certainly a beast!

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Intwresting to sign another young CB seeing as we already have Wood, Edwards and Kayi-Sanda. The latter likely to be out on loan I guess.

Stephens, Wood, Edwards and Quarshie as CB options? Bit of a gamble.

Might we cash in on Edwards if he perhaps doesnt fit the style?

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I expect Spors to move at speeds we have never seen before from our club or sporting director, he has a lot of work to do.

Out just as much as in.

There will be only 1 person cooking this summer and it will be Spors

a cartoon chef is making spaghetti in a kitchen .

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Just now, Convict Colony said:

I expect Spors to move at speeds we have never seen before from our club or sporting director, he has a lot of work to do.

There will be only 1 person cooking this summer and it will be Spors

a cartoon chef is making spaghetti in a kitchen .

It already seems like he's on the case. After last summer this is a very refreshing change.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

37.04km/h is faster than Kamaladen Sulemana’s record speed at the 2022 World Cup

It's a great asset for a centre back as few have that recovery speed in their locker.

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From what I can tell Joshua Quarshie spent the first half of this season out on loan at 2.Bundesliga club Fortuna Düsseldorf and the second half at SpVgg Greuther Fürth in the same division. He didn't get much game time at Düsseldorf overall as they started strongly in the league. He played much more at Fürth, who were battling relegation but were much improved after he joined, conceding only around half as many goals from then on and avoiding the drop into 3.Liga fairly comfortably in the end.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

37.04km/h is faster than Kamaladen Sulemana’s record speed at the 2022 World Cup

Is Kamaladen related our own Kamaldeen Sulemana?

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So we're going back to trying to unearth the next Livramento/Lavia and playing pressing football? I've gone back in time. ;) A mix of young potential and proven quality will do this summer. Doesn't have to be one extreme or the other.

Of course, if the scouting is good then we'll get a lot more Livramento's and Lavia's than the duds we signed three years ago. Just have to hope it is. Either way, Championship clubs don't spent £3.5m on non-first team/Goztepe loan players. THB and Quarshie centre-backs with Edwards in midfield? THB's likely off, though.

It was reported a couple of weeks back that Tim Lederer was becoming our chief scout from Hoffenheim, so more than likely a suggestion of his.

 

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12 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Is Kamaladen related our own Kamaldeen Sulemana?

I copied and pasted from the Echo website without proof reading the professional journalist! So was their typo, not mine. 😉 

 

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4 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

It was reported a couple of weeks back that Tim Lederer was becoming our chief scout from Hoffenheim, so more than likely a suggestion of his.

It does sound like we'll be doing our fishing in the Dutch/German leagues. While it's interesting to see such a fast centre back, I would ask whether Spors/Lederer/our other scouts have a) tabs on domestic talent and b) clout as to whether they can entice that talent to our club.

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