Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

"if it's not broken, consider breaking it"

[Badger]

So is there still a case being made  for Rusk and Nivea continuing the good work next season ? 

[Matthew Le God]

21 minutes ago, Badger said:

So is there still a case being made  for Rusk and Nivea continuing the good work next season ? 

I don’t think there ever was a good case for that! Being part of the coaching setup perhaps, but not being at the top and in charge!

[S-Clarke]

22 minutes ago, Badger said:

So is there still a case being made  for Rusk and Nivea continuing the good work next season ? 

I don't think there's anyone in football who can get a tune out of this bunch, so I don't hold any bad feelings for either Rusk or Lallana.

The issues go deeper than the manager at this point.

[Matthew Le God]

34 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

"if it's not broken, consider breaking it"

Mission accomplished! Although to be fair, the club was already on the decline when SR had their takeover.

Edited May 3 by Matthew Le God

[bangkoksaint]

Rusk said in his post match presser that they have to be hard working and professional. I’ve not seen an ounce of that all season, so it’s not going to start now and quite frankly they should be embarrassed about what they have given this season. 

[S-Clarke]

5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Mission accomplished! Although to be fair, the club was already on the decline when SR had their takeover.

Yeah, they picked up the club with a few cuts and bruises which needed fixing up.

But they actually ended up sticking a dagger through our heart and killing us.

Edited May 3 by S-Clarke

[Wade Garrett]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I don’t think there ever was a good case for that! Being part of the coaching setup perhaps, but not being at the top and in charge!

I wouldn’t have Rusk anywhere near the first team.

[Wade Garrett]

6 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

Rusk said in his post match presser that they have to be hard working and professional. I’ve not seen an ounce of that all season, so it’s not going to start now and quite frankly they should be embarrassed about what they have given this season. 

Gaslighting.

[Gloucester Saint]

17 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Ogfo tukwu would know.

Sounds like a Tofu substitute to me.

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I wouldn’t have Rusk anywhere near the first team.

What do we really know about his ability to coach rather than manage?

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I wouldn’t have Rusk anywhere near the first team.

As his name suggests, he is best feeding the young.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

What do we really know about his ability to coach rather than manage?

Yes, his coaching ability has really shone through this season, I dread to think where we’d be without it….

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Yes, his coaching ability has really shone through this season, I dread to think where we’d be without it….

Pre his caretaker/interim manager roles how do you know what his coaching did didn't do?

[Gloucester Saint]

14 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

Rusk said in his post match presser that they have to be hard working and professional. I’ve not seen an ounce of that all season, so it’s not going to start now and quite frankly they should be embarrassed about what they have given this season. 

Even he admits they’ve basically thrown the game from kick off and not tried a leg. Cheats, spivs and wage thieves. 

Edited May 3 by Gloucester Saint

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Pre his caretaker/interim manager roles how do you know what his coaching did didn't do?

I think I know what it didn’t fucking do…..

[Saint Fan CaM]

4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Pre his caretaker/interim manager roles how do you know what his coaching did didn't do?

Give it up - the tw@t has just presided over arguably the worst shitshow ever, playing Russball tactics…taking off our best, fittest player while chasing a 2-0 deficit. If you think he’s worthy of a first team role then you’re even more deluded than most in here think you are. We MUST break free somehow of the Russball vice grip thats around the players necks. Rusk and Lallana are not the answer…today proved that beyond doubt.

Edited May 3 by Saint Fan CaM

[tdmickey3]

52 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

"if it's not broken, consider breaking it"

SR have smashed it into a mush with a sledgehammer 

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I think I know what it didn’t fucking do…..

Very hard to judge a coaches impact when you don't know what coaching tasks he was assigned. Plus he wasn't ultimately responsible making tactical decisions, when he was just coaching that was on Martin and Juric.

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Give it up - the tw@t has just presided over arguably the worst shitshow ever, playing Russball tactics…taking off our best, fittest player while chasing a 2-0 deficit. If you think he’s worthy of a first team role then you’re even more deluded than most in here think you are. We MUST break free somehow of the Russball vice grip thats around the players necks. Rusk and Lallana are not the answer…today proved that beyond doubt.

Strawman fallacy!

That was him as a manager. We were discussing his impact as a coach under Martin and then Juric.

[Gloucester Saint]

Probably less ‘who would we like’ and more ‘who is willing to do it who isn’t a Russell Martin/Ivan Juric disaster area.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

3 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Give it up - the tw@t has just presided over arguably the worst shitshow ever, playing Russball tactics…taking off our best, fittest player while chasing a 2-0 deficit. If you think he’s worthy of a first team role then you’re even more deluded than most in here think you are. We MUST break free somehow of the Russball vice grip thats around the players necks. Rusk and Lallana are not the answer…today proved that beyond doubt.

What I don't get is even if Rusk has no ambitions to be the future manager, he could want to be in the future set-up or at the very least enhance his own reputation. He comes in on the back of a 0-0 draw at Fulham and has a free hit. So why did he revert to such negativity and the Russball/5 at the back nonsense?

Yes, we're a shit team but a lot of us recognise that and just want effort and positivity. Get the ball in to the opponents penalty area. All sorts of things can happen. Maybe to get rid of the negativity, they should be fined £1,000 of their wages every time they pass the ball sideways of backwards (granted Ross Stewart would have still been quids in, he only touched the ball 3 times today!)

[EBS1980]

I’m assuming we are waiting for the season to be over before making the announcement but if it is Rohl we want, now the Championship season is over I hope we firm up and get it sorted. Even if he doesn’t officially start yet, just get it done, give the players a few games to try and put some effort in and impress the new manager.

[saint michael]

The cub is a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are running it. Manager and coach taking little responsibility for set up and performance. Loony type of subs many times. Zero coaching effect on any part of the team…. Apart from 5hat make him the full time manager today. As for the other muppets of managers this season, hang your heads in shame and good luck to any future employers who employ you.  As for the owners. You reap what you sow stop weeping and sort it or F off.

i never want to see this short sideways and backwards football ever again you have killed any joy I’ve had over many years of watching my club. The loyalty shown by the fans this year goes way beyond what this shower deserves.

Edited May 3 by saint michael

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, saint michael said:

The cub is a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are running it. Manager and coach taking little responsibility for set up and performance. Loony type of subs many times. Zero coaching effect on any part of the team…. Apart from 5hat make him the full time manager today. As for the other muppets of managers this season, hang your heads in shame and good luck to any future employers who employ you.  As for the owners. You reap what you sow stop weeping and sort it or F off.

They have made steps to do that. But we can't see any possible rewards of that until the transfer window opens.

[Lighthouse]

22 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Give it up - the tw@t has just presided over arguably the worst shitshow ever, playing Russball tactics…taking off our best, fittest player while chasing a 2-0 deficit. If you think he’s worthy of a first team role then you’re even more deluded than most in here think you are. We MUST break free somehow of the Russball vice grip thats around the players necks. Rusk and Lallana are not the answer…today proved that beyond doubt.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen the phrase ‘Russball’ used to describe about thirty different teams and managers this season. It seems to mean any passage of play involving a period of sustained possession. At some point we’re all going to have to admit that such a thing was not invented by, nor is it exclusive to, Russell Martin and that lots of managers like to pass the ball and retain possession.

[InvictaSaint]

9 hours ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

He's a major shareholder in the club.

Ffs

What does that matter? We’ve just appointed a Technical Director to appoint our new manager. Wankersen won’t have anything to do with it. Ffs. 

[Fabrice29]

11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen the phrase ‘Russball’ used to describe about thirty different teams and managers this season. It seems to mean any passage of play involving a period of sustained possession. At some point we’re all going to have to admit that such a thing was not invented by, nor is it exclusive to, Russell Martin and that lots of managers like to pass the ball and retain possession.

Unless passing the ball leads to a goal and in which case it's specifically not Russball, even if Russ was in charge of said "ball" at the time. For example the play off final. 

[Whitey Grandad]

20 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen the phrase ‘Russball’ used to describe about thirty different teams and managers this season. It seems to mean any passage of play involving a period of sustained possession. At some point we’re all going to have to admit that such a thing was not invented by, nor is it exclusive to, Russell Martin and that lots of managers like to pass the ball and retain possession.

Otherwise called ‘going nowhere’

[BarberSaint]

40 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Strawman fallacy!

That was him as a manager. We were discussing his impact as a coach under Martin and then Juric.

 

 

His 'impact' as you put it was to  contribute towards a lucky 9 points, wasn't it?  And two managers sacked.

[Lord Duckhunter]

19 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

such a thing was not invented by, nor is it exclusive to, Russell Martin

Lego seems to think it was…..

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, BarberSaint said:

His 'impact' as you put it was to  contribute towards a lucky 9 points, wasn't it?  And two managers sacked.

Do you know what his exact tasks were under Martin and Juric? Plus he wasn't making final decisions at that time.

[Whitey Grandad]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Lego seems to think it was…..

We played it in its purest form. Never going anywhere near the opposition goal.

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Lego seems to think it was…..

Possession is clearly nine-tenths of the Lego brick…

[Dark Munster]

1 hour ago, InvictaSaint said:

What does that matter? We’ve just appointed a Technical Director to appoint our new manager. Wankersen won’t have anything to do with it. Ffs. 

He's still here and part owner. How do you know he won't have influence with Spors? I hope you're right. But don't underestimate the moron's titanic-sized ego and deluded belief that he's the biggest genius in football.

[ally_uk]

Let’s not take everything away from Russell Martin.

In the Championship, some of our football was fantastic to watch, genuinely exciting, fluid, and brave.

But what killed us was poor recruitment, a lack of physicality, strength, and height in the team, and a tactical inflexibility that meant we rarely switched things up when it mattered most.

Juric was a disaster. Rusk isn’t bringing anything to the table either.
Why the insistence on this 5-at-the-back bullshit?
We’re already relegated — show a bit of bollocks! Go out with a 4-4-2, keep it simple, and play with some attacking purpose.

Pass it forward. Get Onuachu in the box. Let the full-backs ping in crosses.

Why overcomplicate it?

[pimpin4rizeal]

2 hours ago, Badger said:

So is there still a case being made  for Rusk and Nivea continuing the good work next season ? 

Don’t see why people are trying to turn on rusk .. if it’s not obvious that we are absolutely dreadfull by now i don’t know what to say .. but fans still making the next poor bastard to manage us the villain 

Edited May 3 by pimpin4rizeal

[Lighthouse]

7 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Why the insistence on this 5-at-the-back bullshit?
We’re already relegated — show a bit of bollocks! Go out with a 4-4-2, keep it simple, and play with some attacking purpose.

 

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

What do we really know about his ability to coach rather than manage?

Fuck me. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

Fuck me. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Avoiding the question

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Avoiding the question

11pts
Record confirmed relegation
Feck knows how many goals conceded
Joint worst points haul in PL history
2 relegations

If you're going to counter that with some sort of counterargument, you'll be talking to yourself.

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

11pts
Record confirmed relegation
Feck knows how many goals conceded
Joint worst points haul in PL history
2 relegations

If you're going to counter that with some sort of counterargument, you'll be talking to yourself.

None of that is in any way relevant to the post you replied "fuck me" to. The post you replied "fuck me" to asked the question...

"What do we really know about his ability to coach rather than manage?"

That is a question about Rusk's time as a coach under Martin and Juric. 

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

None of that is in any way relevant to the post you replied "fuck me" to. The post you replied "fuck me" to asked the question...

"What do we really know about his ability to coach rather than manage?"

That is a question about Rusk's time as a coach under Martin and Juric. 

I'm in the pub.

You should get out and do the same.. You're fucking boring mate.

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

I'm in the pub.

You should get out and do the same.. You're fucking boring mate.

I probably wouldn’t be calling other people boring if I was sat in a pub and yet still having an argument with a stranger on an internet message board.

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I probably wouldn’t be calling other people boring if I was sat in a pub and yet still having an argument with a stranger on an internet message board.

WTF 🤣🤣🤣

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Do you know what his exact tasks were under Martin and Juric? Plus he wasn't making final decisions at that time.

Source?

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

Source?

Him not being the manager at the time. Source... the club website.

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Him not being the manager at the time. Source... the club website.

Can you link to the part that states he specifically wasn't making final decisions at the time?

[charliemiller]

We need a Manager who understands the history and pride this club has before this seasons embarrassing debacle. No idea who that is but we someone to put some desire fight and pride into this miserable lot of losers . Like WGS got them running thru thru the new forest in the mud would do exactly that .

The club needs an attitude adjustment from top to bottom 

[LGTL]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Him not being the manager at the time. Source... the club website.

I can find no reference on the club website stating that Rusk wasn’t making any final decisions. If you can’t link the article which states specifically ‘Simon Rusk will NOT be making ANY final decisions’, then I do believe you’re wrong. How do you know Russ didn’t let him have final say over a set piece routine, for example?