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5 minutes ago, SOTONSEASTSIDE said:

If we use SR's MO, it will be someone out of leftfield!!

Perhaps with someone they've worked with...

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Meet the new management team!

Lydon: Right lads. Remember: Anger is an energy. anger is an energy. May the pitch rise with you. May the pitch rise with you. Now, get out there and don't open up for the other team!

 

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8 hours ago, ally_uk said:

Said Cooper would be the most sensible appointment. Steady the ship......


Mayflower?  Titanic?  Mary Rose?  Or our Saintsy red and white Yellow Submarine?

 

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I think I’d prefer Delia Smith to Still Will. I was extremely underwhelmed when I became aware of the potential of having Russel Martin as our manager, I feel even more underwhelmed, if that were possible, by this possibility. 

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18 hours ago, MindtheGab said:

It's Rohl vs Still

Surprised if true.

9 hours ago, West end Saints said:

Just playing around with chatgpt and thought would ask who we should have, to get us promoted with preference to high energy football....

 

Based on your criteria — successful promotion campaign, attacking high-energy football — here's how the four candidates stack up:


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1. Steve Cooper — Best Fit

Pros:

Promotion experience: Took Nottingham Forest from the bottom of the Championship to the Premier League in 2022.

Championship savvy: Knows how to build momentum over a long campaign.

Flexible but intense: Teams play with good structure and energy; can adapt between possession and pressing styles.


Cons:

Not known for ultra-attacking football; more pragmatic when needed.

Premier League tenure with Forest turned more conservative.


Verdict: Most proven at getting promotion quickly — your safest and strongest bet for the goal.


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2. Danny Röhl — Rising Star

Pros:

High-energy football: Transformed Sheffield Wednesday with an aggressive pressing style.

Tactical pedigree: Coached under Hasenhüttl, Nagelsmann, Flick — elite footballing minds.

Modern coach: Brings intensity, tactical structure, and ambition.


Cons:

No experience gaining promotion (yet).

Very new to head coaching — still proving consistency across a season.


Verdict: High-upside gamble — could bring both promotion and exciting football, but riskier than Cooper.


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3. Will Still — Potential but Unproven

Pros:

Young, modern coach who favors attacking football.

Strong communicator with players; brought success to Reims (France).


Cons:

No Championship experience.

No track record of promotion or managing in England.


Verdict: Exciting idea, but a real risk given lack of experience with English football or promotion races.


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4. Frank Lampard — High Profile, Low Reward

Pros:

Knows English football well.

Promoted Derby to the play-offs with an attacking style.


Cons:

Poor recent record: struggles at Chelsea, Everton.

Questionable tactical identity and adaptability.

No promotion success despite big resources at Derby.


Verdict: Big name but least suited based on recent record and inconsistency.


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Final Ranking (Best to Worst Fit for Your Goals):

1. Steve Cooper – proven, safe choice with promotion on his CV.


2. Danny Röhl – high-upside, exciting gamble.


3. Will Still – potential for future, but premature for this role.


4. Frank Lampard – not aligned with success or style objectives.
 

Personally my feeling is that Danny Rohl would be the best fit and connect with the fans best

Evemn more surprising that it hasn't researched a few other names mentioned on here, Bo Svennson, Rodger Schmidt,  Marco Rose etc....  Pretty bloody lazy by Chapgpt or whatever. 

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Thinking about the Rohl interview highlighted on here a couple of days ago, fuck all in it in my view other than a bit of self -marketing on his part. Have to remember his stock is probably higher here than it is in Germany. 

I don't think it would come as a surprise if he is keen to move back to Germany with a young family and you wouldn't begrudge him that.  Die Frau und die Kinder kommen zuerst, Brian *  (as he might say in Germany - according to Google Translate).

On a downside on this though, Rohl has come across well in the interviews I've seen and what I've previously read but I don't think this reflects well on him or his agents. Bloke is still under contract to Sheff Weds so not good to be hawking yourself to the media in this fashion. In my view anyway. We know how we'd feel if it was our manager doing it. 

 

*The wife and kids come first Brian 

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On 08/05/2025 at 13:02, Fabrice29 said:

Looking forward to us appointing a manager who has clearly stated they have no intention of working at the top level and trying to inspire us to promotion. 

This will be the same appointment thatt the club announce on their website : We'd like to welcome Stevie, Tom, Will, Franco... [insert as applicable] to the club ... from the time we started our diligent search it was clear that we wanted someone who aligned with our values and style of play, from the outset ... someone else was the outstanding candidate, in fact this cunt wasn't even in the top three ... "

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Just read a rumour we have interviewed former Man U coach Eric Ramsay. Fuck me we have some morons at the club. Probably another Rasmus left field ‘I am a genius’ appointment. Am done if this happens. 

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When Still's name came into the frame I was initially very concerned but after watching him on the Monday night Sky programme I could see what the fuss was all about. Because our next appointment is crucial for the owners his being made our manager is one helluva gamble - a sort of 'shit or bust' decision.

I don't know why but I think I would prefer him to Rohl who I think still would prefer a job nearer to his home in Germany. We need to tie a manager down to being with us quite a few seasons, someone who can take an interest in the wider aspects such as the Academy, not someone using us as a stepping stone. But of course that's not to say if Still does well he won't be poached such is the capricious nature of football these days.

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45 minutes ago, DT said:

Just read a rumour we have interviewed former Man U coach Eric Ramsay. Fuck me we have some morons at the club. Probably another Rasmus left field ‘I am a genius’ appointment. Am done if this happens. 

Pretty sure clickbait exists specifically to wind you up.

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2 hours ago, DT said:

Just read a rumour we have interviewed former Man U coach Eric Ramsay. Fuck me we have some morons at the club. Probably another Rasmus left field ‘I am a genius’ appointment. Am done if this happens. 

Knowing these fuckwits they thought they were interviewing Alf Ramsey (Ankersen's new ChatShit AI suggested a decent record and connection to Saints). 

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2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

When Still's name came into the frame I was initially very concerned but after watching him on the Monday night Sky programme I could see what the fuss was all about. Because our next appointment is crucial for the owners his being made our manager is one helluva gamble - a sort of 'shit or bust' decision.

I don't know why but I think I would prefer him to Rohl who I think still would prefer a job nearer to his home in Germany. We need to tie a manager down to being with us quite a few seasons, someone who can take an interest in the wider aspects such as the Academy, not someone using us as a stepping stone. But of course that's not to say if Still does well he won't be poached such is the capricious nature of football these days.

Was it this? 

 

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3 hours ago, DT said:

Just read a rumour we have interviewed former Man U coach Eric Ramsay. Fuck me we have some morons at the club. Probably another Rasmus left field ‘I am a genius’ appointment. Am done if this happens. 

I didn’t want it to be true until I read that last sentence.

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On 11/05/2025 at 09:26, West end Saints said:

Just playing around with chatgpt and thought would ask who we should have, to get us promoted with preference to high energy football....

 

Based on your criteria — successful promotion campaign, attacking high-energy football — here's how the four candidates stack up:

 

2. Danny Röhl — Rising Star

Pros:

High-energy football: Transformed Sheffield Wednesday with an aggressive pressing style.

Tactical pedigree: Coached under Hasenhüttl, Nagelsmann, Flick — elite footballing minds.

Modern coach: Brings intensity, tactical structure, and ambition.


Cons:

No experience gaining promotion (yet).

Very new to head coaching — still proving consistency across a season.


Verdict: High-upside gamble — could bring both promotion and exciting football, but riskier than Cooper.

 

We had high energy football and aggressive pressing in one game v Plymouth at home first game of the season !!

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38 minutes ago, Rohl With It said:

We had high energy football and aggressive pressing in one game v Plymouth at home first game of the season !!

That was one more game in that style from Mauricio Pellegrino, after Les Reed promised it on the website. Considering the pedigree and the expensive squad he had, he was astonishingly bad. 

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4 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Pretty sure clickbait exists specifically to wind you up.

Thank goodness you're here with all your wisdom

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I didn’t want it to be true until I read that last sentence.

Hello Rasmus!

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I can see why people are big on Cooper just personally find him incredibly dull.

If it became clear it was going to be him I wouldnt have an issue with it and sure he would do a decent job but not one I can excited about.

Rohl or Still fine by me, just hope Spors can get whoever he wants and can work best with and that its sorted before too long.

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1 hour ago, Dusic said:

I can see why people are big on Cooper just personally find him incredibly dull.

If it became clear it was going to be him I wouldnt have an issue with it and sure he would do a decent job but not one I can excited about.

Rohl or Still fine by me, just hope Spors can get whoever he wants and can work best with and that its sorted before too long.

Cooper would mean the present squad would be more suited and so less work for Spors in the summer. For that reason I’m out (on Cooper).

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It’s quite obvious that Saints are targeting Danny Rohl and have been for some time. 
Imagine if he is the number one target and then the club don’t get him - what next? Scrapping for whoever is left 😂

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5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It’s quite obvious that Saints are targeting Danny Rohl and have been for some time. 
Imagine if he is the number one target and then the club don’t get him - what next? Scrapping for whoever is left 😂

Does look that way but who knows?  TBH there's no outstanding candidate that everyone can get behind.  Just hope that Spors gets whoever he identifies as his number one target and isn't left working his way down a list and eventually settling on someone he's not so sure on. 

Still think player recruitment will be more key than the new manager but if both Spors and the  manager are absolutely aligned on what we need then that's not a bad place to start from.

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1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It’s quite obvious that Saints are targeting Danny Rohl and have been for some time. 
Imagine if he is the number one target and then the club don’t get him - what next? Scrapping for whoever is left 😂

As far as I know Solak formally offered him the job before they appointed Juric, and response was wait and see.

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5 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

As far as I know Solak formally offered him the job before they appointed Juric, and response was wait and see.

Rohl is my top choice - has been since January. I think he'll go really far in the game, however, Sheff Weds end of season form & him throwing his toys out of the pram leading to nothing short of unporofessional performances has put a huge concern in my mind. 

I think Rohl has some questionable loyalty morals. So If he comes and does well, as soon as a bigger side show interest, he'll be off. I also suspect he's probably holding off to see if something a bit bigger and better comes up. 

But you know what, I'm okay with that. I'd rather someone those better than us want in charge than someone noone wants. Alas, Jones, Selles, Martin & Juric.

Still is a bit more of a gamble, but I wouldn't be against it. 

The summer is going to be huge for us - both players in and out. We need to get the new man in by the start of June latest to give them a summer and pre-season to give us the best chance of sucess. If Rohl wants to wait, we need to move on. 

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I think Rohl has some questionable loyalty morals. So If he comes and does well, as soon as a bigger side show interest, he'll be off. I also suspect he's probably holding off to see if something a bit bigger and better comes up. 

If he leaves us in a better place than he came to us it's good enough for me.

With the Leipzig and Wolfsburg jobs up for grabs in Germany, I do think there is a reasonable possibility he's headed back there this summer. Whatever happens, we need to see a show of intent by SR and not muck around with negotiations. Cooper, Rohl, Still, all are acceptable to me. Just get the appointment done and crack on with player trading.

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1 hour ago, sockeye said:

If he leaves us in a better place than he came to us it's good enough for me.

With the Leipzig and Wolfsburg jobs up for grabs in Germany, I do think there is a reasonable possibility he's headed back there this summer. Whatever happens, we need to see a show of intent by SR and not muck around with negotiations. Cooper, Rohl, Still, all are acceptable to me. Just get the appointment done and crack on with player trading.

Agreed.  If Rohl gets us up in good shape (autos) he's earned the choice to stay and develop a relatively big Premier league club in terms of pedigree and infrastructure, or consider offers from the bona fide big boys a la Maresca.

Cooper, I think should be in the frame as a no-brainer.  His real strength is as an organiser, he could well  get us up in an automatic place and then may look to stay at Saints to consolidate and build on his experience, we'd be a good fit for that.  However, of the trio suggested, the appointment of Still would worry me, and I think he'd be on a hiding to nothing considering where morale is at the club right now.  

Whoever it is, they need to be in place soon after the season ends to decide who to sell and recruit, and I think that they will be.

 

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4 hours ago, Dusic said:

I can see why people are big on Cooper just personally find him incredibly dull.

If it became clear it was going to be him I wouldnt have an issue with it and sure he would do a decent job but not one I can excited about.

Rohl or Still fine by me, just hope Spors can get whoever he wants and can work best with and that its sorted before too long.

A lot of us do, but of the three main names, he comes across as the most likely to stay with us once promoted rather than use us as a stepping stone.

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5 hours ago, Dusic said:

I can see why people are big on Cooper just personally find him incredibly dull.

If it became clear it was going to be him I wouldnt have an issue with it and sure he would do a decent job but not one I can excited about.

Rohl or Still fine by me, just hope Spors can get whoever he wants and can work best with and that its sorted before too long.

I'd take dull and sensible over philosophies, out of the box appointments or stats that suggest they're the best manager in Europe.

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2 hours ago, sockeye said:

If he leaves us in a better place than he came to us it's good enough for me.

With the Leipzig and Wolfsburg jobs up for grabs in Germany, I do think there is a reasonable possibility he's headed back there this summer. Whatever happens, we need to see a show of intent by SR and not muck around with negotiations. Cooper, Rohl, Still, all are acceptable to me. Just get the appointment done and crack on with player trading.

I have read that Wolfsburg were lining up Neestrup (mentioned on here before) from FC Copehagen as their DOF had worked with him there before. 

Leipzig is the interesting one. As it stands they are out of the CL places so may not want a CL ready manager. Glasner was reportedly their preferred option, but he's also linked with Spurs. 

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4 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It’s quite obvious that Saints are targeting Danny Rohl and have been for some time. 
Imagine if he is the number one target and then the club don’t get him - what next? Scrapping for whoever is left 😂

It wouldn't be summer if we didn't have some barrel scraping by Saints, either manager or players at some point between now and 1stv September. 

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11 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

When Still's name came into the frame I was initially very concerned but after watching him on the Monday night Sky programme I could see what the fuss was all about. Because our next appointment is crucial for the owners his being made our manager is one helluva gamble - a sort of 'shit or bust' decision.

I don't know why but I think I would prefer him to Rohl who I think still would prefer a job nearer to his home in Germany. We need to tie a manager down to being with us quite a few seasons, someone who can take an interest in the wider aspects such as the Academy, not someone using us as a stepping stone. But of course that's not to say if Still does well he won't be poached such is the capricious nature of football these days.

Interesting how your perception of him has changed from that, but lets not forget Martin is regarded by some as talking a good game. 

Still hasn't really done enough to convince me he should get a crack at a club like Saints who despite everything this year, are still a good club with potential in the Championship, although that position can soon be eroded by poor selections over a couple of seasons.

I have read Still is a West Ham fan by the way, so perhaps that will be his spiritual home, once Potter is found not to be such a messiah after all. 

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46 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I'd take dull and sensible over philosophies, out of the box appointments or stats that suggest they're the best manager in Europe.

Rohl and Still both seem flexible in their approach and havent seen anything that really suggests they are 'out of the box'.

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3 hours ago, Dman said:

Rohl is my top choice - has been since January. I think he'll go really far in the game, however, Sheff Weds end of season form & him throwing his toys out of the pram leading to nothing short of unporofessional performances has put a huge concern in my mind. 

I think Rohl has some questionable loyalty morals. So If he comes and does well, as soon as a bigger side show interest, he'll be off. I also suspect he's probably holding off to see if something a bit bigger and better comes up. 

But you know what, I'm okay with that. I'd rather someone those better than us want in charge than someone noone wants. Alas, Jones, Selles, Martin & Juric.

Still is a bit more of a gamble, but I wouldn't be against it. 

The summer is going to be huge for us - both players in and out. We need to get the new man in by the start of June latest to give them a summer and pre-season to give us the best chance of sucess. If Rohl wants to wait, we need to move on. 

Agree with most of this.

But I'm not too bothered by Sheff Weds end of season form with the other things going on there, and possibly the rumours of him leaving causing performances to drop off. Remenber us after Hessenhutl's retirement interview, and years ago the Strachan to Leeds rumour. The interviews as reported though aren't great. 

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I think Still would be worth going for as he will cause people to ask questions.  Managers won't have many clues to go by.  Other teams have taken gambles (Bournemouth, Brighton etc) and others have gone with the been there done that (west ham) which hasn't gone down as they hoped.  Then again it worked for Everton so being in the right place at the right time comes to mind.  For me it would be a fresh of breath air to try something different and see if we can finally be the team that people think struck gold (like Brighton).   It may not work but trying something predictable for me is a bigger gamble as people will judge them harsher and quicker.  

Clearly just an opinion.

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Not saying we should, but the thing I like about rusk is he’s giving the impression of awareness of the situation. After suffering Martin and juric who just kept plugging away with their flawed philosophies sticking their heads in the sand and not even changing if their jobs depended  on it, it’s refreshing to have rusk just focussing on defence first and keeping us in games. it shows an ability to address and adapt even in hard times:

also just because this is his idea in our current predicament doesn’t mean he would play ultra defensively if he was managing us next season theoretically speaking it’s just a tactic used in a dire situation 

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4 hours ago, Dman said:

Rohl is my top choice - has been since January. I think he'll go really far in the game, however, Sheff Weds end of season form & him throwing his toys out of the pram leading to nothing short of unporofessional performances has put a huge concern in my mind. 

I think Rohl has some questionable loyalty morals. So If he comes and does well, as soon as a bigger side show interest, he'll be off. I also suspect he's probably holding off to see if something a bit bigger and better comes up. 

But you know what, I'm okay with that. I'd rather someone those better than us want in charge than someone noone wants. Alas, Jones, Selles, Martin & Juric.

Still is a bit more of a gamble, but I wouldn't be against it. 

The summer is going to be huge for us - both players in and out. We need to get the new man in by the start of June latest to give them a summer and pre-season to give us the best chance of sucess. If Rohl wants to wait, we need to move on. 

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

Do you realise how utterly daft you sound warning against appointing someone in case they are too good?

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

Grow with us to what? Poch and Koeman grew with us and both did one. Everyone after that was shite until Ralph and he was just about right for us but had he “grown with us” do you not think he’d have been offered a better job and left too? We are stepping stone for players and managers this romantic idea that players and managers will love it so much they never want to leave is horse shit 

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

We've also had 6 managers in a row now that have not been poached by anyone and either currently work in a league or two leagues below our current position or remain out of work and quite unlikely to get work at a level higher than us. So..no...it doesn't put me off that we might appoint someone who might do a good job.

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

Every club's a stepping stone. Football is fleeting. Just enjoy the present. 

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1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Appears not, MLG is one of those people who won’t commit cos that way they can’t be wrong and look stupid.

Come on MLG prove me wrong, answer the question,what’s your view on Still ?

MLG is one of those people who manages to be wrong and look stupid, whether he's committing to an opinion or not. I was rather hoping we were having a break from it, after the recent nonsense.

Still came across very well. Good communication, presentation and depth. He's very aware of the message he's getting across and the presentation reinforces their training. None of it's there for show, or to needlessly complicate.

But that's not as important as transferring that into results. 

So another plus, for me, is that he's now had multiple seasons in a top 5 league. That's with a plus of it being with 2 clubs, which is another checklist tick.

My preference is to have someone who can help shape the club, to challenge Spors and SR, and to drive us to PL sustainability. For me, that's not yet Still. Even if we do look back at his glittering career later on and know we missed out a bit. It's a bit about the here and now needs to reshape things across the board.

That said, the moment whoever gets announced gets full support.

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

I like the idea of this but the last manager I felt would ‘grow with us’ was Adkins and we know how that ended. We can probably also hazard a good guess how it might have ended if he’d got us top six for a couple of years and then Liverpool came calling.

As for, plenty of managers who might do a decent job, and (stay to) grow with us, who did you have in mind ? That description leads me to the Eustace, Cleverly band, as you’ve perhaps left out one other important bit - someone not sought after further up the food chain at this stage of their career. 

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30 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

We've also had 6 managers in a row now that have not been poached by anyone and either currently work in a league or two leagues below our current position or remain out of work and quite unlikely to get work at a level higher than us. So..no...it doesn't put me off that we might appoint someone who might do a good job.

So, not so much growing with us as seeing their careers go down the shit shute by association…. 

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23 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

MLG is one of those people who manages to be wrong and look stupid, whether he's committing to an opinion or not. I was rather hoping we were having a break from it, after the recent nonsense.

Still came across very well. Good communication, presentation and depth. He's very aware of the message he's getting across and the presentation reinforces their training. None of it's there for show, or to needlessly complicate.

But that's not as important as transferring that into results. 

So another plus, for me, is that he's now had multiple seasons in a top 5 league. That's with a plus of it being with 2 clubs, which is another checklist tick.

My preference is to have someone who can help shape the club, to challenge Spors and SR, and to drive us to PL sustainability. For me, that's not yet Still. Even if we do look back at his glittering career later on and know we missed out a bit. It's a bit about the here and now needs to reshape things across the board.

That said, the moment whoever gets announced gets full support.

Kind of where I am on Still. I started to take him seriously after listening to his podcast about 6 months ago. He speaks very, very well talks sense seems very grounded and despite the football manager jibes he’s got loads of years experience in coaching, analysis and management working his way up from a bankrupt lower league Belgian team right up to the French top division. He could be a very good appointment but not right now, we need someone to get a grip on things, we’ve been a struggling club for years now, keeping our heads over the water for years before eventually, inevitably going down. We don’t need a yes man or an SR puppet with a philosophy and all that bollocks, we need a leader in the dugout who can build and organise a team. It might be Will Still but I think now might be the wrong time 

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