Has Parsons been sacked yet ?

[SaintsLoyal]

Hes equally responsible for the shambles of this season and if two managers get booted, then he should as well.

Hes totally out of his depth and made a rod for his own back in many ways in such a short space of time.

 

 

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Hes equally responsible for the shambles of this season and if two managers get booted, then he should as well.

Hes totally out of his depth and made a rod for his own back in many ways in such a short space of time.

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

The commercial side of the club has done alright from what I can tell, and would be better still if the football side wasn’t so disasterous.

Rasmus, Kraft and Martin were the main offenders. Just have to hope Spors and his team find the right manager and sort player recruitment out over the next few windows, because it won’t be fixed in one or two. 

[Gingeletiss]

OMG! MLG, where have you been these last few weeks, really missed your input.

[BarberSaint]

I do think he should get flak.

 

For the season ticket pricing, for not coming up with something better regarding staged payments, for people losing credit. That's his brief and he should get a load of stick.

Crap managers? He might be one, but I don't think he hired any of them directly. If he did, yep, another reason to sack him so he can get another overpaid job somewhere.

[SaintsLoyal]

16 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

Hes the CEO and has been all over the football operations, which has seen the worst season in the clubs history.......  for a start  

[Weston Super Saint]

19 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

Don't we now pay more in interest on the loan, despite refinancing for more 'favourable' terms?

[OldNick]

Personally I feel he has done well on the commercial side, moving the away fans will in time be something we realise was a great move. The bars etc outside the ground have generated more finance for the club. 

The footballing side has been woeful, but I dont think he is responsible for that. It was Ankerson who had his hands more on the manager and football. Now thnkfully he has moved.

So now we have Spors the footballing side should improve, and so I believe the CEO is doing ok.

[Matthew Le God]

7 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Hes the CEO and has been all over the football operations, which has seen the worst season in the clubs history.......  for a start  

I asked 'what exactly'. An example with evidence.

[Matthew Le God]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Don't we now pay more in interest on the loan, despite refinancing for more 'favourable' terms?

You've made the claim, not me. 

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

I asked 'what exactly'. An example with evidence.

Football.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

You've made the claim, not me. 

It's not a 'claim', Matthew, it's a question.

[Smirking_Saint]

On 13/05/2025 at 17:53, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

Well.. for one its been stated he was the point of contact for transfer negotiations and its been heavily hinted that his obstructive nature was a big reason why we missed out on some of our bigger targets, for instance, Liam Delap

Now.. he’s done ok commercially so I wouldn’t necessarily want to see him gone, but I would have no issues seeing Bitcon (director if football operations) depart

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Well.. for one its been stated he was the point of contact for transfer negotiations and its been heavily hinted that his obstructive nature was a big reason why we missed out on some of our bigger targets, for instance, Liam Delap

Now.. he’s done ok commercially so I wouldn’t necessarily want to see him gone, but I would have no issues seeing Bitcon (director if football operations) depart

Do we actually need Bitcon anyway? Spors can’t be there everyday but surely the club can find some extra pairs of eyes for him?

Edited Wednesday at 18:58 by Gloucester Saint

[Matthew Le God]

47 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

It's not a 'claim', Matthew, it's a question.

The sentence "Don't we now pay more in interest on the loan, despite refinancing for more favourable terms?" is phrased as a question, but it functions as a claim because it implies a specific assertion: that you are paying more in interest now, even though you refinanced under supposedly better conditions.

This kind of rhetorical question carries an assumption or point of view, making it a claim disguised as a question.

[wild-saint]

On 13/05/2025 at 17:53, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

Led the club to relegation and abject failure.

[Matthew Le God]

35 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Do we actually need Bitcon anyway? Spors can’t be there everyday but surely the club can find some extra pairs of eyes for him?

They recently hired an assistant sporting director to support Spors. But sporting director is not Bitcon's job.

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, wild-saint said:

Led the club to relegation and abject failure.

I asked for exact. What in his job remit warrants his sacking?

[Convict Colony]

On 13/05/2025 at 6:50 PM, SaintsLoyal said:

Hes equally responsible for the shambles of this season and if two managers get booted, then he should as well.

Hes totally out of his depth and made a rod for his own back in many ways in such a short space of time.

 

 

Listen i get you are the 2nd in command but these threads have to stop.

Earn your promotion.

[Weston Super Saint]

10 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

The sentence "Don't we now pay more in interest on the loan, despite refinancing for more favourable terms?" is phrased as a question, but it functions as a claim because it implies a specific assertion: that you are paying more in interest now, even though you refinanced under supposedly better conditions.

This kind of rhetorical question carries an assumption or point of view, making it a claim disguised as a question.

It was a question, with a question mark, Matthew.

Since you seemingly agree - referring to it as a 'rhetorical question' - can you show evidence of your workings?

[Weston Super Saint]

10 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

I asked for exact. What in his job remit warrants his sacking?

Can you please provide a full, complete and exact copy of his employmnet contract as well as all assumed responsibilities within the club to show that the previous assertion is not correct?

Otherwise, can you accept that as 'CEO' the buck literally stops with him?

[tdmickey3]

11 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

The sentence "Don't we now pay more in interest on the loan, despite refinancing for more favourable terms?" is phrased as a question, but it functions as a claim because it implies a specific assertion: that you are paying more in interest now, even though you refinanced under supposedly better conditions.

This kind of rhetorical question carries an assumption or point of view, making it a claim disguised as a question.

Is that mirror still arguing with you ?

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Can you please provide a full, complete and exact copy of his employmnet contract as well as all assumed responsibilities within the club to show that the previous assertion is not correct?

Otherwise, can you accept that as 'CEO' the buck literally stops with him?

It appears MLG doesn’t understand what CEO does. 

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, Turkish said:

It appears MLG doesn’t understand what CEO does. 

But he's happy to make 'assumptions' that one training ground is 'better' than another 'because he's seen some plans'.

Tragically simple, generally 'wrong'.

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

But he's happy to make 'assumptions' that one training ground is 'better' than another 'because he's seen some plans'.

Tragically simple, generally 'wrong'.

Choosing to hide behind the nuances of the offence between a question and a claim to cover his lack of understanding. Embarrassing really 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Choosing to hide behind the nuances of the offence between a question and a claim to cover his lack of understanding. Embarrassing really 

And hasn't answered the question - a crime he often accuses others of.

[Smirking_Saint]

14 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Well.. for one its been stated he was the point of contact for transfer negotiations and its been heavily hinted that his obstructive nature was a big reason why we missed out on some of our bigger targets, for instance, Liam Delap

Now.. he’s done ok commercially so I wouldn’t necessarily want to see him gone, but I would have no issues seeing Bitcon (director if football operations) depart

For some reason my reply didn’t send yesterday…

Basically Bitcon is now the sort of, performance side director, so sports sciences, medicine side, analytics overview etc, allowing Spoors to develop the side you’d expect from a DoF

He DID step closer into a DoF role, alongside Parsons when Wilcox left, with Rasmus acting as a sort of strategic overview… Rasmus’ role was already watered down once Wilcox joined, and he now spearheads overall multiclub strategy (alongside bitcon) and also is president of Goztepe… I believe he also stepped into the void left when Wilcox went, and has again stepped out of it

No idea who made the overall decision to not replace Wilcox, but it was a poor one

[Saint Fan CaM]

Apologies - just catching up. Has he gone yet?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 hours ago, Turkish said:

It appears MLG doesn’t understand what CEO does. 

A sequel to him not understanding Director of Football a while back.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I am going to get a bit of grief from this post but here goes anyway.

I have met PP twice. Once a year ago and once about two months ago at Staplewood. The meeting was convened after I asked the club to support and possibly finance the new history myself, Gary Chalk and Keith Fray are putting together. Prior to the meeting I was told that PP had read some of my critical tweets based on what was happening at the club and also wanted to discuss them with me so I went with a little trepidation. 

I can only speak as I find. I was at Staplewood all morning and shown around all its nooks and crannies. I hadn't been since the days of David Jones so it was obviously an eye opener. I also was introduced to RA who was intently watching the training that was going on under Juric. I found him friendly, approachable and interested in the book. 

Throughout the "tour" PP came across as very enthusiastic and keen to promote and grow the club. He told me a lot about the off field plans which are certainly ambitious (stadium expansion and buying up land). He had noted all the criticism I had levelled and took time to explain each instance whether it was the transfer of Amo-Ameyaw or the feasible apppointment of Rohl. Nothing was off limits. He was very candid and admitted mistakes had been made but emphasised the strong desire to put things right that emanated from DS right the way down.

I did tell him that if every fan was lucky enough to be granted what he had taken the time to give me, there would be a lot more readiness to accept that SR were still capable of being a positive ownership for the club. A lot of the angst is around communication (or lack off) which I think he accepted. I was also impressed how he seemed to know virtually every person on the campus and had time for everyone we encountered, even injured youth players who he made sure he chatted to and asked how they were getting on etc. He has relocated into the area with his wife and young family and from what I saw that morning is very committed to the task in hand. Yes he lacks a "background" in football (although I do believe he was on the books of Woking as a youth player when Glen Cockerill was their manager) but he is very hands on and knows how to generate the commercial aspect of the club which is so vital. I came away reassured that everyone's heart was still in it and because of the disaster of this season very very keen to put it right. They know they "owe" the fanbase and for that reason I want to give them time to put things right starting with the appointment of the right manager.

What's happened has happened. As long as mistakes has been learned the ownership of SR can still be a good thing for Southampton FC especially in the light that the next owner could turn out to be a darn sight worse. I know I could be accused of selling my soul to the Devil so as to get the book published but I would like to point out the club and we have agreed that all profit from this book will go to the Saints Foundation so I have no real vested interest in promotion PP or SR. I've not been asked to post this message, I've not been told to be more positive about the club but I feel seeing I have been privileged to have met "the horse's mouth" as it were then some on this forum might see my post as being relevant to the debate.

PS. The book is going to be an update and amalgamation of every publication that's gone before. The last publication that covered the whole of the club's history (going back to 1885) was published nearly 40 years ago (The Complete Record) so there's a lot to update and correct. Its going to be a huge piece of work (to say the least) and almost certainly the last any of us from Hagiology will be involved in. I have been working on it for nearly 2 years and have just reached 1977-78 so that will give you some idea of time scales. Hoping for a 2027 publishing.

[ErwinK1961]

4 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I am going to get a bit of grief from this post but here goes anyway.

I have met PP twice. Once a year ago and once about two months ago at Staplewood. The meeting was convened after I asked the club to support and possibly finance the new history myself, Gary Chalk and Keith Fray are putting together. Prior to the meeting I was told that PP had read some of my critical tweets based on what was happening at the club and also wanted to discuss them with me so I went with a little trepidation. 

I can only speak as I find. I was at Staplewood all morning and shown around all its nooks and crannies. I hadn't been since the days of David Jones so it was obviously an eye opener. I also was introduced to RA who was intently watching the training that was going on under Juric. I found him friendly, approachable and interested in the book. 

Throughout the "tour" PP came across as very enthusiastic and keen to promote and grow the club. He told me a lot about the off field plans which are certainly ambitious (stadium expansion and buying up land). He had noted all the criticism I had levelled and took time to explain each instance whether it was the transfer of Amo-Ameyaw or the feasible apppointment of Rohl. Nothing was off limits. He was very candid and admitted mistakes had been made but emphasised the strong desire to put things right that emanated from DS right the way down.

I did tell him that if every fan was lucky enough to be granted what he had taken the time to give me, there would be a lot more readiness to accept that SR were still capable of being a positive ownership for the club. A lot of the angst is around communication (or lack off) which I think he accepted. I was also impressed how he seemed to know virtually every person on the campus and had time for everyone we encountered, even injured youth players who he made sure he chatted to and asked how they were getting on etc. He has relocated into the area with his wife and young family and from what I saw that morning is very committed to the task in hand. Yes he lacks a "background" in football (although I do believe he was on the books of Woking as a youth player when Glen Cockerill was their manager) but he is very hands on and knows how to generate the commercial aspect of the club which is so vital. I came away reassured that everyone's heart was still in it and because of the disaster of this season very very keen to put it right. They know they "owe" the fanbase and for that reason I want to give them time to put things right starting with the appointment of the right manager.

What's happened has happened. As long as mistakes has been learned the ownership of SR can still be a good thing for Southampton FC especially in the light that the next owner could turn out to be a darn sight worse. I know I could be accused of selling my soul to the Devil so as to get the book published but I would like to point out the club and we have agreed that all profit from this book will go to the Saints Foundation so I have no real vested interest in promotion PP or SR. I've not been asked to post this message, I've not been told to be more positive about the club but I feel seeing I have been privileged to have met "the horse's mouth" as it were then some on this forum might see my post as being relevant to the debate.

PS. The book is going to be an update and amalgamation of every publication that's gone before. The last publication that covered the whole of the club's history (going back to 1885) was published nearly 40 years ago (The Complete Record) so there's a lot to update and correct. Its going to be a huge piece of work (to say the least) and almost certainly the last any of us from Hagiology will be involved in. I have been working on it for nearly 2 years and have just reached 1977-78 so that will give you some idea of time scales. Hoping for a 2027 publishing.

Thanks for taking the time to post this FF. 

[Charlie Wayman]

On 13/05/2025 at 17:50, SaintsLoyal said:

Hes equally responsible for the shambles of this season and if two managers get booted, then he should as well.

Hes totally out of his depth and made a rod for his own back in many ways in such a short space of time.

 

 

I hate to say "I told you so" but "I told you so"!

[Charlie Wayman]

On 13/05/2025 at 17:53, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly has he personally done that warrants being sacked?

Are you being serious?

[Charlie Wayman]

On 15/05/2025 at 08:40, Turkish said:

It appears MLG doesn’t understand what CEO does. 

Chief Entertainment Organiser

 

for that alone he should be fired

[Matthew Le God]

25 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Are you being serious?

Yes, can you name something? Because we do not know his exact job remit and some at Sport Republic may be responsible fot some of the things he is being blamed for.

[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Yes, can you name something? Because we do not know his exact job remit and some at Sport Republic may be responsible fot some of the things he is being blamed for.

Another fail. He is the CEO. Most normal people understand the role that a CEO does and are aware of his job remit. It's literally just you that is struggling.

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Another fail. He is the CEO. Most normal people understand the role that a CEO does and are aware of his job remit. It's literally just you that is struggling.

Not every CEO has the same duties.

[lambtiss]

31 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Not every CEO has the same duties.

Thanks,that is illuminating 

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

Thanks,that is illuminating 

Well... it is key to the discussion. Calling for someone to be sacked, when he might not be responsible for the things he is being accused of is irrational. 

[Weston Super Saint]

48 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Not every CEO has the same duties.

Jesus wept.

[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Well... it is key to the discussion. Calling for someone to be sacked, when he might not be responsible for the things he is being accused of is irrational. 

Jesus wept.

He is the CEO Matthew. Try and think of ALL the things he's responsible for. Give it your best, we're all rooting for you.