Saints 2-1 Wrexham - Match Thread

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I hope we get a replay of their goal, I'm still convinced Moore was offside.

Sky/Wrexham love in didn't fancy showing it during the game

I thought that straight away 

[AlexLaw76]

Fernandes has to come on, as well as Downs & Archer

[OttawaSaint]

1 minute ago, St. Ciervo said:

AA squanders chance after chance again. Average saintweb poster puts at least one of those in. 

Bagged two goals in my over-50 match last night! 😆 (we lost though).

[Midfield_General]

2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I hope we get a replay of their goal, I'm still convinced Moore was offside.

Sky/Wrexham love in didn't fancy showing it during the game

I thought exactly the same. It was definitely close. But not a single mention of it or a single replay to have a look. 

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

And leave Edwards and Quarshie as a pair? No thanks. Stephens may be incredibly limited, but he's not our worst CB on the pitch today.

Only because he's hiding in the middle while their forwards run the channels. They should have got a second from a free kick where Stephens stopped and let his man run to head over the bar.

[SWLondon Saint]

No idea what Edwards was doing for the pen. Downes seems a bit off it, probably worth bringing Matty on for him if we can to avoid possible red. Armstrong done very little, has to be Downs or Archer on instead.

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

And leave Edwards and Quarshie as a pair? No thanks. Stephens may be incredibly limited, but he's not our worst CB on the pitch today.

But he is doing nothing at all and not helping them, he is supposed to be the leader

[Sarnia Cherie]

2 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

But his leadership and King Spors said he was great!

I don't know what they see in Stephens. RM shoehorned him in every chance he got. He had a crappy pre-season but here we are again with him. 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I hope we get a replay of their goal, I'm still convinced Moore was offside.

Sky/Wrexham love in didn't fancy showing it during the game

Just showed it, He wasn’t offside perfectly timed run but the slowness of our defenders was very concerning 

[SWLondon Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

I thought that straight away 

Yep, looked off to me and I think everyone in the bloody ground. Edit - Well, fair enough then after replay. Defenders sleeping.

Edited Saturday at 12:26 by SWLondon Saint

[AlexLaw76]

Ref should have sent Edwards off

[Turkish]

Just now, Sarnia Cherie said:

I don't know what they see in Stephens. RM shoehorned him in every chance he got. He had a crappy pre-season but here we are again with him. 

He’s fucking shit everyone knows it

[Saint NL]

Sky are desperate for Edwards to get a red card. 

[obelisk]

Sky not showing us whether or not Moore was offside so we have to assume he was.

[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I thought that straight away 

Doesn’t fit the narrative 

[Saint86]

We should be winning frankly. But has the feeling of one of those games where its not going to happen.

Edwards having a tough experience Vs Moore, he simply can't handle him. Why oh why we haven't put quarshie against their big man I don't know?!?!

Stephens apparently offering no leadership at the back - he's been about enough to know how to handle this level of football FFS.

Wellington, jayrob, Downes, Charles, Fraser have all played well. Baz done well so far for me, unlucky with the pen as well.

Suga and Armstrong alright.

Let down by our inability to defend Vs Moore.

Edited Saturday at 12:27 by Saint86

[Saint Scott]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Just showed it, He wasn’t offside perfectly timed run but the slowness of our defenders was very concerning 

Yeah, on second viewing looked a good run

[ant]

Transferred my ticket to my (soon to be) father-in-law for this one.

Can't wait to see what our wedding gift will be. 🤦‍♂️

[saintant]

33 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

It wasn't a shove. He put his hands up because Moore slowed down and he was about to run into him, then Moore threw himself down as he has done all game. 

Now the commentator saying it should be a red card as well fuck me 😂

Exactly as I saw it. Moore knew he wasn't getting there so cleverly slowed down so that Edwards ran into the back of him. It was a con.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Saint NL said:

Sky are desperate for Edwards to get a red card. 

They are just quoting the laws of the game

[Turkish]

Just now, obelisk said:

Sky not showing us whether or not Moore was offside so we have to assume he was.

It showed the penalty again and his run was very good not offside 

[Sheaf Saint]

Still no analysis of whether or not Moore was offside then.

[Midfield_General]

How many games have our new coaching team watched if they think Armstrong can play CF?

And why are we compounding that by hitting high balls to hi, when he's up against 3 centre halves who are about a foot taller than him. 

Absolute madness tactically. Schoolboy level. 

Until we change that and introduce some sort of physical presence at CF who can hold the ball up or win a header, we're losing this game. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

Still no analysis of whether or not Moore was offside then.

He was onside

[kitch]

Bloody awful. Armstrong playing in the anonymous role again, no proper strikers on the pitch.

Went into it strolling around thinking our quality will see us through. Wrexham rolled up their sleeves and we've got nothing in response. Too lightweight, too empty in midfield (Charles has been alright though) and no target at the front.

Fraser's doing alright, Robinson slowly coming to life, Wellington putting in a shift but that was atrocious. Reminds me of last season, where we're slowly trying to play in a certain sequence and then every time the other team try to stop us, we all have to stop and start all over again. It's bollocks. We just need to WIN!

 

Send AA home early. 

[Turkish]

Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

Still no analysis of whether or not Moore was offside then.

He wasn’t. Why do you need it analysing?

[sockeye]

Referee is dreadful

[V.Johnathan.Wilson]

Pause spammed the replay of the through ball that lead to the Penalty, Stephens played him on. 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Edwards has had a mare.

We improved a bit towards the end, but feels like we are cursed not to score today

No curses, shit choices and not getting players in the box to attack the ball. Fraser put a great early one in and only AA there and he was still in his heels. Can’t agree with those lauding Robinson, far too easily to ground and lightweight. 

Downs on HT, perhaps Archer as well with him. Go to a back 4, three CBs can’t handle Moore. Wood on for the wretched Edwards who may have made his one and only senior appearance at SMS, he’s been that bad. QPR might want him. 

[Chez]

1 minute ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

I don't know what they see in Stephens. RM shoehorned him in every chance he got. He had a crappy pre-season but here we are again with him. 

Slow centre back that doesn't dominate on the air. Edwards is similar. 

[Danwulfe]

[Midfield_General]

2 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Sky are desperate for Edwards to get a red card. 

He seems fairly keen himself to be fair

[Turkish]

Just now, Chez said:

Slow centre back that doesn't dominate on the air. Edwards is similar. 

What does he offer?

[Greenridge]

Sitting here at the game. Midfield is non-existent. Sugawara did he touch the ball? Nothing up front. Against the grain, I’d say the defenders aren’t horrendous although Edwards is Mr Panic. Quarshie looks potential. Robinson reminds me of Anderson. Needs support. 

[Baird of the land]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

Exactly as I saw it. Moore knew he wasn't getting there so cleverly slowed down so that Edwards ran into the back of him. It was a con.

Even if Moore played for it, Edwards was brainless for running into him. Amazing how atrocious he has been, given all the hype.

[qwertyell]

Absolutely nothing up front, no quality going forwards, the defence a complete shambles, our best player a teenage academy lad. 

Pretty sure that's a cut and paste from last season.

Brave new world, eh?

[Turkish]

Just now, Danwulfe said:

Yet despite that we could be 3-0 or 3-1 down 

stats mean fuck all 

[obelisk]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

It showed the penalty again and his run was very good not offside 

Must have missed that when I blinked.

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Sky are desperate for Edwards to get a red card. 

Saints fans are desperate for him to be subbed. 

[OttawaSaint]

2 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

I’d like to hear his explanation, it’s bizarre. 

It's maddening, when we have a 6ft5 striker we play to feet or lead balls, tiny striker we pump it. Fast wingers, lets play narrow. Need goals, take off creative player, add a defender. Need to mix things up? Sub like for like. Go on about needing a top striker, don't buy one. Just keep signing fullbacks.

Practice with a formation, ditch it for the matches.

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Greenridge said:

Sitting here at the game. Midfield is non-existent. Sugawara did he touch the ball? Nothing up front. Against the grain, I’d say the defenders aren’t horrendous although Edwards is Mr Panic. Quarshie looks potential. Robinson reminds me of Anderson. Needs support. 

You sure you're at the game? Sugawara has probably had the most touches outside of Downes and Charles.

[kitch]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

No curses, shit choices and not getting players in the box to attack the ball. Fraser put a great early one in and only AA there and he was still in his heels. Can’t agree with those lauding Robinson, far too easily to ground and lightweight. 

Downs on HT, perhaps Archer as well with him. Go to a back 4, three CBs can’t handle Moore. Wood on for the wretched Edwards who may have made his one and only senior appearance at SMS, he’s been that bad. QPR might want him. 

Edwards looked decent in the Brighton friendly, I think he's just having a very bad day. Can't help playing next to Stephens.

Armstrong, on the other hand, is consistently shite. Gets a pass because he's good at stat-padding.

[Saint Scott]

I'd like to see Fernandes and Downs on at HT for Suga and Arma, revert to 4-2-3-1

Baz

Edwards Stephens Quarshie Wellington

Downes Charles

Fraser Fernandes Robinson

Downs

 

[stevematthews635]

Wow, just wow.

People blaming Stephen's for Edward's mistake (when Stephens had the player covered), bazunu for not saving the penalty.

Awful squad still and a terrible side put out by the manager.

Armstrong and Fraser up top (wtf).  It says something when by and far away our best player is a nipper (Robinson).  And another nipper that did really well (Sesay) does not even make the bench.

Downes and Charles have not been good either.

Terrible start to the season.

[Turkish]

Just now, obelisk said:

Must have missed that when I blinked.

You must have. It shows the penalty from when we have the ball away deep inside their half, shows the through ball, Moore’s perfectly timed run and him unbelievably outpacing all our defenders

Any analysis would have just made it look even worse defending TBH

[die Mannyschaft]

Bloody hell RM is back. Too soft a team, slow, boring passing. We need a tall forward who can shoot first time. Wrexham tacking the pics. Embarrassing

[Midfield_General]

4 minutes ago, saintant said:

Exactly as I saw it. Moore knew he wasn't getting there so cleverly slowed down so that Edwards ran into the back of him. It was a con.

lol no it wasn't. Edwards literally ran up behind him and pushed him squarely in the back with both hands. It was a brainless thing to do and the most clear penalty you will ever see. 

[OttawaSaint]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He’s fucking shit everyone knows it

Except those for who it matters most.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

You sure you're at the game? Sugawara has probably had the most touches outside of Downes and Charles.

Sadly, one of them led to the penalty.

[Saint_clark]

Just now, stevematthews635 said:

People blaming Stephen's for Edward's mistake (when Stephens had the player covered), bazunu for not saving the penalty.

 

 

Who? At the game? All I've seen on here is people ripping into Edwards.