New Manager Debate

[OneMrsWallace]

14 hours ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

I remember you from years ago. You used to produce the most interminably dull posts with little insight.. I was just holding some vain hope that you might have finally added something intelligent to this forum. But niet. 

[Dr Who?]

If Brendan has been interviewed and he wanted the job, we would have offered it to him by now. Do you really think he is going to wait around for us? 

[sockeye]

14 hours ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

Incompetence is being assumed because of the last 4 years.

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

If Brendan has been interviewed and he wanted the job, we would have offered it to him by now. Do you really think he is going to wait around for us? 

As someone said (Duckhunter i think) If Rodgers is being interviewed, hes interviewing us not the other way round, maybe we are waiting on him? Although with the way this club is run i wouldn't be at all surprised if they went for another out of the box, data approach rather than a proven, quality manager

[AlexLaw76]

14 hours ago, manji said:

You are assuming “incompetence ” based on some random rumour. Sums up this cretinous forum again I was early adoptor when your average moron wasn’t even sure what the internet was. Yes I’m not sure why I bother there are far more intelligent forums on other platforms I just hold some vain hope I will find an interesting news item on here. But niet. 

Given the damage Sports Republic have done, I suggest you have a hard think.

[SaintLondon]

I have been told by a friend who works for the club that we shouldn't expect any news on this any time soon. 

I'm now convinced that they wanted GON but us pesky fans got in the way of another SR masterclass. 

[tdmickey3]

Just now, SaintLondon said:

I have been told by a friend who works for the club that we shouldn't expect any news on this any time soon. 

I'm now convinced that they wanted GON but us pesky fans got in the way of another SR masterclass. 

Sounds plausible with these clowns

[Miltonaggro]

5 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

I have been told by a friend who works for the club that we shouldn't expect any news on this any time soon. 

I'm now convinced that they wanted GON but us pesky fans got in the way of another SR masterclass. 

Very plausible. Perhaps Solak should sack his inept overpaid advisors and run a fans consultation on all managerial appointments and transfers over £2m. Sure the PR/IT team could create an app. Would likely save him a fortune and see the club competitive again. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

45 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Source ? 😉

A guess 😂

Manning has predominantly been around the west side of the country.

Rodgers won’t lower himself to the Championship for anyone, I reckon he’ll go to a Prem team depending which one pulls the trigger first.

Norwich like their “edgy” scandi links.

Gary O’Neill and Boro just seems right, because he certainly isn’t good enough for a Premier League team.

Sport Republic, need I say more?

Edited 12 hours ago by Willo of Whiteley

[ally_uk]

It's gonna be Tonda innit.... 

[ChrisPY]

Wonder if the club will try to minimise coverage of a disappointing appointment by announcing it while there’s an England game happening.

[Pilchards]

2 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

It's gonna be Tonda innit.... 

 

2 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

It's gonna be Tonda innit.... 

Probably.

They will be hearing from the players what a wonderful job he’s doing in training and this will no doubt get back to the directors.

I truly believe that GON was going to get the job but the fans response has now given them a rethink.

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, Dr Who? said:

If Brendan has been interviewed and he wanted the job, we would have offered it to him by now. Do you really think he is going to wait around for us? 

Who told you this and why did you believe it?

[BARCELONASAINT]

I cannot believe for 1 minute Brendan Rogers has been interviewed for the managers job. It is completely beneath him, this is a man that managed Liverpool and Celtic and been used to silver wear and European nights. He would not be the slightest bit interested in Championship team at the wrong end of the table.

[skintsaint]

2 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I cannot believe for 1 minute Brendan Rogers has been interviewed for the managers job. It is completely beneath him, this is a man that managed Liverpool and Celtic and been used to silver wear and European nights. He would not be the slightest bit interested in Championship team at the wrong end of the table.

Think Leeds got Bielsa by throwing loads of money at him. We would need to do the same. SR like throwing money away so who knows.

[Turkish]

13 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

 

Probably.

They will be hearing from the players what a wonderful job he’s doing in training and this will no doubt get back to the directors.

I truly believe that GON was going to get the job but the fans response has now given them a rethink.

Yes exactly, the players will be glowing with praise, SR will see 2 wins, Spors obviously loves him. Im pretty sure it'll be him. 

[Appy]

It’s going to end up like Selles isn’t it? 
 

Nathan Jones will be licking his lips at the thought of going against Tonda’s Saints. 

[sockeye]

It'll be Tonda, the club think they can apply the buy/recruit young policy to everything from managers to first-team coaches to goalkeeper, striker, midfielder.

Insanity

[Wade Garrett]

If they appoint Eckert then they should expect more reductions in match attendance.

Who are they trying to fool.

[Appy]

It’ll be Tonda and they’ll try and hide the terrible appointment with loads of Romeu PR videos. 

[John B]

4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

If they appoint Eckert then they should expect more reductions in match attendance.

Who are they trying to fool.

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

[sockeye]

2 minutes ago, Appy said:

It’ll be Tonda and they’ll try and hide the terrible appointment with loads of Romeu PR videos. 

The timing of the Romeu signing makes me feel sick. They could've brought him on in the summer, but decided to use him as a concession to score points with the fans before gambling the managerial appointment yet again.

Gutless owners. 

[AlexLaw76]

6 minutes ago, John B said:

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

Marco Rose

[Katalinic]

Just now, sockeye said:

The timing of the Romeu signing makes me feel sick. They could've brought him on in the summer, but decided to use him as a concession to score points with the fans before gambling the managerial appointment yet again.

Gutless owners. 

The PR machine was in full flow on Saturday with MLT rolled out as well. SR are abysmal, lurching from one self-made crisis to another.

[notnowcato]

7 minutes ago, John B said:

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

Would be grateful if you could tell us who you know that doesn't want to come to St Marys and we can work back from there.

[Appy]

8 minutes ago, John B said:

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

It’s not our job to find adequate replacements, it’s their job to get it right and they never do, we’ve done this cheap internal thing on three occasions this century with Gray, Wigley and Selles, how did they go? 

[John B]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Marco Rose

OK Rose was sacked by the RB Leipzig board on 30 March 2025 after heavily underperforming in the Bundesliga and UEFA Champions League but he a possibility

How do you know he wants to come here 

[Katalinic]

10 minutes ago, John B said:

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

To insinuate that there is nobody available and therefore we should go the unproven route (again) is ludicrous. 

[Katalinic]

Just now, John B said:

OK Rose was sacked by the RB Leipzig board on 30 March 2025 after heavily underperforming in the Bundesliga and UEFA Champions League but he a possibility

How do you know he wants to come here 

How do you know he doesn't? Puerile argument.

 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, John B said:

OK Rose was sacked by the RB Leipzig board on 30 March 2025 after heavily underperforming in the Bundesliga and UEFA Champions League but he a possibility

How do you know he wants to come here 

I don't

How do you know he does not?

[Zorba]

[John B]

4 minutes ago, Appy said:

It’s not our job to find adequate replacements, it’s their job to get it right and they never do, we’ve done this cheap internal thing on three occasions this century with Gray, Wigley and Selles, how did they go? 

I do not think it is as easy as you suggest getting in managers there do not seem to be many available from what I can see

[SaintLondon]

23 minutes ago, John B said:

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

You'd hope the people in the footballing department being paid millions per year can come up with this answer. Don't think chastising someone on here for not knowing the answer to that is all that fair. It's literally not our job but it literally is theirs. 

[Appy]

8 minutes ago, John B said:

I do not think it is as easy as you suggest getting in managers there do not seem to be many available from what I can see

I’m not saying it’s easy, it’s their bloody job which they are paid very well to do so, just because it’s not easy, doesn’t mean give it to a complete rookie. 

[Give it to Ron]

9 minutes ago, John B said:

I do not think it is as easy as you suggest getting in managers there do not seem to be many available from what I can see

According to MLT there were 150 applications so I’m sure there were some in that lot and better than the abysmal lot we have had in last 2 years.

[saintant]

You start to get the distinct feeling that this whole process is going to move at glacial pace. It seems as though the lad's two wins mean SR will give him at least another game so they have more time to dither over appointing someone permanently. Fairly typical of how they operate. Wish we could get rid of them and bring in some football people who know what they are doing. It's been make it up as you go along from these clowns since day one. Thanks for nothing Semmens.

[Wade Garrett]

55 minutes ago, John B said:

So go on tell me who else is available experienced  and wants to come to St Marys

You’re telling me that they can’t find better than a 32 year old that has never managed a first team.

Give your head a wobble.

[St Louis]

22 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

According to MLT there were 150 applications so I’m sure there were some in that lot and better than the abysmal lot we have had in last 2 years.

Exactly this. I know from a previous director that when we have a manager vacancy, we typically have over 100 credible applications. There are 1000's of managers around the globe who would love the job, it would be in the Top 25 jobs in English football and desirable to many (facilities, potential, fanbase, route into English footie... Poch et al)
We seem to think that there are only 3 or 4 managers at the table, because thats all we have from whispers and rumours on here.
We quite probably will end up with Tonda, as thats the type of thing we seem to do (and have for years... Gray, Wigley, Pearson, Selles, etc) but there are definitely options out there and managers/coaches who would love this job.

[tdmickey3]

41 minutes ago, John B said:

I do not think it is as easy as you suggest getting in managers there do not seem to be many available from what I can see

Where can you see this?

[James]

As soon as Tonda beat QPR the odds of him getting the gig went up dramatically. You can just tell Spors and Rasmus are keen to find the next Thomas Frank. If Eckert gets the job then this season is a write off, the quality of opposition for the last two games was absolutely woeful. A sensible appointment could still get us to the playoffs. I just can’t fathom spending so much on transfers in the summer and then go cheap on the manager. It makes no sense.

[Britannia]

6 minutes ago, James said:

As soon as Tonda beat QPR the odds of him getting the gig went up dramatically. You can just tell Spors and Rasmus are keen to find the next Thomas Frank.

What if Keith Andrews is the next Thomas Frank?

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, Britannia said:

What if Keith Andrews is the next Thomas Frank?

What if Tonda is the next  Gray, Wigley, Pearson, Selles ?

[Patches O Houlihan]

1 hour ago, sockeye said:

The timing of the Romeu signing makes me feel sick. They could've brought him on in the summer, but decided to use him as a concession to score points with the fans before gambling the managerial appointment yet again.

Gutless owners. 

Or maybe it was a response to Shea Charles' injury and a recognition that the 'new' team was on average too young and not streetwise enough. He might be a free transfer but he'll be on a good salary and we already have a big squad. Maybe the plan was to bring him in once we'd shifted Aribo & Edozie to keep numbers and the wage bill reasonable.

They are consistently inconsistent at recruitment. We'd all be reasonably happy if they had spent that £7m on a different striker...

[sandwichsaint]

A squeaky score-draw for Tonda

Against a mouthy git from the Rhondda

Three at the back

The usual crap

Will maybe cause SR to ponder.

[Willo of Whiteley]

5 minutes ago, Britannia said:

What if Keith Andrews is the next Thomas Frank?

To be honest that is a good example.

I thought Brentford would plummet this season after losing Toney, Mbuemo and Wissa.
However, they have been excellent under him. So far I’ve been completely wrong. They were my banker for relegation.

 

[DT]

2 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

Or maybe it was a response to Shea Charles' injury and a recognition that the 'new' team was on average too young and not streetwise enough. He might be a free transfer but he'll be on a good salary and we already have a big squad. Maybe the plan was to bring him in once we'd shifted Aribo & Edozie to keep numbers and the wage bill reasonable.

They are consistently inconsistent at recruitment. We'd all be reasonably happy if they had spent that £7m on a different striker...

I actually think the Romeu signing will be transformative, and that SR are kind of banking on him making the difference and plugging the shortfall that Eckhert will doubtless have when he is appointed as the cheapie, Rasmus-twattery option compared to a common sense manager with proven experience. It's like Rasmus et al really don't like appointing someone who knows more about football than they do...

[Saint Fan CaM]

Patrick Vieira favors a possession-based, attacking style of football that emphasizes pressing high up the pitch and playing out from the back. He commonly uses a 4-3-3 formation and encourages his players to express themselves within a structured system. Key aspects of his managerial style include:

• Possession-based play: Vieira's teams prioritize keeping the ball and using it methodically to create chances, a stark contrast to his own direct, dynamic style as a player.
• High Pressing: His teams employ a man-oriented, high press to win the ball back in the opposition's half, with the center-forward leading the press and the touchline used as an "extra defender".
• Attacking Full-backs and Inverted Wingers: Full-backs are important in providing width, while he typically uses inverted wingers, a common modern tactical approach.
• Flexibility and Pragmatism: While he has a clear philosophy, he is also a pragmatist. For example, he has shown a willingness to adapt his approach and has won games with low possession percentages when necessary, or switched to a back-three system at times.
• Man Management: He is known for setting high standards and strict discipline but also values having a personal relationship with his players, aiming to be a "father figure" and fostering a strong team ethic. 

Vieira's philosophy is rooted in his belief that this approach is the ideal way to play football, though results have varied across his spells at New York City FC, OGC Nice, Crystal Palace, and current club Genoa. 
 

Personally I would like to see Vierra get the job with Eckert as his assistant, however SR being SR, I can’t see them having the gonads to get him in (plus as he doesn’t tend to favour 3 at the back, he’s probably not even been considered). He has all the attributes that we’ve been asking for though - whether that would translate into success, who knows?

[Appy]

Just now, Willo of Whiteley said:

To be honest that is a good example.

I thought Brentford would plummet this season after losing Toney, Mbuemo and Wissa.
However, they have been excellent under him. So far I’ve been completely wrong. They were my banker for relegation.

 

It’s not a good example at all, we can’t be compared with Brentford, they are a well run club from top to bottom, we are all over the place, Andrews has come in from working under Frank and slightly tweaking what he left behind, Tonda is coming in after a shitshow of an 18 months. 

[St Louis]

13 minutes ago, DT said:

It's like Rasmus et al really don't like appointing someone who knows more about football than they do...

Statements like this blow my mind... do you genuinely believe this? That our owners would rather appoint inferior managers/coaches, who will then provide worse results (on the pitch and the bank balance) because of their ego's? Wow.

We have so many people on here going on about how we deserve to know exactly what they are doing and who they've interviewed, etc. Even criticising Rasmus for his selection processes, the time its taking him and that he only wants someone who knows less about football than him....FFS!? We dont even know that Rasmus is involved in the process at all (or to what degree) at the moment he probably has his hands full trying to guide Goztepe into Europe, under his chairmanship. FWIW, theyve lost 2 in 12 this season under the new manager that Sport Republic recruited 2 years ago.

Sorry, rant over, it just does my head in how many people on here make so many ridiculous assumptions... how they are selecting potential managers, how many we are choosing from, that SR only want the cheap/crap options really.

I never knew had so many forum members sitting in the boardroom and involved in the process.

Edited 9 hours ago by St Louis

[Willo of Whiteley]

8 minutes ago, Appy said:

It’s not a good example at all, we can’t be compared with Brentford, they are a well run club from top to bottom, we are all over the place, Andrews has come in from working under Frank and slightly tweaking what he left behind, Tonda is coming in after a shitshow of an 18 months. 

It is a good example of promotion from within.

BUT, it only works when the foundations are already built. We aren’t at that stage.

The multiclub model which SR are doing is bollocks. They branched out way too fast. Whatever happened to build your focal club up then branch out after that.