ILLNESS

[Football Special]

I've never known a team have so many cases of sickness, we've had multiple cases in just first few weeks of the season where players have been unavailable due to a "bug" 

My experience in business is when things are good everyone is there and wants to be involved, but when things start going wrong people go missing, something isn't right behind the scenes 

[Willo of Whiteley]

My experience in work is that when a couple of people have a bug or virus, if you work in a close proximity environment others can catch it quickly.

[Football Special]

No it's not normal 

"Downes has previously been forced to miss games with illness, and Ross Stewart pulled out of the squad against Northampton during the warm-up back in August.

Tom Fellows came on against Bristol City on Tuesday evening, despite feeling rough, while Damion Downs did not travel to Ipswich earlier this season due to illness.

Asked why Southampton have suffered with so much illness during this campaign, Still added: "I'd love to give you an answer to that.

"I'd love to have a doctor's degree and understand it, but I'll be honest with you, I don't at all. But it is a recurring theme, and it's something that we need to fix" 

 

 

[Ted Bates Statue]

I think it's a lot easier to fake a muscle injury or the like as opposed to some kind of sickness, so it probably is legit on this occasion.

That said, of them certainly should feel sick after yesterday

[Wade Garrett]

5 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I think it's a lot easier to fake a muscle injury or the like as opposed to some kind of sickness, so it probably is legit on this occasion.

That said, of them certainly should feel sick after yesterday

You can’t fool a scan for a muscle injury , and I was a master at pretending I was ill to get off school.

It’s not really that hard.

[macca155]

Probably COVID or Flu, they are rampant in the country at the moment. Players are often in close proximity so that's no surprise. Any form of respiratory infection is going to wipe out a pro athlete.

It happens but with such a big squad, it should be easily managed.

Not anticipating this issue, and getting Aribo/Matsuki on the bench ready to cover is poor management imo.

Edited yesterday at 09:14 by macca155

[Dusic]

The two questions for me are:

- When Jander and Robinson were named as illness doubts but were still going to travel were they then separated from the rest of the squad to stop others i.e Flyn  Downes from catching it?

- Given the above why the hell were Aribo/Matsuki not asked to travel up with the squad to provide cover? Additionally, given their lack of football why wasnt one or both down to play for the U21s anyway?

To end up in a crucial game with a player who is miles away from the first team squad coming on after being sat in a taxi for 2 hours prior to kick off is just awful planning.

[Baird of the land]

3 minutes ago, Dusic said:

The two questions for me are:

- When Jander and Robinson were named as illness doubts but were still going to travel were they then separated from the rest of the squad to stop others i.e Flyn  Downes from catching it?

Will still clearly never chooses the send the player home option in football manager when illness strikes

Edited yesterday at 09:22 by Baird of the land

[Give it to Ron]

4 minutes ago, Dusic said:

The two questions for me are:

- When Jander and Robinson were named as illness doubts but were still going to travel were they then separated from the rest of the squad to stop others i.e Flyn  Downes from catching it?

- Given the above why the hell were Aribo/Matsuki not asked to travel up with the squad to provide cover? Additionally, given their lack of football why wasnt one or both down to play for the U21s anyway?

To end up in a crucial game with a player who is miles away from the first team squad coming on after being sat in a taxi for 2 hours prior to kick off is just awful planning.

Or Sesay who played pre season and did pretty well yet nowhere near squad and we take Bragg

[Football Special]

3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Or Sesay who played pre season and did pretty well yet nowhere near squad and we take Bragg

Sesay was also in Leicester and actually scored for u21s , could have shared the cab!

Aribo still one of our highest paid players 

None of it makes any sense

 

Edited yesterday at 09:27 by Football Special

[Dusic]

5 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Will still clearly never chooses the send the player home option in football manager when illness strikes

To be fair, I don't think its him making decisions like that.

[die Mannyschaft]

Could br saving getting injured before transfer window in Jan. Lots of player need to avoid playing if agents calling. 

[S-Clarke]

On this note, at what point can we just sack off Downes? If I had as many sick days as he did in my job, I'd have been out of the door last week.

The guy is a big, big, big part of the toxic rot in this club.

[Football Special]

29 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

On this note, at what point can we just sack off Downes? If I had as many sick days as he did in my job, I'd have been out of the door last week.

The guy is a big, big, big part of the toxic rot in this club.

Yeah there's definitely more to it with him than just feeling a bit poorly, since he tried to force a move to Ipswich he's hardly played. 

Lack of leadership and authority within the club leaves us with high earning players never actually playing, I know Aribo isn't illness but that also requires some explanation,  I believe he's still one of our highest paid 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Dusic said:

To be fair, I don't think its him making decisions like that.

Which is another damning verdict on SR - no way an experienced manager like Cooper would have tolerated that interference. Let alone the likes of Warnock 10-15 years ago. First team managers are meant to be first team managers.

Added to the cryptic comments on Solent post-match (didn’t hear it but others did) about Spors complaining of regular interference in his role and obvious who it is despite having ‘stepped back’.

[RedArmy]

You could have put money on Downes pulling out of that game with “sickness” 

 

Pathetic little cunt. 

[Saint NL]

All together now "Oh wah ah ah ah"

 

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

On this note, at what point can we just sack off Downes? If I had as many sick days as he did in my job, I'd have been out of the door last week.

The guy is a big, big, big part of the toxic rot in this club.

Agreed. I’ve said before that if he or Stewart were with me they’d be on a fitness to work plan, to determine whether this job is for them.

[trousers]

47 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

the cryptic comments on Solent post-match (didn’t hear it but others did) about Spors complaining of regular interference in his role

I completely missed that... Got a full transcript? Cheers. 

Edited yesterday at 11:19 by trousers

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

On this note, at what point can we just sack off Downes? If I had as many sick days as he did in my job, I'd have been out of the door last week.

The guy is a big, big, big part of the toxic rot in this club.

That would depend on whether or not he has some sort of underlying health issue, which we the public don’t now about.

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

I completely missed that... Got a full transcript? Cheers. 

Ignore that... Just found the source on another thread 👍🏻

[Wade Garrett]

I think the illnesses are about as believable as Stephens ankle injury after he went to the board.

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, macca155 said:

Probably COVID or Flu, they are rampant in the country at the moment. Players are often in close proximity so that's no surprise. Any form of respiratory infection is going to wipe out a pro athlete.

I haven’t seen many other teams having so much lately, perhaps it’s Southampton flu. 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, trousers said:

I completely missed that... Got a full transcript? Cheers. 

I picked it up from the match day thread I think it was, a couple of people posted it who had listened to Going Home with Adam & Jo. Like you I’m out of Solent area. Closest I could pick it up when I lived in Devon was on the hills above Lyme Regis.

[Saint86]

4 hours ago, trousers said:

I completely missed that... Got a full transcript? Cheers. 

Do you have a link to it trousers, I've totally missed this. 

Was it still complaining that doors is interfering in his team management? Or is it still /spors complaining that SR are interfering. If the latter then it's damning and very concerning... The mystery 5 at the back explained again via a rasmus connection?

[sledger]

i have been suffering this virus for weeks and can promise you being active has been the last thing on my mind.

[trousers]

5 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

 

the cryptic comments on Solent post-match (didn’t hear it but others did) about Spors complaining of regular interference in his role and obvious who it is despite having ‘stepped back’.

 

4 hours ago, trousers said:

I completely missed that... Got a full transcript? Cheers. 

 

16 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Do you have a link to it trousers, I've totally missed this. 

Was it still complaining that doors is interfering in his team management? Or is it still /spors complaining that SR are interfering. If the latter then it's damning and very concerning... The mystery 5 at the back explained again via a rasmus connection?

It was Adam's hunch that it could be the latter, but Adam was clear that he was reading between the line ls rather than knowing this for sure.

It's 12 mins 30 seconds into this recording: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mbv33t

I'll transcribe it in a sec...

[trousers]

10 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

It was Adam's hunch that it could be the latter, but Adam was clear that he was reading between the line ls rather than knowing this for sure.

It's 12 mins 30 seconds into this recording: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mbv33t

I'll transcribe it in a sec...

Transcription:

Blackmore: "But I do want to say, if Spors is trying to leave for Juventus you have to ask yourself why. And it may be because Saints are in the Championship and he doesn't see them getting out this season, so he wants to be back at the top table. It may be he's not enjoying working at the club, he might feel he's got too many people around him like Ankersen or anyone else, who he might think are stopping him doing his job or interfering with him and making decisions that he's not in charge of and you won't want to be a technical director responsible if you're not making all the decisions. So, we don't know those things but I can definitely supposition say that's a possibility based on the past..."

Edited 19 hours ago by trousers

[Saint86]

5 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

It was Adam's hunch that it could be the latter, but Adam was clear that he was reading between the line ls rather than knowing this for sure.

It's 12 mins 30 seconds into this recording: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mbv33t

I'll transcribe it in a sec...

Thanks trousers. Listened to it now. Not clear if Blackmore knows more than he's "suppositioning" there, or not.

It is odd that spors is being linked for an exit already. I think the business we've done has been good generally. Scienza, fellows, azaz, jander are 4 very good signings for this level. We've kept Charles, thb, and downes (which basically all fans wanted us to do pre season, and most said we'd regrettably lose thb at that time), and we've signed jelert, quarshie, and roerslev as cheap deals.

Downs is the only real disappointment signings wise, that and a lack of a stronger keeper. But seen within the prism of resetting the club and trying to balance the books and landing in the champ, I don't think spors has done much wrong.

[SaintsLoyal]

Talking of Spors and 'interference' look no further than the comprimised call me 'Phil' poundshop Parsons.

 

 

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Thanks trousers. Listened to it now. Not clear if Blackmore knows more than he's "suppositioning" there, or not.

Yeah, difficult to tell, but part of me thinks it's a tad out of character for Blackmore to put his head that far above the parapet with such a detailed 'supposition' when he could've simply said: "I've no idea what's going on with Spors"...

My hunch is that he knows something and is using the 'supposition' language as a bit of a cover... 

Edited 19 hours ago by trousers

[trousers]

3 minutes ago, trousers said:

Yeah, difficult to tell, but part of me thinks it's a tad out of character for Blackmore to put his head that far above the parapet with such a detailed 'supposition' when he could've simply said: "I've no idea what's going on with Spors"...

My hunch is that he knows something and is using the 'supposition' language as a bit of a cover... 

P.s. it's also 'interesting' to me that Blackmore finished off his statement with "...based on the past"... i.e. that the likes of Ankersen have a track record of interfering at squad management level...

Edited 19 hours ago by trousers

[Saint86]

Just now, trousers said:

Yeah, difficult to tell, but part of me thinks it's a tad out of character fir Blackmore to put his head that far above the parapet with such a detailed 'supposition' when he could've simply said: "I've no idea what's going on with Spors"...

My hunch is that he knows something and is using the 'supposition' language as a bit of a cover... 

He's got more and more outspoken recently. Comes across as quite negative towards the running of the club and the way things are going at times (not saying he's not right to do this), but it's hard to know whether he's just generally disgruntled at how shit its going (like the rest of us), or whether he does knows more.

My view of him is also slightly cautioned by watching the games through the club site now, and consequently realising how much rubbish he comes out with at times when he's commentating, and with so much certainty in what he's saying 😂😅

[Saint86]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

P.s. it's also 'interesting' to me that Blackmore finished off his statement with "...based on the past"... i.e. that the likes of Ankersen have a track record of interfering at squad management level...

I agree on that, I think it's fairly well accepted that rasmus was interfering too much previously - or at least there can be no doubt that that kind of spin has officially been put on it since last season's debacle.

[trousers]

14 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Talking of Spors and 'interference' look no further than the comprimised call me 'Phil' poundshop Parsons.

 

 

ITK...?

Examples...?

Ta

Edited 19 hours ago by trousers

[Badger]

6 hours ago, RedArmy said:

You could have put money on Downes pulling out of that game with “sickness” 

 

Pathetic little cunt. 

Do you think his Mum writes to the club asking if he can excused from training as he’s ‘poorly’ ? 
 

Or perhaps that is a thing of the past now, and the little fucker just stands around outside of Tesco to intimidate some grannies instead. 

 

[Fabrice29]

38 minutes ago, trousers said:

Transcription:

Blackmore: "But I do want to say, if Spors is trying to leave for Juventus you have to ask yourself why. And it may be because Saints are in the Championship”

Could and should have stopped here. Or as Will Still put it on Friday ‘big club ain’t it?’.

Radio host in talking absolute waffle to fill silence, shock. Blokes a proper muppet and then plays dumb and defensive when people call him out on it.

[RedArmy]

11 minutes ago, trousers said:

P.s. it's also 'interesting' to me that Blackmore finished off his statement with "...based on the past"... i.e. that the likes of Ankersen have a track record of interfering at squad management level...

He does, I think that’s pretty clear. 
 

Ralph’s last season we started with 3CBs and then he abandoned it after 2 games because it was shit and not the way he wants to set his teams up. We wasted an entire pre season playing a formation that lasted 2 games. 
 

I would put money on the switch to 3CBs at the end of the promotion season came from Rasmus rather than Martin as that’s certainly not his way of setting teams up and he’s not the type to change he carries on playing his way until he’s sacked.  
 

And now we have this season. Still and Spors building a squad to play 4-2-3-1 as we did all pre season and then suddenly changed back to 3CBs amid rumours of interference from Wankersen. 
 

I wonder what formation Goztepe use? Let me check…..oh look 3CBs. 
 

 

 

[Dark Munster]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

I don't think spors has done much wrong.

Apart from Downs as you mention (a total disaster), not bringing in a strong experienced CF, a useless Norwich reject GK instead of a solid experienced one (on loan if necessary) as an upgrade on the crap ones we have, Shoehorn's extension, and the cherry on top of that pile of shit, Will Bloody Stills.

Now I've long suspected that cancer on our club Ankersen has been behind many, if not all, those disastrous decisions, and from reading what @trousers transcribed above it looks like it well be true.

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Downs is the only real disappointment signings wise, that and a lack of a stronger keeper. But seen within the prism of resetting the club and trying to balance the books and landing in the champ, I don't think spors has done much wrong.

Will Still.

Can agree on some of the signings. But Still alone blows that theory apart. 

[SaintsLoyal]

3 hours ago, trousers said:

ITK...?

Examples...?

Ta

Some of its all out in the wild and Mr Woking FC is way too soft to be a club CEO \

 

I mean FFS

  https://www.businessupnorth.co.uk/aibytech-appoints-former-dyson-executive-phil-parsons-as-chairman-and-ceo-to-drive-innovation-in-baby-tech-industry/