Saints 1-2 Hull - Match Thread

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said:

Sideways and backwards everywhere we go, Sideways and backwards everywhere we go, Everywhere we gooooo…

Nearly 24 hours on, the thing that strikes me most about that game is not that people watching were angry, it’s that they were so fucking bored. 
Boring, passionless, predictable, uninspiring football. The last three games I’ve seen - Oxford away, Millwall at home and yesterday’s yawnfest - have all been dreadful.

I don’t just blame Tonda. I blame Guardiola, I blame all the analysts with laptops, I blame x fucking G. I’m paying to be entertained and it’s just really tedious. 
Surely someone in the hierarchy is looking at the manager’s post-match comments and thinking that’s not acceptable, it was dull as fuck. I don’t want hoofball but I don’t want this either. 
It’s not really about the money. It’s about the time I invest in watching this shite and caring about it. Is it the players, is it SR? Dreading the trip to the Tin Shed down the road.

And then after a crap season we have the joy of watching FIFA bending over in front of Trump for a World Cup that no one can afford tickets for. At least the Six Nations is coming up. 

 

All true. Saints have drained the enthusiasm out of many.

The World Cup - don’t give a shit to be honest, although admit that may change if Eng-ger-land make progress in knock out stages. 
 

Six nations - deserves its own thread. But final comment is that money looks like ruining rugby as well, notice the first game on a Thursday evening. Game prostituting itself for television. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

All true. Saints have drained the enthusiasm out of many.

The World Cup - don’t give a shit to be honest, although admit that may change if Eng-ger-land make progress in knock out stages. 
 

Six nations - deserves its own thread. But final comment is that money looks like ruining rugby as well, notice the first game on a Thursday evening. Game prostituting itself for television. 

The France-Ireland game being on a Thursday night - saw that and thought ‘WTF?!’

[sockeye]

2 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

That’s weird - you’ve quoted me there but that’s not my quote, it was from ant I think. 

I quoted your quote ^^

[saintant]

The players will be at home in their plush mansions or out and about in their flash motors, not a care in the world or any thought for the long suffering fans. Along with others I can think of a few of our ex pedigree managers who would have had the lot of them up at Staplewood today and they'd have been metaphorically hung, drawn and quartered. They'd have had the riot act read to them and been told their fortunes before some hard sessions to teach them some harsh realities. It's all too easy these days and the players are allowed to get away with murder. No discipline and zero accountability so it's no wonder they continually coast along doing the bare minimum.

[redstamp]

My brother  treated our 21 year old daughter to a ticket for the  game yesterday. She’s an Aussie but been living in England for the last 5 months with her boyfriend’s family (Pompey supporters!) The last game we took her to at St Mary’s was in 2015 when Saints beat Arsenal 2-0 - her hero is still Pelle! Boyfriend’s family are literally salivating for Sunday!! 

[LaptopSaint]

If/when Frank gets sacked by Spurs, i’d push the boat out and offer him a three-four year project with funds to rebuild, get us promoted, and then (er) survive. On the other hand he has worked with Rasmus before 🤦‍♂️

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said:

If/when Frank gets sacked by Spurs, i’d push the boat out and offer him a three-four year project with funds to rebuild, get us promoted, and then (er) survive. On the other hand he has worked with Rasmus before 🤦‍♂️

There are zero scenarios whereby Frank is an option for us. Lampard isn't even an option for us, nor are the likes of Alex Neil, Wilder, Robins, Ange, Gerrard etc.

As fans we need to realise how far down the pecking order we now are. We are a poor, bottom half Championship team and our only options are coaches happy to get the gig, punts on L1/L2 managers, or an SOS call to the likes of Mowbray. That is where we live now.

Edited yesterday at 13:54 by S-Clarke

[Midfield_General]

15 minutes ago, sockeye said:

I quoted your quote ^^

Aaaah I see - cool 👍

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

There are zero scenarios whereby Frank is an option for us. Lampard isn't even an option for us, nor are the likes of Alex Neil, Wilder, Robins etc.

As fans we need to realise how far down the pecking order we now are. We are a poor, bottom half Championship team and our only options are coaches happy to get the gig, punts on L1/L2 managers, or an SOS call to the likes of Mowbray. That is where we live now.

I’d go for Challinor - organisation, fitness, cut the Martinball out with fines in training. 

[LaptopSaint]

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

There are zero scenarios whereby Frank is an option for us. Lampard isn't even an option for us, nor are the likes of Alex Neil, Wilder, Robins, Ange, Gerrard etc.

As fans we need to realise how far down the pecking order we now are. We are a poor, bottom half Championship team and our only options are coaches happy to get the gig, punts on L1/L2 managers, or an SOS call to the likes of Mowbray. That is where we live now.

Point taken about Frank (probably) but it’s bollocks to say were couldn’t be in the market for people at the Robins/Wilder  level. Even next season we’ll still be one of the richest clubs outside the premier league. It’s just that we’ve chosen to go down the unknown hipster youth route for manager. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 hours ago, davefizzy14 said:

Matsuki deserved to keep their places but nope they both got dropped! 

Matsuki was absolute gash when he came on. Misplaced a simple ball to Manning and got away with a nasty challenge. Not sure why fans think he is any good to be honest. 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Matsuki was absolute gash when he came on. Misplaced a simple ball to Manning and got away with a nasty challenge. Not sure why fans think he is any good to be honest. 

Agreed. I felt that he was trying too hard, was too hyped up. Overhitting passes and mistiming tackles. We need someone with a cool head.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

15 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Agreed. I felt that he was trying too hard, was too hyped up. Overhitting passes and mistiming tackles. We need someone with a cool head.

Just a desperation play, Eckert hoping to stumble on something that works. Guy hasn't been seen for the first part of the season save for a game against Norwich reserves. 

[Bushey Saint]

16 hours ago, warsash saint said:

Have to witness first hand at Fratton Park next Sunday this shower of shite inevitably bottle it or accept i have wasted near £60 & just take the dog out for a long walk instead????

Take the dog out, somewhere outside mobile data coverage, and don't take a radio.  Plenty of time to be miserable in the evening when you hear the result, so at least get some joy out of the weekend. 

It's the road I've chosen: no internet forums, BBC sports website, dodgy streaming sites or radio whenever this shower of shite are playing.  If by some miracle they get a decent result, then it's serendipity, but I most certainly don't hang my whole weekend on the result

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, Bushey Saint said:

Take the dog out, somewhere outside mobile data coverage, and don't take a radio.  Plenty of time to be miserable in the evening when you hear the result, so at least get some joy out of the weekend. 

It's the road I've chosen: no internet forums, BBC sports website, dodgy streaming sites or radio whenever this shower of shite are playing.  If by some miracle they get a decent result, then it's serendipity, but I most certainly don't hang my whole weekend on the result

At least it's Sunday so you can enjoy your Saturday beforehand.

[Bushey Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

At least it's Sunday so you can enjoy your Saturday beforehand.

There is that! 

[VectisSaint]

1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Matsuki was absolute gash when he came on. Misplaced a simple ball to Manning and got away with a nasty challenge. Not sure why fans think he is any good to be honest. 

Manning was probably in the wrong place to be fair.

Edited yesterday at 16:18 by VectisSaint

[SouSaint]

I cannot remember a time where I have actively hated so many of our players. I genuinely wish them nothing but failure when they depart this club, I suspect we will be waiting for contracts to expire though. 

The money spent on that squad is mental compared to other Championship squads. I would guess we are comfortably out in front in terms of transfer fees spent on players. I don't think it is harsh to say that the owners gave us another shite transfer window in the summer either. £20m+ combined on Azaz and Jander is absolutely honking business. 

Next Sunday is going to be worse than 2005. This group of absolute cunts playing for us are not fit to wear the shirt. 

Sport Republic out. 

Johannes Spors out. 

Tonda Eckert out. 

[saintant]

2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

There are zero scenarios whereby Frank is an option for us. Lampard isn't even an option for us, nor are the likes of Alex Neil, Wilder, Robins, Ange, Gerrard etc.

As fans we need to realise how far down the pecking order we now are. We are a poor, bottom half Championship team and our only options are coaches happy to get the gig, punts on L1/L2 managers, or an SOS call to the likes of Mowbray. That is where we live now.

Agree, this club has developed a toxic reputation under SR. Remember Jesse Marsh wanted nothing to do with them after being interviewed.

[saintant]

41 minutes ago, SouSaint said:

I cannot remember a time where I have actively hated so many of our players. I genuinely wish them nothing but failure when they depart this club, I suspect we will be waiting for contracts to expire though. 

The money spent on that squad is mental compared to other Championship squads. I would guess we are comfortably out in front in terms of transfer fees spent on players. I don't think it is harsh to say that the owners gave us another shite transfer window in the summer either. £20m+ combined on Azaz and Jander is absolutely honking business. 

Next Sunday is going to be worse than 2005. This group of absolute cunts playing for us are not fit to wear the shirt. 

Sport Republic out. 

Johannes Spors out. 

Tonda Eckert out. 

2 good players until, like many others, they were subjected to our fitness and coaching methods. Nearly every player who arrives at this club has a decent spell then regresses. It aint coincidence nor is the fact that quite a few who move away improve rapidly.

[Football Special]

38 minutes ago, saintant said:

Agree, this club has developed a toxic reputation under SR. Remember Jesse Marsh wanted nothing to do with them after being interviewed.

Remember when the club claimed they were underwhelmed by candidates after Still's departure and cleared the way for Tonda to be given the job, more likely no one was answering the phone to them, it's not a real football manager position, it's a 'head coach' to implement Sports Republics player trading strategy 

[die Mannyschaft]

57 minutes ago, saintant said:

2 good players until, like many others, they were subjected to our fitness and coaching methods. Nearly every player who arrives at this club has a decent spell then regresses. It aint coincidence nor is the fact that quite a few who move away improve rapidly.

Saints Antiques Road show. Both these players are now valued at £1m each. 

[Morse]

2 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Manning was probably in the wrong place to be fair.

If Manning is on the pitch, he's in the wrong place. 

[saint michael]

If they want stats I think they might get them next Sunday. I think it will be embarrassing if we turn out our normal shit. As everyone is saying it feels like a long way back for the club. I think you could change the manager again but would make little difference because we’ve got a team without any true footballers. Frustrating thing for us is they are killing the love that we have all had for years. The song says saints till we die, they are doing their best to kill it. 

[64saint]

Very good interview after yesterday's game with the link below. Ok, it's 25 minutes long but the guys talk a lot of sense. May be they are on here as posters ??? 🤔

Like the bit where the guy said...being realistic we ain't going to get Gabbi Alonso as manager, but we might get Dave Alonso who managed Millbrook..... Also his recollection of playing for Romsey and the manager chucking teas all over the room at half time and they all ducking and comparing that to the present Saints dressing room. 

Good watch. 👍

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C5HjZECoj/

 

Edited yesterday at 19:46 by 64saint

[Gloucester Saint]

7 hours ago, Bushey Saint said:

Take the dog out, somewhere outside mobile data coverage, and don't take a radio.  Plenty of time to be miserable in the evening when you hear the result, so at least get some joy out of the weekend. 

It's the road I've chosen: no internet forums, BBC sports website, dodgy streaming sites or radio whenever this shower of shite are playing.  If by some miracle they get a decent result, then it's serendipity, but I most certainly don't hang my whole weekend on the result

Agree with all of that, except it just won’t affect me in the slightest when the skates hammer us, because what Pellegrino and Reed started diluting has become full scale agnosticism about Southampton Football Club under SR. I’ll probably laugh when I see the result mid-afternoon 🤭 

Receiving WUM texts from fans of other clubs will be quite boring 🥱 😴 . Rather like SR’s brand of sideways annd backwards that finally killed it off for me.

Owners, management and players who don’t care full stop - and the fanbase is weary and apathetic (not surprisingly). Even in 08/09 there were still some fun moments amongst the turmoil and Lowe’s chaos, but just nothing this season and last. It’s like having an anaesthetic.

Edited 21 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Saint_clark]

17 hours ago, redstamp said:

My brother  treated our 21 year old daughter to a ticket for the  game yesterday. She’s an Aussie but been living in England for the last 5 months with her boyfriend’s family (Pompey supporters!) The last game we took her to at St Mary’s was in 2015 when Saints beat Arsenal 2-0 - her hero is still Pelle! Boyfriend’s family are literally salivating for Sunday!! 

Not the clearest way to start that post...😂

[Osvaldorama]

36 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Not the clearest way to start that post...😂

I think that says more about your mind than it does about his post………

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

I think that says more about your mind than it does about his post………

Alright lads, I read it having just woken up and not being fully with it. It was only meant to be a joke (that's generally what the laughing emoji is for), I'm not actually accusing them of anything. Jesus Christ. 

[Scummer]

Maybe I've missed it, but not seen any talk about the horrendous tackle on Scienza just before half time. The referee didn't even give a free kick at first. Can't even see it mentioned at the time it happened in this thread.

[Chez]

I missed the game on Saturday. How did Peretz fair? I saw a good low save in the highlights and a headed goal that he perhaps could have done better with but wasn't well set as he seem to initially think about coming for the cross. Any further thoughts from anyone?

[tdmickey3]

Where the Fabrice fool with his in depth analysis putting us all right..

Maybe the club have not told him what to say yet

[S-Clarke]

18 minutes ago, Chez said:

I missed the game on Saturday. How did Peretz fair? I saw a good low save in the highlights and a headed goal that he perhaps could have done better with but wasn't well set as he seem to initially think about coming for the cross. Any further thoughts from anyone?

He made a good save in the early part of the game, really good. That's the one you refer to above.

The second goal, the header, I thought he flapped a bit on his line. He started to come out, then retreated, and the ball sort of bobbled over his head. Not a calamitous error by any means, but it wasn't a tidy bit of goalkeeping.

Edited 6 hours ago by S-Clarke

[saintant]

Just watched back the highlights. Can anyone explain why Azaz elected to pass to Jander rather then shoot - it's in the first half after Scienza's downward header. Azaz has the ball at his feet about 2-3 yards from goal, their keeper is face down on the floor and rather than thumping the ball high into the net Azaz passes to Jander and Hull have time to put in a block.  Madness and an example of players not taking responsibiity.

[coalman]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

Just watched back the highlights. Can anyone explain why Azaz elected to pass to Jander rather then shoot - it's in the first half after Scienza's downward header. Azaz has the ball at his feet about 2-3 yards from goal, their keeper is face down on the floor and rather than thumping the ball high into the net Azaz passes to Jander and Hull have time to put in a block.  Madness and an example of players not taking responsibiity.

The keeper was right on top of him so I thought he shifted it sideways to avoid that.

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, coalman said:

The keeper was right on top of him so I thought he shifted it sideways to avoid that.

Also Jander was in the way. Finn will always see a chance to score. Sadly fans dont see what he adds and does create, although I must say he doesnt look happy

[OldNick]

2 hours ago, Chez said:

I missed the game on Saturday. How did Peretz fair? I saw a good low save in the highlights and a headed goal that he perhaps could have done better with but wasn't well set as he seem to initially think about coming for the cross. Any further thoughts from anyone?

I thought his save was superb early on keeping it at 0-0, the back he couldnt do much about and McBurnie found a free Hull player. For the 2nd Flynn and Wood had hold of the scorer but Flynn let him go and Wood was weak. As my wife commented Wood was not at it at all the whole game and Quasie was unlucky t be subbed.

Overall the keeper did ok and hopefully he will make a difference more often than not, not tht Im fully convinced

[OldNick]

On 18/01/2026 at 13:43, saintant said:

The players will be at home in their plush mansions or out and about in their flash motors, not a care in the world or any thought for the long suffering fans. Along with others I can think of a few of our ex pedigree managers who would have had the lot of them up at Staplewood today and they'd have been metaphorically hung, drawn and quartered. They'd have had the riot act read to them and been told their fortunes before some hard sessions to teach them some harsh realities. It's all too easy these days and the players are allowed to get away with murder. No discipline and zero accountability so it's no wonder they continually coast along doing the bare minimum.

I listen to 606 with Sutton and Savage phone in, it seems majority of clubs fans feel the same about their team/players as we do. Seems to me unless the player lives and breathes football they are hard to motivate, afterall you are trying to get multi millionaires to go out and get kicked/hurt and work hard, patently they dont need to after they have had a contact for a few years that makes them wealthy to really not care,

[OldNick]

The other thing is that if we stay down a few seasons we can see what you can build with little money after seeing the likes of Hull etc

[suewhistle]

19 minutes ago, OldNick said:

As my wife commented Wood was not at it at all the whole game and Quasie was unlucky t be subbed.

That was my thought at the time. 

I wish they'd all take a bit of responsibility. Maybe Azaz was right in passing sideways but a swift toe poke is very difficult to set up for at that range. Manning's automatic pass back without looking another example of how not very good he is..

Somebody mentioned how bored the crowd were: the guy next to me missed the goal as he was fiddling about with his snacks, but that was the one time when a quick pass and somebody in a decent position actually anticipating and moving quickly, showed how easy it can be to score if you have some idea of what you are doing and make an effort.  Thank goodness we didn't have DD in attack to show how not to do it. RS does seem to know what he is doing and if only he and his height had been there for the cross that came off Armstrong's head. Please please stay fit!

[saintant]

2 hours ago, coalman said:

The keeper was right on top of him so I thought he shifted it sideways to avoid that.

Has he never heard of getting his foot under the ball? - I believe the technique is fairly common and think it might be known as chipping eg 'chip the keeper' I've seen it done and it can be quite effective.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, OldNick said:

Also Jander was in the way. Finn will always see a chance to score. Sadly fans dont see what he adds and does create, although I must say he doesnt look happy

Maybe you should have a look at the replay from behind the goal. There is a clear opportunity for Azaz to chip the ball just inside the post - it's a very simple chance and Jander was not in the way as you claim. It was probably harder to try a delicate pass to Jander particularly as he should have known this would give the Hull defenders the extra second they used to block his effort. Once again it's just very poor decision making in a crucial moment.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, OldNick said:

I listen to 606 with Sutton and Savage phone in, it seems majority of clubs fans feel the same about their team/players as we do. Seems to me unless the player lives and breathes football they are hard to motivate, afterall you are trying to get multi millionaires to go out and get kicked/hurt and work hard, patently they dont need to after they have had a contact for a few years that makes them wealthy to really not care,

Basically any player on the salaries they get that can be seen to be not arsed to work hard or bottling tackles should be read the riot act and warned to buck up. If they don't they should be quickly bombed out. 

[BarberSaint]

5 hours ago, Chez said:

I missed the game on Saturday. How did Peretz fair? I saw a good low save in the highlights and a headed goal that he perhaps could have done better with but wasn't well set as he seem to initially think about coming for the cross. Any further thoughts from anyone?

Sounds like what I saw.  Think he's better than what we had. Seems very eager. Probably needs to learn quickly to just come out and hammer anyone in his way or, to put it another way, be stronger on crosses.